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Old 05-31-2005   #61
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Didn't he leave H-Town a couple of days ago? If he is back, THAT is a very good sign. I for one didn't think we would be able to get him. Just had a feeling he was stringing us along. So, if we do manage to land him, ya'll can ignore my feelings from here on out. Keep the up dates coming and your fingers and toes crossed.
I believe he was in town around last Wednesday/Thursday, and left at that time. If he is back, as the report suggests, it's because he is coming to sign imo. There may be a few details to work out, but I would bet a dollar to a dougnut hole, that the major parameters are worked out, and I imagine we'll have an annopuncement tomorrow, or Thursday at the latest. Good news!
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Old 05-31-2005   #62
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Didn't he leave H-Town a couple of days ago? If he is back, THAT is a very good sign. I for one didn't think we would be able to get him. Just had a feeling he was stringing us along. So, if we do manage to land him, ya'll can ignore my feelings from here on out. Keep the up dates coming and your fingers and toes crossed.

I to thought that he left town but if Vinny heard him on the radio and said he was in town then I also agree with you that its a good sign.

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I would expect if he is it will be an incentives contract as I believe Vinny said. That would be a win-win situation. It would be nice to be able to see David have a chance to look down field. I still say an O-line is the missing piece to the Texan's puzzle. Just think we would have AJ,LJ and TJ. Kind of interesting when you think about it. If Bennie ever gets well we could add BJ to that mix.
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This is the good news that I have been waiting for. There are mixed opinions about this guy, but one thing I think we can all agree on, is that he will surely add competition to the line, which we all know is never a bad thing, and I feel he is at least somewhat of an upgrade over what we have now.
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I'm not going to lie, I know almost nothing about Shelton. But I have read in several bits and pieces he has athleticism. Put that into our zone blocking scheme, throw in the incentive filled contract if we sign him, and it could be a recipe for a solid young LT for the next several years.
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KPRC-TV reported that the Texans spoke with Shelton's agent (Eric Metz) today, but no progress was made.
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KPRC-TV reported that the Texans spoke with Shelton's agent (Eric Metz) today, but no progress was made.

Vinny you did hear Shelton on the radio and he did say he was in Houston and close to signing, right???? Please update.
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Maybe we should try plugging Matt Stone into the O-line. I don't suppose he could block worth a damn, but he might just freak the defense out to the point where they just didn't want to go near him.
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Pardonez-moi for the green question....

What is holding up the signing, is it money or the fine print? This is a "what do you speculate" answer that I am looking for. Signing finesse is something I haven't paid much attention to.
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What is holding up the signing, is it money or the fine print? This is a "what do you speculate" answer that I am looking for. Signing finesse is something I haven't paid much attention to.
Well, I guess it depends if him and his agent are here in town, as 790 apparently reported. I haven't been able to find another media outlet reporting this. If he isn't here, I jumped the gun. Assuming he is here, I would speculate it's just down to minor stuff, like incentives and such. Just a guess though. If he isn't here, then there could still be a major divide in base money, years, signing bonus, etc.
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Well, I guess it depends if him and his agent are here in town, as 790 apparently reported. I haven't been able to find another media outlet reporting this. If he isn't here, I jumped the gun. Assuming he is here, I would speculate it's just down to minor stuff, like incentives and such. Just a guess though. If he isn't here, then there could still be a major divide in base money, years, signing bonus, etc.
If you listen to McClain it would appear the initial offers were not that high. McClain talked about minimum plus perhaps a little. Vinny was all over me for that, but what can I say. I believe I read that somewhere else also. The Texans are acting like there's something bothering them about Shelton, but may be that's a ploy. He might come here and be great simply because of how he feels and how he fits in and then again he could be a big bust. This is not a clear cut decision. Its not like the Pace situation. It does look like it has some potential, however.
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The Texans are acting like there's something bothering them about Shelton, but may be that's a ploy.
I don't beleive it's a ploy. The guy was released by the Cards for crying out loud. Do you want them to break the bank on a high risk guy who was just cut by his former team? What kind of ploy would the Texans be employing?

By the way, I found an interesting article written today out of Cleveland entitled
Ex-Card Shelton may interest Browns.

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“At this point, L.J. has visited Houston and Chicago,” Shelton’s agent, Vance Larimer, said Tuesday. “We’re contemplating whether to visit elsewhere.

“It’s still kind of preliminary, and we haven’t talked to Cleveland at this point.”

The 6-foot-6, 335-pound giant was thrown into competition for the right-tackle job, and won it. But he missed the last three games with a left-knee injury.

“He’s got a lot left,” Larimer said. “Certainly he played at a high level at left tackle two years ago.”


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If you listen to McClain it would appear the initial offers were not that high. McClain talked about minimum plus perhaps a little. Vinny was all over me for that, but what can I say.
You stated you had 'facts', and I told you to prove facts, otherwise it is speculation. As to the rest of your speculation, odds are the sky isn't falling.
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You stated you had 'facts', and I told you to prove facts, otherwise it is speculation. As to the rest of your speculation, odds are the sky isn't falling.
Have you listened to McClain? Seems like he's quite definite in his statement of the facts. There are written as well as spoken statements of fact - Vinny. I guess you are saying McClain is not telling the truth.
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If Casserly laid out his Shelton offer to McClain you can prove it pretty easy. Everything is speculation until the real facts come out.
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If Casserly laid out his Shelton offer to McClain you can prove it pretty easy. Everything is speculation until the real facts come out.
Again, you have made your statement, but did you listen to John McClain Vinny? Is the source the Texans or Shelton's agent? I don't think it is clear, but it is clear what was probably offered. I think I have offered ample proof of what I have said from a reasonable source. I think he has some inside info on a number of these issues. Is he always right, NO. But you certainly do have to listen to what he says even when we don't like what he says.
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He says "I think they offered the mimimum or a little more". That is speculation. We really don't know what they are discussing. This chicken little stuff just gets old. Justice doesn't know much about football, he should stick to baseball.
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He says "I think they offered the mimimum or a little more". That is speculation. We really don't know what they are discussing. This chicken little stuff just gets old. Justice doesn't know much about football, he should stick to baseball.
Again, Vinny, its not Justice who says how much, its McClain. In any event folks go list to the Justice and McClain show on the Texans offensive line and listen for yourself. Vinny my statements are not made up and correct as stated. Is this the gosspel? No, but I think you mistakenly thought I made up these facts and I did not.
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I heard it Ibar. He is doing what is commonly referred to as 'speculating'....either way its not a big deal. I just want real facts portrayed as real facts for the other fans, and speculation portrayed as speculation.
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Again, Vinny, its not Justice who says how much, its McClain. In any event folks go list to the Justice and McClain show on the Texans offensive line and listen for yourself. Vinny my statements are not made up and correct as stated. Is this the gosspel? No, but I think you mistakenly thought I made up these facts and I did not.
Ibar, if it's "speculation" than it is not "fact"- that's the point. Vinny wasn't calling you a liar. He was saying that you were misrepresenting conjecture as something much more than that.

The fact that McClain commented that he thinks the Texans probably made a contract offer of a certain amount is not evidence that it did happen and happened the way he says. It's just an hypothesis of his that will or will not be proven over time. So, it would be premature to react to this conjecture as if it is what happened.
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