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Old 09-10-2012   #101
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That's what I'm saying. We won't pay his salary, but we'll take a hit for three years of remaining prorated bonus... $4.3 (2014) + $4.3 (2015) + $4.3 (2016) = $12.9M

If he plays, his salary plus $4.3 = $14.something Million
His prorated bonus is $3.5 Million/year ($17.5 Million/5 years) starting in 2012.
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I love it. Dude just signed an extension and folks are figuring when to cut him and how much it will cost.
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I love it. Dude just signed an extension and folks are figuring when to cut him and how much it will cost.
.... not exactly, just trying to figure out how "good" the contract is, how comitted we are. But at 4 years, looks like we're in for the duration.
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That's what I'm saying. We won't pay his salary, but we'll take a hit for three years of remaining prorated bonus... $4.3 (2014) + $4.3 (2015) + $4.3 (2016) = $12.9M

If he plays, his salary plus $4.3 = $14.something Million
Yeah I got it now. We are on same page. I think he can earn his way thru '14. Plus allows time for Smith to look for a QB to groom if Keenum doesn't work. Plus allows 3 years to discover if Yates will be a successor.
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I love it. Dude just signed an extension and folks are figuring when to cut him and how much it will cost.
Proactive thinking rather than reactionary. We can appreciate the worth of a player and still plan for "life after".
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I love it. Dude just signed an extension and folks are figuring when to cut him and how much it will cost.
So you think he's going to play out the entire contract?
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So you think he's going to play out the entire contract?
I expect him to get another extension before it's all said and done. I expect Schaub to be our QB for another 6-7 years.
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Going by salary, Schaub is 7th in average money over the length of the remaining contract. Going by guaranteed money at the time of signing, Matt is 12th. Not too bad considering we all think he's in the 2nd/3rd tier of starting QBs. He's only slightly ahead of guys like Romo, Sanchez, Big Ben and Bradford. I think putting it in this perspective, it looks like a fair deal based on his proven capability. Maybe a little high due to his injury risk, but still a fair amount for a franchise QB.


Drew Brees - 5 years $100,000,000 - Signing Bonus $37,000,000 - Average Salary $20,000,000 - $40 million guaranteed

Peyton Manning - 5 years $96,000,000 - Signing Bonus $0 - Average Salary $19,200,000 - If 2013 physical is passed, $40 million guaranteed

Michael Vick 5 years $80,000,000 - Signing Bonus $7,000,000 Other Bonuses $8,000,000 Average Salary $16,000,000 - $32.5 million guaranteed

Tom Brady 5 years $78,500,000 - Signing Bonus $16,000,000 Other Bonuses $9,100,000 Average Salary $15,700,000 $48.5 million guaranteed

Eli Manning 7 years $106,900,000 - Signing Bonus $13,000,000 Average Salary $15,271,429 - $35 million guaranteed

Philip Rivers 7 years $98,250,000 - Signing Bonus $19,550,000 Average Salary $14,035,714 - $38.5 million guaranteed

Matt Schaub - 5 years $66,150,000 - Signing Bonus $17,500,000 - Other Bonuses $3,000,000 - Average Salary $13,230,000 - $29.15 million guaranteed

Sam Bradford - 6 years $78,000,000 - Signing Bonus 18,000,000 - Average Salary $13,000,000 - $50 million guaranteed

Ben Roethlisberger 8 years $102,000,000 Signing Bonus $25,200,000 - Other Bonuses $lots Average Salary 12,750,000 - $33.2 million guaranteed

Matt Stafford - 6 years $72,000,000 - Signing Bonus $17,400,000 - Average Salary $12,000,000 - $41.75 million guaranteed

Mark Sanchez 5 years $58,250,000 - Signing Bonus $8,000,000 - Other Bonuses $6,500,000 Average Salary $11,650,000 $20.5 million guaranteed

Tony Romo - 6 years $67,400,000 - Signing Bonus $11,500,000 - Average Salary $11,233,333 - $30 million guaranteed

Matt Ryan 6 years 62 million Signing Bonus $7,500,000 Other Bonuses $7,400,000 - Average Salary $11,000,000 34 million guaranteed

Aaron Rodgers - 6 years $65,000,000 - Signing Bonus $0 - Average Salary $10,833,333 - $20 million guaranteed

Carson Palmer - 4 years $43,000,000 - Signing Bonus $0 - Average Salary $10,750,000 - Guaranteed ???

Matt Cassel 6 years $63,000,000 - Signing Bonus $0 Average Salary $10,500,000 $28 million guaranteed

Jay Cutler - 5 years $49,770,000 - Signing Bonus $7,000,000 - Average Salary $9,954,000 - $20 million guaranteed
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I'm more thrilled at the structure of the deal. I have to give Rick Smith and Chris Olsen a big thumbs up. There appears to be few options if Schaub not resigned.
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Going by salary, Schaub is 7th in average money over the length of the remaining contract. Going by guaranteed money at the time of signing, Matt is 12th. Not too bad considering we all think he's in the 2nd/3rd tier of starting QBs. He's only slightly ahead of guys like Romo, Sanchez, Big Ben and Bradford. I think putting it in this perspective, it looks like a fair deal based on his proven capability. Maybe a little high due to his injury risk, but still a fair amount for a franchise QB.
Nice post - thanks for the info.

Sometime before the start of next season, Joe Flacco will sign a contract that will push Matt further down the list of highest paid QB's. Not too long after that, Aaron Rodgers, Matt Ryan, Tony Romo, and Jay Cutler will likely do the same.
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Going by salary, Schaub is 7th in average money over the length of the remaining contract. Going by guaranteed money at the time of signing, Matt is 12th. Not too bad considering we all think he's in the 2nd/3rd tier of starting QBs. He's only slightly ahead of guys like Romo, Sanchez, Big Ben and Bradford. I think putting it in this perspective, it looks like a fair deal based on his proven capability. Maybe a little high due to his injury risk, but still a fair amount for a franchise QB.
Thanks for the listing. Puts the new contract in perspective.


...are you sure P.M. didn't get ANY sort of signing bonus? That seems unusual.



oh and repped btw.
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Thanks for the listing. Puts the new contract in perspective.


...are you sure P.M. didn't get ANY sort of signing bonus? That seems unusual.



oh and repped btw.
Yeah, his contract is the outlier. The first year's salary is guaranteed (18 million), then the next 40 million is guaranteed if he passes a physical next offseason. So really, it's up to 58 guaranteed, but it's all salary. The design was to protect the team from injury, but to reward Peyton if he can stay healthy. Considering how rich he already is, I don't think he cared about getting a signing bonus.
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I'm more thrilled at the structure of the deal. I have to give Rick Smith and Chris Olsen a big thumbs up. There appears to be few options if Schaub not resigned.
Can you explain a little more about this, I'm not seeing how the structure benefits the team in the event Matt Can't play it out.
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Can you explain a little more about this, I'm not seeing how the structure benefits the team in the event Matt Can't play it out.
Sure, as reported the contract guarantees Matt $29 million. Probably helps to ignore the total deal of $66m for now. He gets bonus upfront $17.5m that is in his pocket now and part of that guarantee. 2012 base salary $4.4 (which is lower than the $7m he was scheduled to get) gives him $17.5 + 4.4 = $21.9m by end of this season + 2013 $7.25m = $29million guaranteed. The next three '14, '15 & '16 not guaranteed. If Smith decides to cut him, no salary owed for any of those years. The $17.5 bonus as explained in earlier posts is divided by the 5 year length of new deal including '12= $3.5m per year for team cap purposes. If cut after 2014, he gets no $ and the remaining years of bonus & for cap purposes it all applies to the next season in full. If he gets cut before game one 2014 for example or three seasons early, $3.5 times 3 remaining years or 10.5m goes against 2014 cap rather than his 2014 salary of $10m + $3.5 bonus = $13.5m cap. About $3m savings to cap but huge savings on salaries.
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As with all these nfl contracts, its the g-money. 24m is solid for schaub and texans especially when brees got 60m g money. Its probably a deal the texans can get out of in 3 yrs if we include this season. Good deal on both fronts.
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Last September, the Texans opted after only one game to give Matt Schaub a long-term contract. He pocketed $22 million in 2012, and the question after the season will become whether the Texans want to throw good money after a suddenly bad player.

Per a source with knowledge of the contract, the cap hit becomes somewhat manageable after the 2013 season. If the Texans designate Schaub as a post-June 1 cut, the cap charge in 2014 would be $3.5 million. In 2015, $7 million in dead money would apply.

The Texans also would avoid paying Schaub $10 million next season by cutting him, along with another $1 million in total per-game roster bonuses.


While it’s debatable whether T.J. Yates or Case Keenum would be as good as Schaub, either guy would be a better choice on a dollar-for-dollar basis. They each will make less than 10 percent next year of Schaub’s scheduled pay in 2014.

One of them could be in line for a raise, as soon as next season.
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The Texans have been criticized a lot recently for the four-year extension they gave Schaub last year on the eve of the 2012 season opener that totaled $69.7 million. Here's what I found while examining his contract:

The deal averages $15.5 million per year, with a $17.5 million signing bonus. It guarantees Schaub's base salary of $7.25 million this year. Between the signing bonus, this year's base, last year's base and a few workout bonuses, the Texans will have paid Schaub about $29.7 million of that contract by the end of this season.

If they decide Schaub isn't part of their future, they don't have to pay him one cent more. Schaub's 2014, 2015 and 2016 bases aren't guaranteed and in each of those seasons he has a roster bonus that pays him $1 million total if he's active for 16 games. That's $40 million the Texans would not be on the hook for if they didn't want to be.

Whether they will or not will depend on how Schaub plays the rest of this season. As I've been writing, I don't see his performances so far as evidence that the Texans should move on from him.
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In Week 1, The Houston Texans destroyed the Miami Dolphins in one of the most defensive-dominated games in the young team's history..

"Hey Matt, we know you just had major foot surgery and this was only the first week.. Ah heck, here's a 60 million dollar deal."

And I actually fooled myself into thinking maybe this was a good idea when the news broke. NOPE.
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The extension was done before the game. They just announced it after the game was over.
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I just read the thread title and almost had a heart attack! Thank the invisible man in the sky that this is an old thread!
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