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Old 09-09-2012   #61
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Texans general manager Rick Smith announced after Sunday's 30-10 victory over the Miami Dolphins that the team had signed Schaub to a contract extension. NFL.com and NFL Network's Steve Wyche obtained the numbers from a source: It's a four-year contract with nearly $30 million guaranteed and a maximum value of $62 million.
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I'm good with this. If Barwin doesn't look like he's gonna produce, save the $$ on an extension and lets see what Whiney can do. Barwin looked average, at best, today.
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This is a great bargain for the team. Franchise quarterbacks are a rarity and must be protected from hitting the FA market. While there's a debate about where Schaub ranks among his peers at the position, in my opinion there's ample statistical evidence that he's an elite quarterback who deserves to get paid as such. Locking him up now was a very wise move because this team is primed to make a deep run, and every future success this season will only bump his price tag higher. Let's assume the Texans win the AFC or the SB and Schaub hits FA next season....what would the market price for his services be then?
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I'm good with this. If Barwin doesn't look like he's gonna produce, save the $$ on an extension and lets see what Whiney can do. Barwin looked average, at best, today.
I'm very worried that he bulked up too much and lost some of his speed & athleticism.
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Matt got about what I thought he would but I expected it to be with another team. If there is no upfront bonus to average out and the last year is back loaded and non guaranteed (which it probaby is) this could be a very good deal for team. I have very mixed feelings about Matt but he looked good today. His passes seem to be more linear or "on a string than before.

When I reworked my 2013 mock yesterday, I exchanged QB for OLB but did not know why. I just had the feeling last night that Matt would re-sign but had absolutly nothing to base that on but gut. I went to bed about 12:30 and tossed and turned until after 2:30 trying to argue against that feeling. I had posted on a cap thread in reply to someone saying we had about $24 M IIRC before Brown's deal, we should be able to sign Schaub & Conner. Well one down, one of those two left.

Edit here post I refer to from Section516 :

Even with those pending free agents, Clayton’s salary-cap list for 2013 is filled with good news for the AFC South.


The Texans will have $24.8 million.
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now its either yates or within the next 2 years we need to sign or Draft our QB of the future

most likey draft what are some good College QB'S in the next 2 years ???
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now its either yates or within the next 2 years we need to sign or Draft our QB of the future

most likey draft what are some good College QB'S in the next 2 years ???
I can see us trading up in 2013 or 2014 to get our future QB. I saw KJ being more in position in this game (although I missed first one and one half quarters.

I like Zac Dysert who has moved up in polls after his '12 performance.
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Any1 know how much Jamison got extended for?
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Tim Jamison Defensive Lineman 9/9/2012: Signed a three-year contract. 2012: $615,000, 2013-2014: Under Contract, 2015: Free Agent
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Just a gut feeling, you know? Schaub is a good QB. Arguably top 10, and I am very happy that he is on the Texans. However, I dont know if we can win a Super Bowl with him. When the pocket breaks down, the Schaub has, historically, been and trouble. And it sounds like (I could not watch the game) he has gotten even worse in this regard. This is something that will never get better.

I am not advocating a running QB- I dont want a Vick or Young. I do want a guy, who when stuff goes down, can make plays with his feet, even if it is just buying time. Look at the last couple QBs to win a Super Bowl- Eli Manning (not a run threat, but moves well), Rodgers, Big Ben, Brees, Brady. Peyton is the only real exception here, and even that is questionable since his release was so quick.

Like I said, Schaub is a good QB. In particular, he has probably the best play action fake in the NFL. I just dont think he can get it done without pristine protection.
Don't worry with only 24.75 mil. guaranteed I think it's highly doubtful Schaub is here all 4 of those years. All the guaranteed money will be paid out after only 2 yrs.. As long as Schaub stays healthy I like this contract, and the signing of Jamison. Excellent work by Rick Smith. That's 2 less needs in the 2013 draft.

I hope they can extend Barwin as well but he may not work out in the numbers crunch, and with Mercilus waiting to play Barwin may just be odd man out at the end of the season. I hope I'm wrong.
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I'm good with this. If Barwin doesn't look like he's gonna produce, save the $$ on an extension and lets see what Whiney can do. Barwin looked average, at best, today.
I think the move sets us up to franchise Barwin if he doesn't sign before FA. The tag on an OLB isn't too bad from a team perspective. I'm sure Connor is going to have to factor that in when they start negotiating again.
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However cap friendly structured the terms, Schaub still agreed to a contract that makes him among the highest paid QB's in NFL @ 15.5 mil avg. per/yr.

My question is how where the Texans able to fit this contract under the cap since reportedly they were 700k over prior to this signing, plus Jamison too?
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However cap friendly structured the terms, Schaub still agreed to a contract that makes him among the highest paid QB's in NFL @ 15.5 mil avg. per/yr.

My question is how where the Texans able to fit this contract under the cap since reportedly they were 700k over prior to this signing, plus Jamison too?
It's the same thing as the Duane Brown re-signing, the contracts will take effect in the 2013 season and beyond, so no impact to this year unless they wanted it to. That's not to say they couldn't have modified his 2012 salary and restructured that in the process, but if anything that caphit would go down. Any signing bonuses can be paid now, but that will only effect the cap based on how they decided to structure the deal.
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My question is how where the Texans able to fit this contract under the cap since reportedly they were 700k over prior to this signing, plus Jamison too?
I get the feeling there's more to this new cap structure than we as fans know about?
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Tim Jamison Defensive Lineman 9/9/2012: Signed a three-year contract. 2012: $615,000, 2013-2014: Under Contract, 2015: Free Agent
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I'm good with this. If Barwin doesn't look like he's gonna produce, save the $$ on an extension and lets see what Whiney can do. Barwin looked average, at best, today.
He was also going against one of the top tackles in the league
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I can't explain it, but schaubs throws actually look better.

His throws aren't as airy as they used to be. I dint feel like I'm watching the ball travel in slow motion to it's target.
I mentioned that in the preseason. Matt has looked sharper since his return to me. I hope he can keep it up.
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I thought the annual Vet-Min was > 615 K ?
This year, 615k is the minimum for a 3 year vet. Next year, a 4-6 year vet minimum will be 715k.
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That's what I'm saying.
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I think Barwin is gonna wish he took the Texans offer. He has looked very average after putting on weight...
When did this happen. I can't believe I missed that the Texans even made an offer, let alone Barwin refusing it.
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