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Old 09-10-2012   #141
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Kubiak talked about it on the radio and said he was disturbed that they had first and goal at the 1 and couldn't punch it in.
He needs to be disturbed. He should consider his job on the line at all times from here on out.

LOL, the people I was watching the game with joked saying they were chanting, "KUUUUUBES"
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Kubiak talked about it on the radio and said he was disturbed that they had first and goal at the 1 and couldn't punch it in.


Certainly nothing new to this team though it has been somewhat of a problem the last couple of years
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Certainly nothing new to this team though it has been somewhat of a problem the last couple of years
I think the players know it is what it is. You perform well and Reliant is one of the best places in the league for you to call home. Perform below expectations, and you will pay for it.

Texas, moreover, Houston is a conservative place, we don't accept mediocrity so easily like liberals do.
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I think the players know it is what it is. You perform well and Reliant is one of the best places in the league for you to call home. Perform below expectations, and you will pay for it.

Texas, moreover, Houston is a conservative place, we don't accept mediocrity so easily like liberals do.



Im not sure how any of your political talk fits into the fact that the texans have had a tough time from 1st and goal from the 1 yard line for the last couple of years.
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As a fan, you want complete and total domination from beginning to end. You want your offense to march down the field and score nothing but touchdowns and you want your defense to force nothing but 3 and outs or turnovers.

But even in a lot of routs and blow-outs, that's not the way it usually happens. Even dominant defenses give up some yardage and some points. Even potent offenses don't score all the time.

We beat a team by 20 points. We didn't surrender 80 yards on the ground. We forced turnovers. We didn't surrender a single defensive TD and only 3 defensive points. We won the time of possession battle and the turnover battle. Our QB was efficient.

We've got things that we can improve on offense and defense but lets take a little time to savor this victory. The team can't take that time to feel good about itself. The team needs to see all those flaws that a better team might have been able to take advantage of and address them. But we fans need to enjoy the ride a bit more, I think.
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Im not sure how any of your political talk fits into the fact that the texans have had a tough time from 1st and goal from the 1 yard line for the last couple of years.
LOL, talking politics on another board, so it seemed like a relavent comparison at the time...
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As a fan, you want complete and total domination from beginning to end. You want your offense to march down the field and score nothing but touchdowns and you want your defense to force nothing but 3 and outs or turnovers.

But even in a lot of routs and blow-outs, that's not the way it usually happens. Even dominant defenses give up some yardage and some points. Even potent offenses don't score all the time.

We beat a team by 20 points. We didn't surrender 80 yards on the ground. We forced turnovers. We didn't surrender a single defensive TD and only 3 defensive points. We won the time of possession battle and the turnover battle. Our QB was efficient.

We've got things that we can improve on offense and defense but lets take a little time to savor this victory. The team can't take that time to feel good about itself. The team needs to see all those flaws that a better team might have been able to take advantage of and address them. But we fans need to enjoy the ride a bit more, I think.
It was a W, and one that we got a hold of before it was too late. Are there some mistakes that need some attention? Absolutely, but every team has concerns that they pay attention to. It's knowing this that shows that we have grown as a team and an organization. Savor the victory, but also realize how easily it could have gone the other way...any. given. Sunday. Good teams continue to work and improve, and I think that's where we are at. Kubiak's pressers are even starting to sound a little different. I just wish he wasn't as conservative on Offense....can we put up 40 before we start pumping the breaks? I'm just saying
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We are not going to dominate every aspect of every game. I do think we are going to have to throw the ball a little more this year after losing the rt side of the line.
Our roster against theirs? Yeah we should pretty much dominate all aspects of the game. Sure there will be plays where their OT defeats Barwin but the first half reminds me of 2010 games as in not starting the O until after halftime.

Not saying you utah but some posters are focusing on the score rather than the players. That is a mistake and you can bet Kubes and McNair are not fooled.
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I think the players know it is what it is. You perform well and Reliant is one of the best places in the league for you to call home. Perform below expectations, and you will pay for it.

Texas, moreover, Houston is a conservative place, we don't accept mediocrity so easily like liberals do.
Like those mediocre Patriots fans? Texans have been the definition of mediocrity until last season
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Like those mediocre Patriots fans? Texans have been the definition of mediocrity until last season
I don't know many real Patriots fans, outside of the girls who get a Tom Brady jersey because, "he's cute"
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Three sacks for the game. Our pressure on Tannehill seemed somewhat sporadic. Thoughts?
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Three sacks for the game. Our pressure on Tannehill seemed somewhat sporadic. Thoughts?
Without having seen the first quarter + part of second, I think it was combination of Dolphins coming in focused and battling like an under rated boxer that knows he's got only so much in the tank and tries to knockout the champ + Texans first game nerves + Texans as the boxing champ who cannot figure out why the underrated guy will not stop dancing so he can be hit.

I do expect a more "workman" like approach next game.
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Three sacks for the game. Our pressure on Tannehill seemed somewhat sporadic. Thoughts?
Dare I say we are underestimating some aspects of Miami's game? Are we possibly also, under scrutinizing the pressure of the batted passes and hurries? I think the defense was pretty good all game. They allowed 3 points. Not sure how that would be a complaint. I'm more concerned with the other side of the ball, even thought they seemed to get it going for about 6 minutes until we went into Kubiak snail mode. I'm wondering if that doesn't kill momentum going into the next game. Football players love to step on the throat of their opponent when they have them down, and it seems like GK never lets that happen.
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Dare I say we are underestimating some aspects of Miami's game? Are we possibly also, under scrutinizing the pressure of the batted passes and hurries? I think the defense was pretty good all game. They allowed 3 points. Not sure how that would be a complaint. I'm more concerned with the other side of the ball, even thought they seemed to get it going for about 6 minutes until we went into Kubiak snail mode. I'm wondering if that doesn't kill momentum going into the next game. Football players love to step on the throat of their opponent when they have them down, and it seems like GK never lets that happen.
you can call it snail mode or you can just say that being conservative and not taking chances in a game where your defense has not given up a TD is just good coaching.
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Three sacks for the game. Our pressure on Tannehill seemed somewhat sporadic. Thoughts?
Only 2 teams got more sacks than we did. Only 1 team held their opponent to a lower QB rating than we did. Only 2 teams got more interceptions than we did.

I'd say we did OK.
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My concerns center on Cushing being the only dominant player inside, so he isn't going to be the player he was last year since teams can spend more time on him instead of both inside backers and the fact that we seem to have two strong side linebackers in Barwin and Reed and no real true weakside guy till Whitney Mercilus is ready to play full time. Perhaps not as much 'concerns' than nitpicks.
I'd love for Merci to win that WOLB job. Put Connor back on the Strongside, get rid of Bradie James & stick Reed at Mo & Cushing back to Mike.
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Part of being a playmaker is being able to capitalize when your opponent makes mistakes or is slightly off in what they're doing.
I don't disagree & this has nothing to do with your post...

But part of being a veteran team is capitalizing on your opponents mistakes & working through your own.

This Texans team, so far, looks like a veteran football team. We capitalized on the Dolphins mistakes & minimized our own. Wasn't too long ago that things like the Special Teams gaffs, or the run defense woes, or even the amount of missed tackles would have ate our lunch & handed a game like yesterdays to the other team.

Like the couple of passes allowed over McCain. He could have wiffed completely & those gone for long plays, but he recovered kept fighting & made a play. Two tipped balls, our guys "just happened" to be in the right place for the INT. Glover Quin (my favorite Texans) popping DT & getting that ball back.... Antonio Smith not turning some tomfollery into a personal foul.

Yeah, there were some serious issues that surfaced yesterday, but man....... I'm loving this team.
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Interesting I haven't seen anyone mention the booing. There were some fans whining about it on the Texans FB page, but I thought it fired them up. Texans fans normally being rabidly supportive, boo'd the team when it stalled and settled for 3 and they are getting tired of it. The booing was followed by 21 points off of 3 consecutive turnovers...I'd say it was effective.
I didn't think they were booing the team. Felt more like they were booing the decision not to punch it in.... Kubiak. Until he brings us a Lombardi he's going to get more boos.

They (we... I wasn't part of the booing) loved him a little later on when he challenged the LeStar TD.
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I didn't think they were booing the team. Felt more like they were booing the decision not to punch it in.... Kubiak. Until he brings us a Lombardi he's going to get more boos.

They (we... I wasn't part of the booing) loved him a little later on when he challenged the LeStar TD.
I think the fans were booing the fact that we didn't take a shot at the end zone. I admit that I wanted them to take a shot since they were playing Andre single cover so much. In the larger picture fans boo when the home team don't go for it on every 4th down too though - so I wouldn't read too much into the booing.
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I just wish he wasn't as conservative on Offense....can we put up 40 before we start pumping the breaks? I'm just saying
I don't think Kubiak is conservative. It's usually mistakes & penalties that has Kubiak pumping the brakes, not small leads. When it rains it pours & I think Kubiak has seen that. Remember the Dallas game in Dallas. That's the one that I'm always reminded of. Defensively, offensively, we held our own. Then we had a Special Teams gaff, turned the ball over, leading to a quick score. Then it was two more turnovers back to back & the game got out of hand.

Just like it did for the Dolphins yesterday.

Someone said earlier, that Philbin should have pulled back the reigns after the score got to 17-3. I think that was already too late. Those guys are thinking too much by that time, "The game's on me, I gotta make a play." Then BAMMMM!!! Glover Quin smacks you in the mouF


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