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Old 05-27-2005   #1
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time to move on fellow Texans, whats done is done. it will be fun to look forward to next years progress of the players already drafted, College Football and those who declare eliglble for the 2006 draft.

Casserly has stocked the team with a franchise QB, Pro-Bowl WR, one of the brightest young CB's in the league, a solid gritty OLB & now a down & dirty DT. combine these young cornerstones with free agent signings Robaire Smith, Todd Wade & the trade for starting CB Phillip Buchanon the stage is set to add one of the premier lineman in next years draft, it just took 5 years to get here.

so with the 1st pick of the Houston Texans in the 06 draft, beerlovers (very early) pick is Marcus McNeill, 6-9, 340, Auburn

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I havn't been able to see McNeil play, do you think that he will be able to play LT in the pros. Because at 6'9" 340lbs, it doesn't seem like he has the feet for LT.
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I havn't been able to see McNeil play, do you think that he will be able to play LT in the pros. Because at 6'9" 340lbs, it doesn't seem like he has the feet for LT.
McNeil doesn't have the feet for LT...He may end up being a great RT, but if you put him on the left side, you're just setting him up for failure...If we were to go OL in the first, my top choice would be Eric Winston of Miami, followed by D'Brickashaw Ferguson, followed by Jon Scott...
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I agree with DREK. McNeil is just too big. Remember Jamie nails from a few years back. He was about mcneil size and they moved him inside to guard after his try at RT.

I like winston or b-shaw.
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I agree with DREK. I like winston or b-shaw.
I agree too but unless the Texans really struggle or work some kind of draft day magic to move up both your guys will be surely gone. Where I'd expect the Texans to draft is around 20th, a spot where McNeil may still be avialable (although wishfull thinking on my part). I disagree however that he is too big to play tackle, his feet are very quick & agile even with his size. watching Auburn play last year he looked dominant at times in the style of Pace, if he has as good or even better year this year he would be considered top 10 material as well. 2006 year of the offensive lineman
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What do you guys think of Jon Scott from texas? Would he be able to protect Carr as a rookie?
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I think next year is the year we go after a real TE since Jopru has been such a disapointment and go for the boy Marcedes Lewis, I think hes gunna be just a half step behind the type of player K2 way coming into the league, but with better blocking skills. And less arrogant, just hoe he doesnt get hurt like Winslow.
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I think next year is the year we go after a real TE since Jopru has been such a disapointment and go for the boy Marcedes Lewis, I think hes gunna be just a half step behind the type of player K2 way coming into the league, but with better blocking skills. And less arrogant, just hoe he doesnt get hurt like Winslow.
still take the offensive lineman in the 1st round and go for that TE in the 2nd round that is also an excellent blocker with soft hands- Tim Day (ironic he was co-mvp with Lewis on the all pac 10 2nd team)

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nah...our first rounder next year will be a LT unless shelton is signed and has a stellar year here...jon scott might be able to play LT he might not...mcneil shows flashes of good feet but this season will determine if he is draft to play LT or RT...if winston can stay healthy this season he will be our guy...if not look for us to go to b'shaw...worst comes to worst we'll draft whitmorth or trueblood...both of these guys are LT's who haven't gotten as much tv time as the other guys
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How is it that most people on this board seem to have ruled out the possibility that Seth Wand might have an excellent year this year? It is his second year as a starter, and his third year in the league. He came from a second tier football program, and was drafted in the third round. Back when he was drafted, did anyone expect a better scenario than this? He appears to be right on track.

If we go out an draft a LT in the first round next year, we will start from scratch all over again. Whoever we draft will probably not start in their first year. In their second year, if they do start, they will make a lot of mistakes as they continune to learn the position. If everything goes very well, this late 1st round pick will begin to settle in for the long-haul beginning in their third year. This is exactly the track that Seth Wand is currently on. Of course, he must step up to the next level this year. However, we should all step back and take a look at the long view beginning three years ago. Seth Wand has not performed below expectations, at least not below any reasonable expectations.

Do you guys really want to start from scratch and go through another 3-year development cycle? Should we just plan on continuously ejecting our young developing LT's after 2 years if they have not established themselves as elite status LT's within this time? This approach seems short-sighted to me.
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hope your right bout' Seth but remember we still have McKinney & Weigert who are closing fast to the end of their playing days. as any other position our offensive line needs a top tier playmaker. next year (06) is what you look forward to rebuild & infuse young talented players at what has to be our biggest need position now. if Wand is much improved and I certainly hope so, this would provide an excellent stop gap until a true franchise LT or other offensive lineman can be aquired (without breaking the cap via free agency). then the Texans will have truely arrived
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Beerlover,

Congratulations on your 1000th post. That's a bunch of posts.
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I like the drafting of a TE its the most glaring hole on offense if we sign shelton. and who wouldn't love the Carr to Mercedes connection.
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Beerlover,

Congratulations on your 1000th post. That's a bunch of posts.
thanks, I think far too much time spent but I enjoy y'all and being a part of the best fan base on the best boards in the entire NFL. Vinny really has done an outstanding job moderating, posting & keeping us all in line (though I'm sure its difficult at times )

as far as the draft its one of my passions as you've guessed beer is another so I would like to keep this thread moving for all those you feel the finest moment in all of sports is when College Football intersects with the National Football League which depending on the depth of your perspective can begin as soon as your three year old can toss a football up to College and he declares he's going pro through his trial & tribulations making the roster and becoming a starter for the Texans.

its just one big circle and we're placed here to observe, assist and participate to the best of our abilites. i'm just a Texan fan, and proud to be one!

back to this thread, I've already made my EARLY preference mock picks for the 1st & 2nd round in the 06 draft. with the 3rd round pick aquired in the trade with New Orleans (which will be higher than the Texans own pick) the Texans select from Washington State Cougers Will Derting 235 lbs MLB http://www.collegefootballnews.com/2...illDerting.htm

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So far, I like your picks, Beerdude...Here are mine:

If Wand/Shelton/anybody solidifies LT this year:

1. Haloti Ngata, NT, Oregon - He would provide good depth for an injury-prone Seth Payne and he seems to be born to play NT...

2. Leonard Pope, TE, Georgia - I know we've had bad luck with our other 2nd round TE, but Pope is worth the risk...

3a. Anthony Schlegel, ILB, Ohio St - Fun fact: Did you know that we've never drafted an ILB? Schlegel is a former Air Force transfer who is overshadowed by AJ Hawk, but he is a force against the run and makes lots of plays behind the LOS...I didn't catch that many OSU games last year, so I'm not sure about his coverage skills, so I'll keep a look out on him...

3b. Jabari Levey, OT, South Carolina - This 6'6", 312 lb LT from the other USC is equally adept at run and pass blocking, and we all know about McNair's affinity for players from his alma mater...

If LT is a question mark heading into the 2006 draft:

1. We trade up using our 2nd and our later 3rd to get Eric Winston, OT, Miami (FL) - Winston is a former TE who is coming off of a knee injury, an ACL I believe...If he bounces back from this injury as expected, the sky is the limit for him...He is a punishing run-blocker who posesses great agility and is able to stay with the speediest of edge rushers...There have been rumblings that he is a better prospect than Robert Gallery was when he entered the 2004 draft, but Winston could conceivable be available in the 7-10 range since D'Brickashaw Ferguson has a good chance of going before him...

3. Dominique Byrd, TE, USC - I wanted to go defense here, but I think that for now, we are set as far as starters go, and we are in dire need of a TE who is adroit at both catching and blocking, and Byrd fits the bill...

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Assuming that we pick up shelton and he finally gives Carr enough time to get the ball to our WRs, how does everyone feel about picking up LBs A.J. Hawk, LB Chad Greenway or DT Gabe Watson?
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i think our main priority next year will be to grab a LT but if shelton comes then i say we go for mercedes lewis, the TE out of UCLA, or one of the many good LBs coming out next year i.e. A.J. Hawk, Ernie Sims, Chad Greenway etc...
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Leonard Pope is like 6'9'' right? Talk about an endzone threat. I checked out the compairison of Marcus McNeill and Jamie Nails, Nails was 3 inches shorter a few pounds heavier and played at a smaller school. Also in a zone blocking scheme, your linemen don't have to have the best feet. I mean just standing there it would take like 2 seconds to run around McNeill, not to mention its a little hard to run through a 6'9" 340lbs mountain of man.
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Assuming that we pick up shelton and he finally gives Carr enough time to get the ball to our WRs, how does everyone feel about picking up LBs A.J. Hawk, LB Chad Greenway or DT Gabe Watson?
It would be amazing to get AJ Hawk (6'2", 238, 4.46) but he will probably be a top 10 pick and I don't see us trading up for a buc LB...I like Greenway, but I don't think he's fast enough for our system (4.7 estimated 40)...I'm not sure that Gabe Watson will be available when we pick (I'm assuming we'll be in the 15-20 range), but he'd be a great addition...He has good strength and quickness for a man of his stature (6'4", 335) and, like Ngata, he seems to have been born to play NT...

Switching gears, I'm bored so I'll throw out my comparisons of the top 3 TEs in the 2006 draft...

Marcedes Lewis, UCLA, 6'6", 255 - He probably has the best hands of any TE in the nation, plus he is very physical as a receiver...He'll create huge matchup problems for most defenses because he is faster than most LBs and safeties...However, when it comes to blocking, he is rather average and unspectacular...

Leonard Pope, Georgia, 6'7", 250 - He will ne a junior in 2005, but with another season like he had in 2004, I could see him coming out for the 2006 draft...During his freshman season, he was used mainly as a blocker, but as a sophomore he broke out to the tone of 19.3 YPC and 6 TDs...He has been rumored to run a 4.55 40, which is very good for a man of his size...

Tim Day, Oregon, 6'4", 268 - He is just what Beerlover said he is: an excellent blocker with soft hands...He has the size to make tough catches in traffic, but I'm not sure of his speed...
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It would be amazing to get AJ Hawk (6'2", 238, 4.46) but he will probably be a top 10 pick and I don't see us trading up for a buc LB...I like Greenway, but I don't think he's fast enough for our system (4.7 estimated 40)...I'm not sure that Gabe Watson will be available when we pick (I'm assuming we'll be in the 15-20 range), but he'd be a great addition...He has good strength and quickness for a man of his stature (6'4", 335) and, like Ngata, he seems to have been born to play NT...

Switching gears, I'm bored so I'll throw out my comparisons of the top 3 TEs in the 2006 draft...

Marcedes Lewis, UCLA, 6'6", 255 - He probably has the best hands of any TE in the nation, plus he is very physical as a receiver...He'll create huge matchup problems for most defenses because he is faster than most LBs and safeties...However, when it comes to blocking, he is rather average and unspectacular...

Leonard Pope, Georgia, 6'7", 250 - He will ne a junior in 2005, but with another season like he had in 2004, I could see him coming out for the 2006 draft...During his freshman season, he was used mainly as a blocker, but as a sophomore he broke out to the tone of 19.3 YPC and 6 TDs...He has been rumored to run a 4.55 40, which is very good for a man of his size...

Tim Day, Oregon, 6'4", 268 - He is just what Beerlover said he is: an excellent blocker with soft hands...He has the size to make tough catches in traffic, but I'm not sure of his speed...

What do you think of Rodrique Wright, NT from Univ of Texas?
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