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Week 1 VS Miami. Lets predict :)
- Thread starter EllisUnit
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Bulls on Parade. I predict a route.TheIronDuke
All Pro
20-10 Texans, 6 sacks on Tannehill but give up some big plays on the ground.
Seasick Sailor
Noob
I think we roll 35-10.
Lurvinator11
Veteran
42-0
GlassHalfFull
Hall of Fame
rush2112mn
Rookie
This is the first game...it sets the tone for the season. We need to get off on real good note and a dominating performance. Thats what this team needs to do....dominate teams and put them out of their misery. Vegas has us as a 10 point favorite.
Bleed_Blu_Red
Waterboy
31-10 Texans. Reason behind my score we run and milk the clock as usual and shorten the game.
Defense gets 5 sacks and a INT
Offense Foster goes for 170yds rushing 35yds receiving 2 TD's, Schaub throws a TD and Holliday takes one to the house.
Defense gets 5 sacks and a INT
Offense Foster goes for 170yds rushing 35yds receiving 2 TD's, Schaub throws a TD and Holliday takes one to the house.
Dutchrudder
Hall of Fame
26-13, with many people questioning the redzone offense due to lots of FGs.
I think the game starts with back to back turnovers, in Miami's favor. We're down 0-14 halfway through the first Qtr.
We put them on lock down the rest of the way & slowly take the lead. Arian & Ben both go for over a 100 yards in a ground & pound display of dominance.
Just a guess.
We put them on lock down the rest of the way & slowly take the lead. Arian & Ben both go for over a 100 yards in a ground & pound display of dominance.
Just a guess.
Bleed_Blu_Red
Waterboy
copy.....
Haha my bad only read the creators post. never read the other post before I posted at least we agree.
Bleed_Blu_Red
Waterboy
Just a question. Do you think Newton can hold his own against Jared Odrick?
AggiebyMarriage
Waterboy
I would not count your chickens before they have hatched. This is the same kind of talk that I remember hearing, right before the season opener against the Jets back in 2009. Please note that Troy Nolan was just signed by Miami.
I just guessing mind you, but I suspect that the Miami coaching staff is, as I type this, milking Troy for every detail of Wades defense so they can get out of him. It is much easier to attack a defense if you have a little inside knowledge to guide you.
The Texans better take this team seriously because Miami will have a pretty good idea of how to read Wades defense, especially the secondary.
I just guessing mind you, but I suspect that the Miami coaching staff is, as I type this, milking Troy for every detail of Wades defense so they can get out of him. It is much easier to attack a defense if you have a little inside knowledge to guide you.
The Texans better take this team seriously because Miami will have a pretty good idea of how to read Wades defense, especially the secondary.
EllisUnit
Vote RED!!!
SAMURAITEXAN
All Pro
GP
Go Texans!
They have 6 days, and in 6 days Troy Nolan cannot instill THAT level of knowledge into the Dolphins for the Dolphins to counter what we'll do.
Plus, Wade is smart enough to throw several wrinkles into our packages on Sunday that anything Troy might tip to the Fins...it could backfire when the opposite of what the Dolphins O-Coord thought would happen ends up happening.
Desperate, wormy, no-talented teams like the Titans and the Dolphins think they can get ahead of the curve by acquiring one team's castaways. I think the only time I have seen it work pretty well was when Sage Rosenfels was with the Giants for awhile. Sage had enough lead time to get us ****ed over pretty good, and that game was a laugher from start to finish. **** Sage, by the way. I'm glad he's out of Houston and out of the league too. Serves him right.
I'm taking Wade's defense over Tannehill. Even if you give the rook the Texans playbook.
Houston is the largest favorite of week 1 (-10.5). The Texans make it 7-0 versus the Phins, 24-3.
GP
Go Texans!
Holliday returns a punt or kickoff for a TD.
Foster scores.
Tate scores.
Forsett into the game by the 4th quarter. Yates into the game by the 4th quarter. AJ gets to rest in the 4th too, Martin in as WR1 and Jean and Walter clean up the scraps alongside Martin.
Dolphins try to catch up, but the Texans D is straight up hammering them from all angles.
Final score: 34 Texans - Dolphins 17
Nolan gets dropped off the Fins' roster on the Monday after. Gets picked up by our week 2 opponent.
Foster scores.
Tate scores.
Forsett into the game by the 4th quarter. Yates into the game by the 4th quarter. AJ gets to rest in the 4th too, Martin in as WR1 and Jean and Walter clean up the scraps alongside Martin.
Dolphins try to catch up, but the Texans D is straight up hammering them from all angles.
Final score: 34 Texans - Dolphins 17
Nolan gets dropped off the Fins' roster on the Monday after. Gets picked up by our week 2 opponent.
1. Miami has 18 games worth of film regarding the Texans'/Wade's defense from last season. That's way more "data" than they can extract from Troy Nolan in less than a week.
2. If Troy was proficient enough to have any valuable insight into how this defense really worked maybe he'd still be here
3. ...and besides, knowing what's coming (or thinking you know what's coming) and having the ability to do anything about it are two very different things.
TdotTexas2Step
Rookie
1. Miami has 18 games worth of film regarding the Texans'/Wade's defense from last season. That's way more "data" than they can extract from Troy Nolan in less than a week.
2. If Troy was proficient enough to have any valuable insight into how this defense really worked maybe he'd still be here
3. ...and besides, knowing what's coming (or thinking you know what's coming) and having the ability to do anything about it are two very different things.
I'll take a stab then.
1. Very true, but Nolan will be able to give them details that you typically wouldn't be able to get from tape. Whether it's audibles, how they approach certain scenarios, how they go about disguising coverage, etc. If anything, it allows Miami to be more efficient, instead of spending 4 days to dissect the Texans D, it may take 3 days instead. It won't result in a win for Miami, but you can't blame them for trying.
2. I'd actually love for this to be the case. But Nolan could have been cut mainly because he couldn't execute, it doesn't mean he doesn't have any insight on our D. If you can't play, you coach - that's what Miami's thinking here with Nolan. Still think Nolan should be here over Keo
3. This I have no issues with and totally agree. The biggest impact it might have is that it could affect someone like Mercilus who's still learning the defense, and can't be worried with the extra wrinkles and adjustments Wade throws in specifically for this week.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
The first thing to remember is that WE are fans. We are not the Texans. We don't have to take anyone seriously... because... what we think and do doesn't really matter. All those things about taking 1 game at a time and not looking at the schedule and all that, those are things for PLAYERS to think, not fans. We can look at the schedule. We can look ahead.
If you think that Kubiak and Wade are not taking that Dolphins team seriously, then you've got another think coming.
I seriously doubt The Dolphins wasted a spot on their 53 in an attempt to learn Wade's defense or to pick up things about the players. I think they signed Troy because he was better than what they had. Wade's defense is not so complicated that they couldn't figure out the majority of it just from looking at film. His defense relies more on him creating mismatches in his play-calls than something complicated built into the structure of the defense (as opposed to the Frank Bush approach.)
Teaching a ROOKIE QB to read that defense, otoh, is going to be a challenge.
Now, personally, I'm not going to predict any huge victory or anything. I've got to see this offensive line operate in a real game before I get to comfy, but that's just me. I'm sure there are fans on some Dolphins boards coming over here, reading this thread, and thinking "WTF are these guys smoking?" OTOH, I'm sure they've probably got a Prediction thread where they're predicting kicking our asses. That's just the way fandom works. No biggie.
EVOLVIST
Kid A
I know it might be just for a laugh but I'm glad some people have stepped up to debunk the Nolan Conspiracy.
The facts are, though, people, is that Wade's been running essentially the same defense since the 70s with variations to reflect offensive trends in the NFL. Therefore, it's no secret what Wade's going to do - the secret is how Wade's going to do it, which is why you never know where the pressure is coming from, what coverages are disguised, etc. Plus, so much of Wade's defense is based upon using the specific skillsets of the players he has at his disposal. That changes yearly, creating new wrinkles by default.
So, there are decades of Wade's defenses to watch. Have at it...and good luck!
The facts are, though, people, is that Wade's been running essentially the same defense since the 70s with variations to reflect offensive trends in the NFL. Therefore, it's no secret what Wade's going to do - the secret is how Wade's going to do it, which is why you never know where the pressure is coming from, what coverages are disguised, etc. Plus, so much of Wade's defense is based upon using the specific skillsets of the players he has at his disposal. That changes yearly, creating new wrinkles by default.
So, there are decades of Wade's defenses to watch. Have at it...and good luck!
Bulls on Parade
2017 Astros: Earn It!
My Week 1 prediction
Texans 34, Dolphins 6
No TD's allowed!!!! Hold them to a couple of field goals.
Texans 34, Dolphins 6
No TD's allowed!!!! Hold them to a couple of field goals.
I'll take a stab then.
1. Very true, but Nolan will be able to give them details that you typically wouldn't be able to get from tape. Whether it's audibles, how they approach certain scenarios, how they go about disguising coverage, etc. If anything, it allows Miami to be more efficient, instead of spending 4 days to dissect the Texans D, it may take 3 days instead. It won't result in a win for Miami, but you can't blame them for trying.
2. I'd actually love for this to be the case. But Nolan could have been cut mainly because he couldn't execute, it doesn't mean he doesn't have any insight on our D. If you can't play, you coach - that's what Miami's thinking here with Nolan. Still think Nolan should be here over Keo
3. This I have no issues with and totally agree. The biggest impact it might have is that it could affect someone like Mercilus who's still learning the defense, and can't be worried with the extra wrinkles and adjustments Wade throws in specifically for this week.
I'd offer re-rebuttal for numbers 1 & 2 but we both know that number 3 trumps all. It'll be especially challenging for Miami because, as someone else mentioned, they're trotting out a rookie QB, their "stud" RB is Reggie Bush(league), and Naanee is the only WR whose name I quasi-recognize.
The only reason I won't predict a rout is the propensity of our offense to start slow at times. Especially when the opponent isn't a perceived rival (see Manning Colts or Fisher's Titans) or perceived "statement game".
I see a 24-10 or maybe 27-14 outcome. We go scoreless for most of the first qtr then get take a 10-3 or 13-7 lead into halftime. Kubiak chews some butt at the half and we get 14 to 21 pts in the third/early fourth qtr. And then Kubiak runs out the clock for the remainder of the game. Maybe Holliday or the the defense adds to the final score somewhere along the way.
If this game is remotely close, the soapers come out of hibernation.
False Start
On # 69
Texans - 28
Dolphins - 17
Dolphins - 17
bayoudreamn
Rookie
1st quarter....Schaub drives team down field for early TD....7-0 Texans...
....Miami 3 and out......2 yards gained.
....Texans move ball on 2nd drive but kick field goal.....10-0.
2nd quarter.....sloppy early for both teams.....Texans D comes up big with pick 6 late for 17-0 halftime lead. Miami has 50 yards total offense.
3rd quarter....Texans flat......Dolphins threaten a couple of times before punching it in late on short drive for a TD.....17-7. Miami adds 135 yards total offense in 3rd quarter.
Texans D pitches shutout rest of way giving offense short field for one field goal and offense drives close enough for another....final score 23-7. Ryan Tannehill gets confused and tries to go to airport with Texans.
After the game GK says he saw alot of good things and he'll have to wait to see the tape before knowing how anyone did. Says they have some things they need to clean up and they'll do that tomorrow and vaguely implies that some people need to play better.
....Miami 3 and out......2 yards gained.
....Texans move ball on 2nd drive but kick field goal.....10-0.
2nd quarter.....sloppy early for both teams.....Texans D comes up big with pick 6 late for 17-0 halftime lead. Miami has 50 yards total offense.
3rd quarter....Texans flat......Dolphins threaten a couple of times before punching it in late on short drive for a TD.....17-7. Miami adds 135 yards total offense in 3rd quarter.
Texans D pitches shutout rest of way giving offense short field for one field goal and offense drives close enough for another....final score 23-7. Ryan Tannehill gets confused and tries to go to airport with Texans.
After the game GK says he saw alot of good things and he'll have to wait to see the tape before knowing how anyone did. Says they have some things they need to clean up and they'll do that tomorrow and vaguely implies that some people need to play better.
TejasTom
All Pro
Herring has coached with Wade for years and he can't call the defense a good. Wade's defense is not complex, there's not a lot to figure out and it's not new.
Knowing how all the chess pieces move doesn't make you good at chess.
Run away from Watt, Cushing and throw towards Kareem.
Posted using Tapatalk from my phone. May contain errors.
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
Mike Munchak, being mind controlled by evil Darth Adams, runs out into the field in the 1st quarter and steps on Schaubs foot. TJ comes in but injures his shoulder. Beck comes in and hands off to Foster and Tate the rest of the game and we win 94-0. Afterwards in the press conference, Beck trips over the podium and is out for the season. Case Keenum is the starting quarterback and the Texans win the Super Bowl 140-0 over Dallas. The Cowboys are then moved to LA, but unfortunately the entire team perishes when the San Andres fault slips.
GlassHalfFull
Hall of Fame
Only issue I have with this prediction. Didn't you mean fortunately?
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
Must have been a typo.
GP
Go Texans!
To me, it's not that Nolan can/can't give the Fins information on us.
It's that Nolan stooped to that level for a paycheck. We signed Ryan Harris because we genuinely needed an OL, not because we needed to get an advantage for our game vs. the Broncos.
Nolan was picked up for the explicit purpose of helping the Fins get an advantage against us. It won't work, but the Dolphins tried it. Nolan is going through with it. And he has no long-term future with the Dolphins.
Jeff Ireland is a sleaze bag, so it doesn't surprise me they'd do it. The Titans are sleaze bags, grabbing Orlovsky when we cut him last year. It's a sleaze bag move no matter how you slice it.
The only team I can remember doing this, that didn't seem like it was done on purpose to gain an advantage against us, was when Sage went to the Giants. The Giants dismantled us like no other team has in Kubiak's tenure here. They knew everything we were going to do before we did it. Nothing worked. It was a really, really bad day for Kubiak's offense.
It's a futile last-ditch effort by the Fins and it won't matter. They're going to get demolished. And like others have said, the real fun starts when we play the Broncos. The Fins? They are horribly outmatched.
It's that Nolan stooped to that level for a paycheck. We signed Ryan Harris because we genuinely needed an OL, not because we needed to get an advantage for our game vs. the Broncos.
Nolan was picked up for the explicit purpose of helping the Fins get an advantage against us. It won't work, but the Dolphins tried it. Nolan is going through with it. And he has no long-term future with the Dolphins.
Jeff Ireland is a sleaze bag, so it doesn't surprise me they'd do it. The Titans are sleaze bags, grabbing Orlovsky when we cut him last year. It's a sleaze bag move no matter how you slice it.
The only team I can remember doing this, that didn't seem like it was done on purpose to gain an advantage against us, was when Sage went to the Giants. The Giants dismantled us like no other team has in Kubiak's tenure here. They knew everything we were going to do before we did it. Nothing worked. It was a really, really bad day for Kubiak's offense.
It's a futile last-ditch effort by the Fins and it won't matter. They're going to get demolished. And like others have said, the real fun starts when we play the Broncos. The Fins? They are horribly outmatched.
Playoffs
Hall of Fame
So he should turn down work?
Gp, this is far fetched. You think Bruce Matthews didn't divulge info when he went to the titans? Orvlosky to the colts?
Heck, we have picked up players and faced their old teams.
It's a part of the NFL. Guys change teams all the time, coaches and players. It's not anything new. You just have to deal with it.
Painting Nolan as some sinister person when he was CLAIMED off waivers is ridiculous.
Is he supposed to retire or not play because The dolphins are our first opponent. He's supposed to show that level of loyalty to the team that just cut him?
Troy won't be here for this week of game planning. He will know some of our defensive pre snap signals/calls though But he's not going to be on the field with the offense so it doesn't really matter.
He can divulge some information about their plays and some things we like to do, but most of this stuff the dolphins can gather from watching film.
This is not a big deal.
Can he help them? Sure. Will it be the difference between a win and a loss? Hopefully not. Otherwise we aren't as good as we need to be.
GP
Go Texans!
Meh. I wouldn't begrudge the guy a paycheck.
Gotta pay the bills, I understand that.
I'm talking about the FAN in me. As a Texans fan, I just don't like that sort of bull**** from ex-Texans players. I am not saying it should be made illegal, but maybe the league should clamp down on it and say that you cannot claim a waived player from Team A if your team, Team B, plays Team A the following week.
Example: Dolphins cannot claim ANY waived/cut Texans player until after the conclusion of the Texans-Dolphins game. You guys genuinely think they'd want to pick him up AFTER they're done playing us this coming Sunday??? I doubt it.
Make a team realllllly think hard about putting in that claim for the player of the team you want information on. You willing to sit on that player for 2, 3, 4, or more weeks until the time comes for you to play the team you're snooping on? Fine by me. But not a one-week turnaround. Screw that, IMO. I don't think it's too much for the league to crack down on one-week turnaround snitch jobs.
Gotta pay the bills, I understand that.
I'm talking about the FAN in me. As a Texans fan, I just don't like that sort of bull**** from ex-Texans players. I am not saying it should be made illegal, but maybe the league should clamp down on it and say that you cannot claim a waived player from Team A if your team, Team B, plays Team A the following week.
Example: Dolphins cannot claim ANY waived/cut Texans player until after the conclusion of the Texans-Dolphins game. You guys genuinely think they'd want to pick him up AFTER they're done playing us this coming Sunday??? I doubt it.
Make a team realllllly think hard about putting in that claim for the player of the team you want information on. You willing to sit on that player for 2, 3, 4, or more weeks until the time comes for you to play the team you're snooping on? Fine by me. But not a one-week turnaround. Screw that, IMO. I don't think it's too much for the league to crack down on one-week turnaround snitch jobs.
Hey, just because you're paranoid does not mean they aren't out to get ya!!
Seriously, though, I really don't see a problem with this. Either of our coordinators could really punk out the other team with just a couple of wrinkles if they're overly worried about Nolan giving the fins the inside scoop on anything.
GP you're taking the 
to a new level with this one .... Nolan was going to get picked up as soon as he got cut , just so happens it was the sushi's.
I believe that the cuts in the secondary were tough and whoever got the axe would have been picked up by another team , thats why they chose to trade McManis rather than cut one of he and Carmichael and get nothing in return.
Keo's the better ST player .... that made Nolan the odd man out since Demps is the next guy off the bench and Pleasant played well in the preseason landing him on the PS .... they werent going to keep 6 at the S spot.
to a new level with this one .... Nolan was going to get picked up as soon as he got cut , just so happens it was the sushi's.I believe that the cuts in the secondary were tough and whoever got the axe would have been picked up by another team , thats why they chose to trade McManis rather than cut one of he and Carmichael and get nothing in return.
Keo's the better ST player .... that made Nolan the odd man out since Demps is the next guy off the bench and Pleasant played well in the preseason landing him on the PS .... they werent going to keep 6 at the S spot.
rush2112mn
Rookie
Texans 35 Dolphins 0