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Old 09-01-2012   #21
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Has he been given and passed his physical this soon? 3 back surgeries is nothing to minimize. The reason that he was available and probably not heavy on the pocket book is the same reason we probably won't have him on the field for too long.
Suppose to take his physical tomorrow. I'm worried about that back of his as well
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This is a nice signing if he passes the physical and can stay healthy.
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This is a nice signing if he passes the physical and can stay healthy.
thats a big IF tho

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Has he been given and passed his physical this soon?
I think that is pending, but expected to be a formality since he played the whole game Thursday.
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I am glad they addressed the situation. You bring in a guy who knows the zone blocking scheme so he has familiarity with it. This is a good safe pick if you ask me.
I have yet to question Rick Smith and his scout teams yet. They have a done a great job of bringing in guys who can contribute.

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I think that is pending, but expected to be a formality since he played the whole game Thursday.
That Broncos offense was pretty sick that day. I don't think they had one 3rd down conversion in the 1st half? Maybe allowing 5 or 6 sacks. And I don't think they scored any offensive TD during the entire game. Not sure that I'd be too impressed with anyone's Oline performance that game. The Broncos gave him up for some reason other than they were overloaded with talent at that position.
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How much did he cost?
Most likely one tenth to one fifth of what Winston cost.
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How much did he cost?
Most likely vet minimum, and given his injury history, it may be a split contract. So it would only be guaranteed if he plays in X number of games before getting injured. We shall see, but a healthy, experienced RT would be nice.

Sad thing is, I think the Texans could have been well off by cutting Butler instead of Winston. Now it's Butlers 1.3 million salary plus this guys 540k cap hit versus Winston's 4.5 million (Newton at swing T for min). Only a 2.7 mill difference now, and that may go down if Harris doesn't make it through the season or we trade for another RT.

Coulda, woulda, shoulda...
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And scouts around the league believe those surgeries have taken their toll, that Harris doesn't play with the athleticism and flexibility in his hips that he did early in his career.

Read more: Where does Ryan Harris fit in Broncos offensive line? - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci...#ixzz25HEjFifB
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I'm really concerned about bolded as 3 back surgeries is risky in a pick up. There was bound to have been some welding going on the spine. I expect him to have recurring back pain and some neuropathy. I see DEs & OLBs running around him easily. If he is best we can do better hope Brown and Newton remain healthy. I am reconsidering my first round in 2013. And one preseason game is not that impressive just a possible insight as back will get tight and more painful with more plays.
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Most likely vet minimum, and given his injury history, it may be a split contract. So it would only be guaranteed if he plays in X number of games before getting injured. We shall see, but a healthy, experienced RT would be nice.

Sad thing is, I think the Texans could have been well off by cutting Butler instead of Winston. Now it's Butlers 1.3 million salary plus this guys 540k cap hit versus Winston's 4.5 million (Newton at swing T for min). Only a 2.7 mill difference now, and that may go down if Harris doesn't make it through the season or we trade for another RT.

Coulda, woulda, shoulda...
If they cut Butler instead of Winston - back when those cuts had to be made - then that still would have left us with 3.2 mil worth of cuts to make elsewhere. Who would you have given up back then?
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If they cut Butler instead of Winston - back when those cuts had to be made - then that still would have left us with 3.2 mil worth of cuts to make elsewhere. Who would you have given up back then?


They didn't have to do anything to get under the cap because AJ restructured his deal a few days prior to Winston and Lienarts release. I think Myers was signed a couple weeks later too, so his 3-4 million caphit wasn't included either. NFL.com says we had over 4 million free in July: http://m.nfl.com/news/09000d5d82a421db/

All the cap space story was BS to make the fans less angry. So cutting Butler instead would have put us around 800k in space in July, but since he's on IR we have another spot to fill for 540k. That means we would be around 1.34 million in space if we had kept Winston and cut the backup, as opposed to 4mill, minus the new guys cost.
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They didn't have to do anything to get under the cap because AJ restructured his deal a few days prior to Winston and Lienarts release. I think Myers was signed a couple weeks later too, so his 3-4 million caphit wasn't included either. NFL.com says we had over 4 million free in July: http://m.nfl.com/news/09000d5d82a421db/

All the cap space story was BS to make the fans less angry. So cutting Butler instead would have put us around 800k in space in July, but since he's on IR we have another spot to fill for 540k. That means we would be around 1.34 million in space if we had kept Winston and cut the backup, as opposed to 4mill, minus the new guys cost.
So you're saying Uncle Bob directed his employees to lie to his potential customers??
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anybody remember seeing this guy on mtv true life..
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Hahaha, yep.
From a 2003 article I dug up.

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The TV star says he has some goals set for him this year. "My goal is to be a Freshman All-American and win the Heisman Trophy. Now, I don't want that to sound like I think I am coming in thinking I'm going to play or start. I just think you need to set your goals as high as they can be and you shoot for them. I don't know if I will even play but I am going to work as hard as anyone who will become an All-American. I just want to contribute in any way I can. I hope to get some minutes playing and I would love to end up being second team or even starting."

Harris has always set his goals high and continues to do that. He has goals set far beyond football. "I will probably major in administration or management. I will probably look into a foriegn language as well but I might also look into Political science."

The political science major is something he has talked about before when discussing his dream to be the U.S. President. "It's still a dream and something I'm very serious about. I'm not kidding in the slightest. I think I could be a great president. I'm seriously going to run for President. I am counting on your vote." If Ryan ever runs, he has my vote.

Ryan Harris is going to be a fan-favorite. He is dead-serious about running for President and he has the ambition and personality to win. I am really going to enjoy following Harris at Notre Dame and in life after football.
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By what Week do you feel Ryan Harris will be starting? Have most of us lost confidence in Derek Newton this fast? It's not even Week 1 yet. I'm still hoping Newton can prove he belongs as a starting Right Tackle in this league. Then again I'm trusting Gary Kubiak when he says that. And is it just me or does Derek Newton look and talk exactly like DeMeco Ryans? Take away the long hair of course.
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We are going to learn very quickly what Newt is made of because a week from today he's gonna be going up against the 'Phins Cameron Wake, who's a big-time pass-rusher. In the meantime the Texans maybe have a plan B they aren't saying too much about if Newt fails, which is moving Wade Smith to RT (he's got a resume which has him with tackle experience when still with the Chiefs), and moving rookie Ben Jones into the lineup to fill Smith's position at LG. If you haven't been paying that much attention to the Georgia rookie you may have missed him playing guard the other night when he was very impressive.
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