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Old 09-05-2012   #41
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wow, can't believe y'all got whooped by the bobcats.

does uh have a depth chart? curious because my former teammate is a player there.
Check out the rivals.com team site for UH, it should be there but I think it's only Rivals best guess.

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We tried that once and it was an utter fail. Thanks but no thanks. Its whomever the coach is at UH's job is to win games not prepare players for the pros. We can't recruit the top level talent it takes to run a pro set. When UH has been successful its because we have used an offense that equalizes the talent when we play more talented teams.
I forgot the name of the coach but he moved away from recruiting Houston-area guys to players outside the city and that's the reason why it wasn't a success.

The key to having a successful football program is to have a decision maker that knows a thing or two about football. Take for example Michigan post-Carr era:

They had a five-star rated quarterback in Ryan Mallet who was the next best thing and yet, they go out and hire Rich Rodriguez whose offense requires a speedy, mobile quarterback instead of a pure pro-style player.

The city of Houston could also help by improving the area around UH and UH can also try to make the school more attractive (e.g. better dorms, more assistance for players, something along these lines).

Coaches have to be able to either A.) Sell the program (e.g. Alabama) or B.) Sell the school and let the school's reputation be the convincing factor (e.g. Michigan, Cal-Berkley) or both.

Besides this, you will end up with one to two-star athletes who just want to play ball and attend classes and most likely won't be top-rated NFL players.
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Kim Helton is the coach you are thinking of. One of the worst coaches in the history of college football.
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Kim Helton is the coach you are thinking of. One of the worst coaches in the history of college football.
Kim Helton........... The WORST ever!!!
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Kim Helton is the coach you are thinking of. One of the worst coaches in the history of college football.
His record may suck but he did attempt to turn UH football towards a different direction and unfortunately it didn't work out.

UH needs to move away from their pass-heavy offense and either have a balanced spread attack a la Ohio State or turn into a spread offense with zone reads like West Virginia under Rich Rodriguez.

That and hire a DC who can recruit and get the right types of players on the team. No more linebackers that are built like safeties.

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His record may suck but he did attempt to turn UH football towards a different direction and unfortunately it didn't work out.

UH needs to move away from their pass-heavy offense and either have a balanced spread attack a la Ohio State or turn into a spread offense with zone reads like West Virginia under Rich Rodriguez.

That and hire a DC who can recruit and get the right types of players on the team. No more linebackers that are built like safeties.

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Dude, OSU was a terrible mention. Understood what you meant by a more balanced attack, and that's a viable argument BUT OSU? Really??? We don't play in the "stuck in the mud" Big 10.
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Dude, OSU was a terrible mention. Understood what you meant by a more balanced attack, and that's a viable argument BUT OSU? Really??? We don't play in the "stuck in the mud" Big 10.
LOL, OSU was a bad mention. It came up in my mind because they run a spread offense with a solid running game (or that's what they did pre-Urban Meyer era).
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His record may suck but he did attempt to turn UH football towards a different direction and unfortunately it didn't work out.

UH needs to move away from their pass-heavy offense and either have a balanced spread attack a la Ohio State or turn into a spread offense with zone reads like West Virginia under Rich Rodriguez.

That and hire a DC who can recruit and get the right types of players on the team. No more linebackers that are built like safeties.

Just my thoughts...
You do realize UH is in CUSA right?? UH has never been able to go into the 5 star recruits homes and get them away from the major powers it was like that in the SWC days and its especially true today. That's why UH when it was most successful did it with talent that the other schools missed out on. They did it with WR who weren't 6'3 and built like Andre Johnson. They did it by turning 5'7 former QB Jason Phillips into an all american. They did it with a QB like Andre Ware who every other school that recruited him wanted to turn him into a DB. UH is not Ohio St it doesn't have the money from alums that those major powers have and I doubt it will even be close in my lifetime. We have to grab guys that the big schools misjudge and from the guys who slip through the cracks and get coached up.
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We tried that once and it was an utter fail. Thanks but no thanks. Its whomever the coach is at UH's job is to win games not prepare players for the pros. We can't recruit the top level talent it takes to run a pro set. When UH has been successful its because we have used an offense that equalizes the talent when we play more talented teams.
And that is why better players are going elsewhere to increase chances in pros.
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You do realize UH is in CUSA right?? UH has never been able to go into the 5 star recruits homes and get them away from the major powers it was like that in the SWC days and its especially true today. That's why UH when it was most successful did it with talent that the other schools missed out on. They did it with WR who weren't 6'3 and built like Andre Johnson. They did it by turning 5'7 former QB Jason Phillips into an all american. They did it with a QB like Andre Ware who every other school that recruited him wanted to turn him into a DB. UH is not Ohio St it doesn't have the money from alums that those major powers have and I doubt it will even be close in my lifetime. We have to grab guys that the big schools misjudge and from the guys who slip through the cracks and get coached up.
How did those guys do in pros? You made my point that players go to UH only if no other better choice.
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Too soon?

I'm sure they'll get it sorted out.
It's easier just to quote this. It pretty much spells it out....



However....
.I would love to eat crow if Levine can turn this thing around
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I just thought about this, but the oc that "resigned" was the coach for my brothers team.

I remember watching games and just thinking how bad he sucked. Absolutely awful play calling.

I was talking about it with my brother today.
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Damn Rey, why didn't you say something? It's Rey's fault.
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Damn Rey, why didn't you say something? It's Rey's fault.





LOL...For some reason it didn't click with me until today when he asked me if I heard about the UH OC...

Stephen F Austin is better off without him...

Can't say this enough, but he is an awful play caller. I don't understand why he gets jobs.
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Dang Keenum made this team so much better, where are all the big plays at ?
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Dline and secondary are terrible, along with this new QB. Man this team is miles away from being good
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Pretty sure i just proved my entire point about the dline and secondary in one play haha
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Dang Keenum made this team so much better, where are all the big plays at ?
Sumlin deserves some credit too.
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agree but lord, cant tackle cant catch, you call slants all night for 5-8 yards and then on 4th down u decide lets throw it over their heads, i mean really ???
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LA is calling the same 3 plays over and over and over haha and we cant stop them.
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I'm kind of ashamed at what UH is putting on the field this year. After all the hard work and effort that's gone into getting the program to have a pulse again we step into 2012 with everything to play for and yet these guys look like some Kim Helton/Dana Dimmel teams. Like you said Ellis, "can't tackle, can't catch". This isn't good enough. This is where you either continue to go forward and take the team to the next level or slink back into your hole and putz around for another few years. Looks like the Cougars are happy to get their new stadium and putz around.
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