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76Texan · 09-07-2012

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Originally Posted by Maddict5

dont really see how playing with scrubs affected his game much if at all. its not like the rb was getting tackled before he could make his block. he was playing against scrubs too...

i just saw much more pop from norris in our 4th game. that being said, norris cant catch while clutts can

First of all, let's not forget that even if we take out the 49-yd run (Clutts did his job well on this play), the Bears still averaged almost 4.2 ypc on the other 30 carries.

The thing about playing with scrubs is that often times, they do not win at the POA (for just a little bit, even with a double-team or a combo block) to allow the lead blocker (the FB) a better or quicker path to his block.

Those combo or double-team blocks are better executed by linemen that play together for a period of time.
The srcub D-lineman has a littler easier time as compared to the regular starter.

Trust me, I've seen Clutts put up many key blocks (with pop) last year to spring the runner free for a long gain or a TD.

Different sets of game analyst/commentators had many good things to say about Clutts. The guys from the Browns for example, wanted Clutts badly.

Personally, I was somewhat surprised that the Bears HC Lovie Smith doesn't regard the running game highly.
I guess he thinks Cutler is more suited for the spread offense and also it seems that he likes to have more guys in the Casey mode to open up the offense instead of grinding it out like the Texans did last year.

76Texan · 09-07-2012

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Originally Posted by HOU-TEX

To me, Hester is a lesser Casey. He does the same sort of things as Casey, just not as good. I'm not sure what position he fits best. Is he a FB? An H back? More like a tweener of the two? Who know, but I'd pass on him. I liked Hester coming out of LSU too

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Originally Posted by Rey

I think both Hester and Casey are hybrids, but I see Hester as fb/rb hybrid and Casey as more of a TE/fb hybrid. I think they could play all the same positions, but I think Hester is a bit more of a rb and Casey is a bit more of a TE.

I'd dump ball and pick up Hester in a heart beat. He provides versatlitu and special teams ability much like Casey.

If Arian or Tate get nicked up then you're down to two rb's. If you have Hester on the roster he could take some carries behind Forsett. If a TE or fb got nicked he could step in and help there too so we wouldn't have to change what we do too drastically.

Problem is Hester doesn't have the speed and agility to play RB now that he put on some weight since college.

It's hard to see Hester pressing the line and make the cut in our scheme.

I don't think he's a good fit as a RB.

And if we're down to 2 RBs, we can always bring Grimes up; he's a guy that you (Rey) likes to begin with.

There's a point of diminishing return with "too much" versatility, especially when you have a good team.

CloakNNNdagger · 09-07-2012

I'm concerned that when you try to introduce that "very versatile player," many times you tend to not properly utilize your consistently best and strongest options.

**Playoffs** · 10-10-2012

Flipping back through old topics...

Has Clutts done anything of note for us, yet? I don't believe I've heard his name called?

robroy72 · 10-10-2012

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Originally Posted by Playoffs

Flipping back through old topics...

Has Clutts done anything of note for us, yet? I don't believe I've heard his name called?

You read my mind ... I was about to ask the same thing.

**Section516** · 10-10-2012

Casey's blocking seems to have improved, along with his play making ability..Be hard for a pure FB to make it in.

thunderkyss · 10-10-2012

Has McMannis done anything?

76Texan · 10-10-2012

Clutts has done nothing of note, but he did play.

According to Football Outsiders, he was in on 30 something snaps on ST (I lost count since I had to tally the snap counts on each game individually.)

He also played 9 snaps on offense, on the last drive of two games.

In week 2 against the Jaguars, he played 7 snaps.
I counted 3 pretty good to good block, 1 so-so block, and 1 not-so-good/somewhat-poor block, and 2 kneel-downs to end the game.

In week 4 against the Titans, he was in for the 2 kneel-downs.

Nothing has changed from my perspective.
Clutts is good depth.

76Texan · 10-10-2012

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Originally Posted by Fiddler

Has McMannis done anything?

So far he played strictly on ST for the Bears, some 80 total snaps in 5 games.

**badboy** · 10-10-2012

Clutts is cheap insurance for our running game as a blocker.

**Playoffs** · 10-10-2012

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Originally Posted by 76Texan

Clutts has done nothing of note, but he did play.

According to Football Outsiders, he was in on 30 something snaps on ST (I lost count since I had to tally the snap counts on each game individually.)

He also played 9 snaps on offense, on the last drive of two games.

In week 2 against the Jaguars, he played 7 snaps.
I counted 3 pretty good to good block, 1 so-so block, and 1 not-so-good/somewhat-poor block, and 2 kneel-downs to end the game.

In week 4 against the Titans, he was in for the 2 kneel-downs.

Nothing has changed from my perspective.
Clutts is good depth.

Thanks 76T, MSR.

**PapaL** · 10-10-2012

What # does he wear? I honestly can't place him at all.

**Playoffs** · 10-10-2012

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Originally Posted by PapaL

What # does he wear? I honestly can't place him at all.

76Texan · 10-10-2012

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Originally Posted by PapaL

What # does he wear? I honestly can't place him at all.

Clutts wears #40.

Like I said, the most number of offensive snaps he saw was in week 2.
In week 4, he was in for 2 kneels down and he was standing close to the line, it's hard to see him.

I saw that playoffs already posts a pix just before I post this, haha!

paycheck71 · 10-10-2012

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Originally Posted by Playoffs

Flipping back through old topics...

Has Clutts done anything of note for us, yet? I don't believe I've heard his name called?

The only time I saw him was before Monday night's game when he was warming up catching balls next to either Schaub or TJ and then handing them to the QB.

**PapaL** · 10-10-2012

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Originally Posted by Playoffs

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Originally Posted by 76Texan

Clutts wears #40.

Like I said, the most number of offensive snaps he saw was in week 2.
In week 4, he was in for 2 kneels down and he was standing close to the line, it's hard to see him.

I saw that playoffs already posts a pix just before I post this, haha!

Much obliged...

09-07-2012	#83
CloakNNNdagger Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 12,483 Rep Power: 44061	Re: McManis traded to Bears for FB Clutts I'm concerned that when you try to introduce that "very versatile player," many times you tend to not properly utilize your consistently best and strongest options.

10-10-2012	#84
Playoffs Subscribed Contributor Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 7,299 Rep Power: 52089	Re: McManis traded to Bears for FB Clutts Flipping back through old topics... Has Clutts done anything of note for us, yet? I don't believe I've heard his name called?

10-10-2012	#86
Section516 Warrior Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,259 Rep Power: 5023	Re: McManis traded to Bears for FB Clutts Casey's blocking seems to have improved, along with his play making ability..Be hard for a pure FB to make it in. __________________ Get there by kickoff.

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thunderkyss Hopkins Beyatch Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Pt Arthur Texas Age: 40 Posts: 25,756 Rep Power: 51540	Re: McManis traded to Bears for FB Clutts Has McMannis done anything? __________________ I swear it's for real this time!

10-10-2012	#88
76Texan Hall of Fame Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,672 Rep Power: 27383	Re: McManis traded to Bears for FB Clutts Clutts has done nothing of note, but he did play. According to Football Outsiders, he was in on 30 something snaps on ST (I lost count since I had to tally the snap counts on each game individually.) He also played 9 snaps on offense, on the last drive of two games. In week 2 against the Jaguars, he played 7 snaps. I counted 3 pretty good to good block, 1 so-so block, and 1 not-so-good/somewhat-poor block, and 2 kneel-downs to end the game. In week 4 against the Titans, he was in for the 2 kneel-downs. Nothing has changed from my perspective. Clutts is good depth.

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badboy Site Contributor Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Clear Lake Posts: 19,042 Rep Power: 30949	Re: McManis traded to Bears for FB Clutts Clutts is cheap insurance for our running game as a blocker. __________________ The sound of marine engines and superchargers soon shall fill the air!

10-10-2012	#92
PapaL Loose Screw Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Maryland Age: 32 Posts: 8,652 Rep Power: 17130	What # does he wear? I honestly can't place him at all. __________________ Tried and true, I'm rep'in Texan (Steel) Blue.

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