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Am I the only one disappointed in those guys?

Supposed to be quality backups, what happened?

I realize that the two Viking backup qb's had lots of experience but damn.

Did anyone step up? Vanilla. I realize. But mano a mano we got manhandled.


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Random question, had anyone else heard the name DJ Bryant before last night? I don't recall seeing anyone discuss him before the game.
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Am I the only one disappointed in those guys?

Supposed to be quality backups, what happened?

I realize that the two Viking backup qb's had lots of experience but damn.

Did anyone step up? Vanilla. I realize. But mano a mano we got manhandled.


I think when you have second and third teamers starting the game, you're not going to get comments on the defense as a whole, but mostly on individual players. In that vein, I've seen plenty of folks expressing great disappointment in several players with Keo clearly leading that parade.
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Random question, had anyone else heard the name DJ Bryant before last night? I don't recall seeing anyone discuss him before the game.
Cat playing LDE? He looked surprisingly good. I wonder if he sticks.
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Cat playing LDE? He looked surprisingly good. I wonder if he sticks.
Small sample, but I hope we ps Pleasant.

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Am I the only one disappointed in those guys?

Supposed to be quality backups, what happened?

I realize that the two Viking backup qb's had lots of experience but damn.

Did anyone step up? Vanilla. I realize. But mano a mano we got manhandled.


Take a look at scores around the league for Week 4 preseason.

Then consider the fact that the peak for many of these guys' careers is playing special teams in the regular season.
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Am I the only one disappointed in those guys?

Supposed to be quality backups, what happened?

I realize that the two Viking backup qb's had lots of experience but damn.

Did anyone step up? Vanilla. I realize. But mano a mano we got manhandled.


Shilo Kio gave up 300 yards by himself...
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Shilo Kio gave up 300 yards by himself...
No, he didn't.

The highligts on the 3 longest plays by the Vikings were in this thread.
It looks to me like Harris had some poor plays (besides other guys).

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Random question, had anyone else heard the name DJ Bryant before last night? I don't recall seeing anyone discuss him before the game.
Actually, DJ Bryant had quietely put together 4 good games.
I saw good tapes on him in all 4 games, and was focusing on him during this game.

I think he deserves at least a PS spot.
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Random question, had anyone else heard the name DJ Bryant before last night? I don't recall seeing anyone discuss him before the game.
He's looked good in the first couple of preseason games. I don't think there's been a lot of buzz about him but I really liked what I saw from him in those games. He was getting good pressure... against scrubs, admittedly. The coaching staff seems to like him. I think there's a big question about him and Nading and either/or.
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He's looked good in the first couple of preseason games. I don't think there's been a lot of buzz about him but I really liked what I saw from him in those games. He was getting good pressure... against scrubs, admittedly. The coaching staff seems to like him. I think there's a big question about him and Nading and either/or.
He had a QB pressure in the Saints game also.
I think he was around the play a few.

Many young guys showed flashes here and there, but it looks to me like Bryant had quite a few more flashes.

I guess you can say that he was consistent through all 4 games.
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Actually, DJ Bryant had quietely put together 4 good games.
I saw good tapes on him in all 4 games, and was focusing on him during this game.

I think he deserves at least a PS spot.
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He's looked good in the first couple of preseason games. I don't think there's been a lot of buzz about him but I really liked what I saw from him in those games. He was getting good pressure... against scrubs, admittedly. The coaching staff seems to like him. I think there's a big question about him and Nading and either/or.
I recall seeing his name on some roster sheets and such, but never really paid attention to him. I don't recall seeing anyone around here discuss him outside of the gameday threads where his name would be mentioned after making a tackle.

Anyways, he made 2+ sacks last night (1 called back due to a bad helmet-to-helmet call), and he had a lot of pressure on the QBs. He might be worth adding to the p-squad, since we don't really have any good d-lineman candidates for it.
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Yeah, I think he makes the taxi squad. He certainly impressed the last 2 games.
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He had a QB pressure in the Saints game also.
I think he was around the play a few.

Many young guys showed flashes here and there, but it looks to me like Bryant had quite a few more flashes.

I guess you can say that he was consistent through all 4 games.
I couldn't remember offhand if he played and flashed in the Saints game, so I left it out. I remembered being surprised and impressed with him in the Panther game.
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I couldn't remember offhand if he played and flashed in the Saints game, so I left it out. I remembered being surprised and impressed with him in the Panther game.
He was in on at least 3 positive plays that I notice:

1. A QB hit on Chase Daniels who managed to complete a 5yd pass.
2. He forced CD out of the pocket on another play; the QB ran for some 10 yards, but it wasn't Bryant's fault.
3. He came in (around the LT) right after R.Moore got to the QB Canfield from the other side (near the 2 min warning) to force an incompletion.
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No, he didn't.

The highligts on the 3 longest plays by the Vikings were in this thread.
It looks to me like Harris had some poor plays (besides other guys).

http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/sho...=93783&page=19
I thought Harris looked lost on at least two big plays.
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I thought Harris looked lost on at least two big plays.
It doesn't seem that ICAK agree, oh well, everybody is entitled to their opinion, I guess.
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It doesn't seem that ICAK agree, oh well, everybody is entitled to their opinion, I guess.
I saw only last half but one play Brandon started back with his guy but looked to his left & started that way only to fall back to cover his guy who was "gone". Safety (Nolan?) came over but was way too late.
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I saw only last half but one play Brandon started back with his guy but looked to his left & started that way only to fall back to cover his guy who was "gone". Safety (Nolan?) came over but was way too late.
I believe that happened twice, once with Nolan laying a hit on the big Vikes WR (Aromashadu I think), and again with Keo trying to come down to the sideline to cover the WR who was gone. I think both went for TDs too, but I haven't rewatched the game yet.
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I believe that happened twice, once with Nolan laying a hit on the big Vikes WR (Aromashadu I think), and again with Keo trying to come down to the sideline to cover the WR who was gone. I think both went for TDs too, but I haven't rewatched the game yet.
Yeape, in the other thread, I had the link to the highlights of both of those plays.

Also, I think Harris didn't do a good job on the 76yd TD run either.
I discussed that in the other thread as well.

Obviously, I don't put the blame solely on Harris.
But he did have safety help; he needs to use them correctly.
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