Go Back   Houston Texans Message Board & Forum - TexansTalk.com > The Great Fans of the Houston Texans > Texans Talk
Home Forums Register FAQDonate Automatic Monthly Contribution Members List Mark Forums Read


Texans Talk Football talk only please. Keep it to the game, the players, the coaches and management.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-31-2012   #81
SAMURAITEXAN 
Subscribed Contributor
 
SAMURAITEXAN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Posts: 3,298
Rep Power: 16963 SAMURAITEXAN is a quality contributor and well respectedSAMURAITEXAN is a quality contributor and well respectedSAMURAITEXAN is a quality contributor and well respectedSAMURAITEXAN is a quality contributor and well respectedSAMURAITEXAN is a quality contributor and well respectedSAMURAITEXAN is a quality contributor and well respectedSAMURAITEXAN is a quality contributor and well respectedSAMURAITEXAN is a quality contributor and well respectedSAMURAITEXAN is a quality contributor and well respectedSAMURAITEXAN is a quality contributor and well respectedSAMURAITEXAN is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: butler done for season

I hope, our other T back ups can be effective. Because, less likely to find a decent T from final roster cut FAs. The best way is to look hard at our current roster and find someone that is able to back up T position.
SAMURAITEXAN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2012   #82
Norg
Hall of Fame
 
Norg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 4,495
Rep Power: 11489 Norg is a quality contributor and well respectedNorg is a quality contributor and well respectedNorg is a quality contributor and well respectedNorg is a quality contributor and well respectedNorg is a quality contributor and well respectedNorg is a quality contributor and well respectedNorg is a quality contributor and well respectedNorg is a quality contributor and well respectedNorg is a quality contributor and well respectedNorg is a quality contributor and well respectedNorg is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: butler done for season

Kubes will prob signed a Vet or Cut victim from either The redskins Seattle or were ever else LOL
Norg is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2012   #83
TheMatrix31
Hall of Fame
 
TheMatrix31's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: California
Posts: 6,938
Rep Power: 39734 TheMatrix31 is a quality contributor and well respectedTheMatrix31 is a quality contributor and well respectedTheMatrix31 is a quality contributor and well respectedTheMatrix31 is a quality contributor and well respectedTheMatrix31 is a quality contributor and well respectedTheMatrix31 is a quality contributor and well respectedTheMatrix31 is a quality contributor and well respectedTheMatrix31 is a quality contributor and well respectedTheMatrix31 is a quality contributor and well respectedTheMatrix31 is a quality contributor and well respectedTheMatrix31 is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: butler done for season

Man I hate preseason.
TheMatrix31 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2012   #84
Wolf6151
Hall of Fame
 
Wolf6151's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Pearland, Texas
Posts: 3,206
Rep Power: 18476 Wolf6151 is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf6151 is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf6151 is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf6151 is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf6151 is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf6151 is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf6151 is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf6151 is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf6151 is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf6151 is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf6151 is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: butler done for season

Gardner will most likely be the new swing OT. I just wonder do we put Butler on IR or do we come to a medical agreement waiver with him?
Wolf6151 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2012   #85
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
 
CloakNNNdagger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 14,907
Rep Power: 131093 CloakNNNdagger is a quality contributor and well respectedCloakNNNdagger is a quality contributor and well respectedCloakNNNdagger is a quality contributor and well respectedCloakNNNdagger is a quality contributor and well respectedCloakNNNdagger is a quality contributor and well respectedCloakNNNdagger is a quality contributor and well respectedCloakNNNdagger is a quality contributor and well respectedCloakNNNdagger is a quality contributor and well respectedCloakNNNdagger is a quality contributor and well respectedCloakNNNdagger is a quality contributor and well respectedCloakNNNdagger is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: butler done for season

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolf6151 View Post
Gardner will most likely be the new swing OT. I just wonder do we put Butler on IR or do we come to a medical agreement waiver with him?
From what I've seen thus far in preseason, if Gardner becomes our new swing tackle, we might as well hang a custom sign around his neck with a message directed to opposing defenses........

CloakNNNdagger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2012   #86
rmartin65
I'm Score
 
rmartin65's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Age: 24
Posts: 7,890
Rep Power: 53272 rmartin65 is a quality contributor and well respectedrmartin65 is a quality contributor and well respectedrmartin65 is a quality contributor and well respectedrmartin65 is a quality contributor and well respectedrmartin65 is a quality contributor and well respectedrmartin65 is a quality contributor and well respectedrmartin65 is a quality contributor and well respectedrmartin65 is a quality contributor and well respectedrmartin65 is a quality contributor and well respectedrmartin65 is a quality contributor and well respectedrmartin65 is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: butler done for season

Yeah... not cool. I dont think Butler was an all-star or anything, but he was a serviceable swing tackle. A position of weakness gets weaker, fantastic.
rmartin65 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2012   #87
drs23 
Veteran
 
drs23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: No more VIP Suite so back to the recliner
Section: No more VIP suite so back to the recliner
Age: 57
Posts: 4,017
Rep Power: 57173 drs23 is a quality contributor and well respecteddrs23 is a quality contributor and well respecteddrs23 is a quality contributor and well respecteddrs23 is a quality contributor and well respecteddrs23 is a quality contributor and well respecteddrs23 is a quality contributor and well respecteddrs23 is a quality contributor and well respecteddrs23 is a quality contributor and well respecteddrs23 is a quality contributor and well respecteddrs23 is a quality contributor and well respecteddrs23 is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: butler done for season

Quote:
Originally Posted by PapaL View Post
There's a lot of stupid going on in this thread. I'm just staying away before this gets outta hand and I start popping off at the gums.

Trading Tate...smfh.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bleed_Blu_Red View Post
Amen
SMFH THREE! I'm now in WTF are you thinking mode. Need coffee..FT, I need a stiff drink!
__________________

Many thanks to sig Guru FS!

Sent from my keyboard using short, fat fingers.
drs23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored links
Old 08-31-2012   #88
Dutchrudder 
COOL BEANS!
 
Dutchrudder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Houston
Section: Fort Kickass
Age: 29
Posts: 15,063
Rep Power: 150980 Dutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: butler done for season

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolf6151 View Post
Gardner will most likely be the new swing OT. I just wonder do we put Butler on IR or do we come to a medical agreement waiver with him?
Really need the contract details to know what the IR situation is. I know he was going to make about 1.3 million this year, but it's possible that it all becomes guaranteed if he goes on IR. In any case, we paid him 3.8 million to play in 2 games... ughhhhhhh
__________________
Life is too important to be taken seriously. -Oscar Wilde
Dutchrudder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2012   #89
Honoring Earl 34
Hey Koolaid
 
Honoring Earl 34's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Houston
Age: 51
Posts: 18,362
Rep Power: 114256 Honoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respectedHonoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respectedHonoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respectedHonoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respectedHonoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respectedHonoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respectedHonoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respectedHonoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respectedHonoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respectedHonoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respectedHonoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: butler done for season

The Butler , in the lobby , with an elbow .
__________________
A little about Colleen. She's the brains behind the operation. Magna cum laude from BC, top five in her law school class, so obviously I have a pretty good idea how to recruit, I can tell you that.
Honoring Earl 34 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2012   #90
Jackie Chiles
Hall of Fame
 
Jackie Chiles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Houston
Age: 30
Posts: 1,856
Rep Power: 7394 Jackie Chiles is a quality contributor and well respectedJackie Chiles is a quality contributor and well respectedJackie Chiles is a quality contributor and well respectedJackie Chiles is a quality contributor and well respectedJackie Chiles is a quality contributor and well respectedJackie Chiles is a quality contributor and well respectedJackie Chiles is a quality contributor and well respectedJackie Chiles is a quality contributor and well respectedJackie Chiles is a quality contributor and well respectedJackie Chiles is a quality contributor and well respectedJackie Chiles is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: butler done for season

Quote:
Originally Posted by CloakNNNdagger View Post
From what I've seen thus far in preseason, if Gardner becomes our new swing tackle, we might as well hang a custom sign around his neck with a message directed to opposing defenses........

So he looked about the same as Butler?
__________________
"If the bra don't fit, you must acquit"
Jackie Chiles is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2012   #91
Porky
Hall of Fame
 
Porky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Age: 50
Posts: 12,031
Rep Power: 38935 Porky is a quality contributor and well respectedPorky is a quality contributor and well respectedPorky is a quality contributor and well respectedPorky is a quality contributor and well respectedPorky is a quality contributor and well respectedPorky is a quality contributor and well respectedPorky is a quality contributor and well respectedPorky is a quality contributor and well respectedPorky is a quality contributor and well respectedPorky is a quality contributor and well respectedPorky is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: butler done for season

Out of all the moves over the offseason the one that kept gnawing at me was the move to cut Winston. The thing that bothered me the most was (per Winston) they never even came to him to see if he would restructure.

Winston was a solid vet, a great run blocker, adequate pass blocker, and most importantly part of that chemistry along the line that is really needed. Olines need to function as one. Replacing one cog in the machine is tough enough, but replacing two side by side when both of your replacements are not as good as what you had is just asking for trouble.

I've been praising Smith this offseason for the most part. And I realize in the salary cap era sometimes you have to make a tough decision ala Mario....but what sticks in my craw is not even going to the caveman and asking him to take a paycut or restructure. They said it would be an insult or some such nonsense. You know what's an insult Rick - Screwing the fans out of the best possible product. That's the insult.

Newton has some good athletic ability, and he has a bright future (I think) - but he is still raw. He's not quite ready for prime-time but he will have to do. To add insult to injury, the guy to his left is new too, a bad combo. I was not comfy with him out there already. Meanwhile the guy they were really counting on to take over the spot had a lousy camp and can't beat out Newton, and then goes on IR.

So we go from a good solid vet who never missed games, to an unproven 7th rd raw prospect. Not good Smithiak!
__________________
Your local CruiseOne Vacation specialist. www.firstclasscruising.biz Visit me on Facebook.
Porky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2012   #92
SheTexan
Site Contributor
 
SheTexan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Pasadena, Texas
Age: 68
Posts: 7,138
Rep Power: 29597 SheTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedSheTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedSheTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedSheTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedSheTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedSheTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedSheTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedSheTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedSheTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedSheTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedSheTexan is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: butler done for season

Quote:
Originally Posted by cuppacoffee View Post
Go ahead Say it.

You told us so and nobody would listen.

LOL!! I was just sitting here wondering how many NEG reps I'd get if I posted what's really on my mind this morning! I'll refrain. What's done is done! I think we all know our Oline is in trouble, and so is MS!! Really sad when all we had to do was fork over a few mil bucks!
__________________
Quote:
Wake up, thank the Man for today, and dominate everything you do.
Brian Cushing
SheTexan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2012   #93
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
 
cuppacoffee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Age: 74
Posts: 4,435
Rep Power: 35979 cuppacoffee is a quality contributor and well respectedcuppacoffee is a quality contributor and well respectedcuppacoffee is a quality contributor and well respectedcuppacoffee is a quality contributor and well respectedcuppacoffee is a quality contributor and well respectedcuppacoffee is a quality contributor and well respectedcuppacoffee is a quality contributor and well respectedcuppacoffee is a quality contributor and well respectedcuppacoffee is a quality contributor and well respectedcuppacoffee is a quality contributor and well respectedcuppacoffee is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: butler done for season

Quote:
Originally Posted by SheTexan View Post
LOL!! I was just sitting here wondering how many NEG reps I'd get if I posted what's really on my mind this morning! I'll refrain. What's done is done! I think we all know our Oline is in trouble, and so is MS!! Really sad when all we had to do was fork over a few mil bucks!

You've earned your cred.

Can't neg rep someone for being right.

__________________
"What people say, what people do, and what they say they do, are entirely different things." - Margaret Mead
cuppacoffee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2012   #94
Texn4life
Hall of Fame
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Age: 32
Posts: 3,002
Rep Power: 24999 Texn4life is a quality contributor and well respectedTexn4life is a quality contributor and well respectedTexn4life is a quality contributor and well respectedTexn4life is a quality contributor and well respectedTexn4life is a quality contributor and well respectedTexn4life is a quality contributor and well respectedTexn4life is a quality contributor and well respectedTexn4life is a quality contributor and well respectedTexn4life is a quality contributor and well respectedTexn4life is a quality contributor and well respectedTexn4life is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: butler done for season

Geez Louise!!!!! The freaking season hasn't even started yet. How about waiting until meaningful games are played first! Man alive! No one has been proven right about anything. What happens if Winston goes out and is terrible this year? I just don't know what to say sometimes.
Texn4life is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2012   #95
Corrosion
Hall of Fame
 
Corrosion's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Northwest Houston
Age: 45
Posts: 30,298
Rep Power: 143455 Corrosion is a quality contributor and well respectedCorrosion is a quality contributor and well respectedCorrosion is a quality contributor and well respectedCorrosion is a quality contributor and well respectedCorrosion is a quality contributor and well respectedCorrosion is a quality contributor and well respectedCorrosion is a quality contributor and well respectedCorrosion is a quality contributor and well respectedCorrosion is a quality contributor and well respectedCorrosion is a quality contributor and well respectedCorrosion is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: butler done for season

Quote:
Originally Posted by cuppacoffee View Post
You've earned your cred.

Can't neg rep someone for being right.

Eh , not many people have a hammer as big as hers .... She just needs to slap them back , when they go red , they get the picture.
__________________



Hope is a poor mans disease.
Corrosion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2012   #96
SheTexan
Site Contributor
 
SheTexan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Pasadena, Texas
Age: 68
Posts: 7,138
Rep Power: 29597 SheTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedSheTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedSheTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedSheTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedSheTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedSheTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedSheTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedSheTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedSheTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedSheTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedSheTexan is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: butler done for season

Quote:
Originally Posted by Texn4life View Post
Geez Louise!!!!! The freaking season hasn't even started yet. How about waiting until meaningful games are played first! Man alive! No one has been proven right about anything. What happens if Winston goes out and is terrible this year? I just don't know what to say sometimes.
We can "what if" or "what happens IF" this topic till hell freezes over and nothing is gonna change what IS! Time will tell, and these new guys, whoever that might be, will get their chance to make that Oline jell once again! It's a TEAM and they all have to do their part.
__________________
Quote:
Wake up, thank the Man for today, and dominate everything you do.
Brian Cushing
SheTexan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2012   #97
SheTexan
Site Contributor
 
SheTexan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Pasadena, Texas
Age: 68
Posts: 7,138
Rep Power: 29597 SheTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedSheTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedSheTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedSheTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedSheTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedSheTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedSheTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedSheTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedSheTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedSheTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedSheTexan is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: butler done for season

Quote:
Originally Posted by Corrosion View Post
Eh , not many people have a hammer as big as hers .... She just needs to slap them back , when they go red , they get the picture.
Thanks, but, I gave up. The guy told me I offended HIM by making negative comments about a certain person with the Texan org that I detest! I truly don't want to offend anyone on this board, so I backed off.
__________________
Quote:
Wake up, thank the Man for today, and dominate everything you do.
Brian Cushing
SheTexan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2012   #98
Texn4life
Hall of Fame
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Age: 32
Posts: 3,002
Rep Power: 24999 Texn4life is a quality contributor and well respectedTexn4life is a quality contributor and well respectedTexn4life is a quality contributor and well respectedTexn4life is a quality contributor and well respectedTexn4life is a quality contributor and well respectedTexn4life is a quality contributor and well respectedTexn4life is a quality contributor and well respectedTexn4life is a quality contributor and well respectedTexn4life is a quality contributor and well respectedTexn4life is a quality contributor and well respectedTexn4life is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: butler done for season

Quote:
Originally Posted by SheTexan View Post
We can "what if" or "what happens IF" this topic till hell freezes over and nothing is gonna change what IS! Time will tell, and these new guys, whoever that might be, will get their chance to make that Oline jell once again! It's a TEAM and they all have to do their part.
Or we can keep bringing up players who aren't on the team anymore. The Patriots fans were upset when Richard Seymour was traded. They haven't missed a beat. The guys that people keep bringing up aren't walking through that locker room door anymore. Continuing to talk about what the FO did does no good, and it isn't gonna be known whether its a good or bad decision for a while. So lets talk about What IS! People freaking out over preseason make me laugh.
Texn4life is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2012   #99
Bleed_Blu_Red
Veteran
 
Bleed_Blu_Red's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 259
Rep Power: 2094 Bleed_Blu_Red is a quality contributor and well respectedBleed_Blu_Red is a quality contributor and well respectedBleed_Blu_Red is a quality contributor and well respectedBleed_Blu_Red is a quality contributor and well respectedBleed_Blu_Red is a quality contributor and well respectedBleed_Blu_Red is a quality contributor and well respectedBleed_Blu_Red is a quality contributor and well respectedBleed_Blu_Red is a quality contributor and well respectedBleed_Blu_Red is a quality contributor and well respectedBleed_Blu_Red is a quality contributor and well respectedBleed_Blu_Red is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: butler done for season

Quote:
Originally Posted by Texn4life View Post
Or we can keep bringing up players who aren't on the team anymore. The Patriots fans were upset when Richard Seymour was traded. They haven't missed a beat. The guys that people keep bringing up aren't walking through that locker room door anymore. Continuing to talk about what the FO did does no good, and it isn't gonna be known whether its a good or bad decision for a while. So lets talk about What IS! People freaking out over preseason make me laugh.
Exactly that's what preseason is for to see what your weaknesses are then adjust when the season begins
Bleed_Blu_Red is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2012   #100
Honoring Earl 34
Hey Koolaid
 
Honoring Earl 34's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Houston
Age: 51
Posts: 18,362
Rep Power: 114256 Honoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respectedHonoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respectedHonoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respectedHonoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respectedHonoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respectedHonoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respectedHonoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respectedHonoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respectedHonoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respectedHonoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respectedHonoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: butler done for season

Here's your man if he can play Ryan Harris Tackle . He was cut by Denver but it wasn't that long ago he was considered the best young RT in the NFL . Then he hurt his back last year as part of the dream team .
__________________
A little about Colleen. She's the brains behind the operation. Magna cum laude from BC, top five in her law school class, so obviously I have a pretty good idea how to recruit, I can tell you that.
Honoring Earl 34 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Go Back   Houston Texans Message Board & Forum - TexansTalk.com > The Great Fans of the Houston Texans > Texans Talk
Home Forums Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:31 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Ad Management by RedTyger