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Old 08-29-2012   #21
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Default Re: REPORT: Keenum vs. Beck, Thur. night, to win the QB3 job

It doesn't matter that Keenum will be playing with scrubs.

The stats are not as important as how he run the offense and how he handle pressure.

He needs to show that he belongs out there.

The Vikings scrubs had allowed only 2 FGs against the Niners, Bills, and Chargers combined (that's how many points the Vikings gave up in the 4th quarter.)

The Vikings gave up just one TD in the second half against those 3 teams.
It will be a good test for Keenum.
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Default Re: REPORT: Keenum vs. Beck, Thur. night, to win the QB3 job

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If that's correct, then there's no way you let Case get to the PS. He will be picked up. He declined other offers to sign with the Texans as a FA. And, as has been mentioned before, Case still has unproven potential. Beck is who he is..

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He might, but it's not nearly as a foregone conclusion as you make it out to be.
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Default Re: REPORT: Keenum vs. Beck, Thur. night, to win the QB3 job

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It doesn't matter that Keenum will be playing with scrubs.

The stats are not as important as how he run the offense and how he handle pressure.

He needs to show that he belongs out there.

The Vikings scrubs had allowed only 2 FGs against the Niners, Bills, and Chargers combined (that's how many points the Vikings gave up in the 4th quarter.)

The Vikings gave up just one TD in the second half against those 3 teams.
It will be a good test for Keenum.
Totally agree. That's why I believe Keenum has a great chance for a surprise Kubiak pick.
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Default Re: REPORT: Keenum vs. Beck, Thur. night, to win the QB3 job

The guy had other offers, and is the most accomplished college QB in the history of the NCAA. Every measureable he had in the combine (except height and long jump) were better than Yates.

You're telling me that he is less valuable than Beck and no one else takes a risk? I disagree..

I can easily see a team sign him for pennies on the dollar (vs. drafting him) and offering him a 1 year (very low risk) deal to see if he can pick up their system.

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Old 08-29-2012   #25
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Default Re: REPORT: Keenum vs. Beck, Thur. night, to win the QB3 job

Im pretty sure Case gets QB3 just cuz he's from TX and Kubes like projects. Beck is 31?
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Default Re: REPORT: Keenum vs. Beck, Thur. night, to win the QB3 job

Beck > Case
Forsett > Grimes
Posey will not be cut IMO, even if he doesn't have a good game.
Norris should make the team. Don't think I've seen him since the Panthers game tho.
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Default Re: REPORT: Keenum vs. Beck, Thur. night, to win the QB3 job

Keep 2 QBs, it is extremely rare you get to the 3rd QB in a season. Don't waste a roster spot for a small upgrade over a FA.
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Default Re: REPORT: Keenum vs. Beck, Thur. night, to win the QB3 job

Wow, this will actually make the fourth preseason game interesting. I really want to see Kenum, and Posey. I'm really interested in Posey, I want to see if dude is worth the third round pick.
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Default Re: REPORT: Keenum vs. Beck, Thur. night, to win the QB3 job

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Keep 2 QBs, it is extremely rare you get to the 3rd QB in a season. Don't waste a roster spot for a small upgrade over a FA.
The Eagles are definitely keeping 3 QBs, with some recent rumblings by Reid of possibly even 4.
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Keep 2 QBs, it is extremely rare you get to the 3rd QB in a season. Don't waste a roster spot for a small upgrade over a FA.
Well, it happened to us last year...
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Keep 2 QBs, it is extremely rare you get to the 3rd QB in a season. Don't waste a roster spot for a small upgrade over a FA.
I don't think it's that rare any more. Only 15 of 32 starting QBs played every game last season (including Rodgers who sat out the last game and could have played). That's not even half the league where the 3rd stringer is just one play away from playing.

10 teams used a 3rd QB last season.
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Default Re: REPORT: Keenum vs. Beck, Thur. night, to win the QB3 job

Well, I'll be rooting for Case. 'Cause I'm a Houston home town homer.

So what?
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Come on Case, you can do it!!!

Go Case!!!
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Default Re: REPORT: Keenum vs. Beck, Thur. night, to win the QB3 job

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The guy had other offers, and is the most accomplished college QB in the history of the NCAA. Every measureable he had in the combine (except height and long jump) were better than Yates.

You're telling me that he is less valuable than Beck and no one else takes a risk? I disagree..

I can easily see a team sign him for pennies on the dollar (vs. drafting him) and offering him a 1 year (very low risk) deal to see if he can pick up their system.

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It doesn't really matter if he had offers from other teams to be a UDFA on a 90 man roster. His college credentials obviously didn't mean that much to NFL front offices as nobody even took a 7th round flyer on him. On top of that he hasn't really played that much in the pre season, and nobody is going to scoop him up to put him on the 53. Nobody is probably going to take John Beck either, but he has actually thrown footballs in regular season games, and Keenum's value has little to do with John Beck as it is.

Drafting him in the 7th round costs really nothing in terms of the salary cap but the roster space he would take up would be much more valuable to a team. He has a better chance of making it onto the Texans practice squad if we waive him Friday, than he does making it onto another NFL teams 53-man roster.
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You know me. I'm a Coog and a Case fan!

Come on Case!
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It doesn't really matter if he had offers from other teams to be a UDFA on a 90 man roster. His college credentials obviously didn't mean that much to NFL front offices as nobody even took a 7th round flyer on him. On top of that he hasn't really played that much in the pre season, and nobody is going to scoop him up to put him on the 53. Nobody is probably going to take John Beck either, but he has actually thrown footballs in regular season games, and Keenum's value has little to do with John Beck as it is.

Drafting him in the 7th round costs really nothing in terms of the salary cap but the roster space he would take up would be much more valuable to a team. He has a better chance of making it onto the Texans practice squad if we waive him Friday, than he does making it onto another NFL teams 53-man roster.
Yep... must spread the reps.

Keenum went undrafted just a few short months ago, and has only thrown 6 passes to show the other 31 teams that they made a mistake. 6.
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Default Re: REPORT: Keenum vs. Beck, Thur. night, to win the QB3 job

i'd like to see us keep case on the 53 and drop beck. sure we dont know what he brings as a pro, but on the other hand we already know what beck is capable of ...
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This is Case Keenum's night to shine. I expect him to come out guns blazin' as soon as he enters the game. Just let it rip young man. Pretend you're throwing 50-yard TDs at U of H. The Vikings depth at secondary isn't great so he shouldn't have much trouble putting on a show. I've got my popcorn ready.
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This is Case Keenum's night to shine. I expect him to come out guns blazin' as soon as he enters the game. Just let it rip young man. Pretend you're throwing 50-yard TDs at U of H. The Vikings depth at secondary isn't great so he shouldn't have much trouble putting on a show. I've got my popcorn ready.

Everybody needs to keep keeping in mind that Kubiak, not Keenum, will be calling the plays, and Kubiak may be looking for lots more than surface candy.....for things that the average fan does not appreciate when evaluating his performance. With that said, I hope that by games end he gives Kubiak a belly ache from too much candy, and we fans hoarse voices.
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Default Re: REPORT: Keenum vs. Beck, Thur. night, to win the QB3 job

It'll either be good, or it'll be bad.

Spread offense QBs (Chase Daniel, Drew Brees, Brandon Weedum, Graham Harrell, Kevin Kolb, Case Keenum) they either translate to the NFL or they don't.

I think Beck will be the QB3 when the dust settles. Case to the PS, then see what he can do next camp. That's my most recent prediction. Will be interesting to see how it plays out tonight and on Friday when cuts are announced.

Obviously I'd love for Keenum to win the job. But he has to earn it. And I just think he's not there yet. Close, but not yet.
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