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Old 08-26-2012   #41
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I want to see grimes on the roster and Forsett cut.

It's not that I don't like Forsett. I think he's a serviceable third rb. But I think grimes has potential to be more than that. I think he already the better player anyways.

But kubiak has to decide if he wants to rely on that much youth.
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I want to see grimes on the roster and Forsett cut.

It's not that I don't like Forsett. I think he's a serviceable third rb. But I think grimes has potential to be more than that. I think he already the better player anyways.

But kubiak has to decide if he wants to rely on that much youth.
I agree. It's a tough call, but Forsett doesn't offer the between-the-tackles ability that Grimes does. I like Forsett in the open field better. If I can only pick one, I take Grimes.
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I want to see grimes on the roster and Forsett cut.

It's not that I don't like Forsett. I think he's a serviceable third rb. But I think grimes has potential to be more than that. I think he already the better player anyways.

But kubiak has to decide if he wants to rely on that much youth.
What about Grimes @ FB? Little undersized but his blocking looks solid. Remember Peyton Hillis was 3rd string on Arkansas depth chart but you could see his talent, one cut downhill runner with power. Maybe you see a little of the same in Grimes. I agree, Texans need to keep him but also Forsett as well. His experience will prove invaluable plus I think he can really help this offense gel & he won't turn the ball over is a willing blocker & very affordable.
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Grimes looks way better running the ball than Forsett.

We should have all four RBs on the 53, IMO. One guy gets dinged, be it Foster or Tate, and you'll need that 4th guy really badly.

Grimes is really good.
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I want to see grimes on the roster and Forsett cut.

It's not that I don't like Forsett. I think he's a serviceable third rb. But I think grimes has potential to be more than that. I think he already the better player anyways.

But kubiak has to decide if he wants to rely on that much youth.
I could see him keeping both Grimes and Forsett .... Likely means they go one short at another position - QB , OLB and CB are likely spots.
Carmichael played his way out of a spot , Keenum could stay on the PS and Nading could just run out of roster spots.


Forsett looked real good in the touches he got against the Aints.

Grimes reminds me of a hybrid of Foster and Tate .... Glides thru holes like Foster but hammers guy's like Tate. Just isnt as shifty as Foster. I like the way he covers up the ball in traffic too .... both hands.
He has also made numerous plays on kickoff and punt coverage ....


The kid has some real good qualities , might be another UDFA gem by Smith.
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I want to see grimes on the roster and Forsett cut.

It's not that I don't like Forsett. I think he's a serviceable third rb. But I think grimes has potential to be more than that. I think he already the better player anyways.

But kubiak has to decide if he wants to rely on that much youth.
Not sure how age in a 3rd back is that important to Kubiak.
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I could see him keeping both Grimes and Forsett .... Likely means they go one short at another position - QB , OLB and CB are likely spots.
That's where I'm at with it. I think they both make the team although I wouldn't be surprised to see either of them cut.
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We would have to pay him for the entire season if he is on the roster on Week 1 plus he would waste a spot for 3 weeks, as he's suspended, and nobody would pick him anyways, as he is injured and suspended right now.

We can always sign him cheap in Week 4.
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We should have all four RBs on the 53, IMO. One guy gets dinged, be it Foster or Tate, and you'll need that 4th guy really badly.
I still think we take 4 RBs and keep 1 inactive, after thinking it over I can see Forsett being the inactive one because of Grimes ability to contribute to special teams.
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Not sure how age in a 3rd back is that important to Kubiak.

Even though Arian is the starter, stuff happens. You could easily have an injury or two there and kubiak is then forced to rely on more youth.

You seriously can't see how the third rb on a football team can all of a sudden become your 2nd or 1st rb?
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Ball needs to be on that list. BUT, I guess they might be waiting to see what he can do against the Vikes on Thurs.
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I made a spot on my version of the roster for both Forsett and Grimes. I think Grimes has shown a lot of desire and talent and I think Forsett gives us a #3 alternative with different skills and abilities.

I don't know if it's going to work out that way. Keeping Grimes means you have to make a hard decision on another position. But I think Grimes's special team abilities get him onto the squad.
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Ball needs to be on that list. BUT, I guess they might be waiting to see what he can do against the Vikes on Thurs.
They still need bodies to play in that game since the starters won't be. Kubiak mentioned as much sometime last week.
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Even though Arian is the starter, stuff happens. You could easily have an injury or two there and kubiak is then forced to rely on more youth.

You seriously can't see how the third rb on a football team can all of a sudden become your 2nd or 1st rb?
Surely, you remember a 3rd string QB (Yates) that had to start last season? Same scenario. Youth or vet you keep the player you think is best for team. Also, youth is not as much a factor for a RB.
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I made a spot on my version of the roster for both Forsett and Grimes. I think Grimes has shown a lot of desire and talent and I think Forsett gives us a #3 alternative with different skills and abilities.

I don't know if it's going to work out that way. Keeping Grimes means you have to make a hard decision on another position. But I think Grimes's special team abilities get him onto the squad.
The more I think about it the more I see Grimes being the #3 HB on gameday so coach Joe can use him on special teams, and Forsett being the gameday inactive who will leapfrog into the #2 spot should Tate or Foster get injured.
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Surely, you remember a 3rd string QB (Yates) that had to start last season? Same scenario. Youth or vet you keep the player you think is best for team. Also, youth is not as much a factor for a RB.
You are making arguments against the wrong guy as I have been saying Grimes should make the team since before training camp.

My point with the youth thing is that Kubiak may not want that much youth collectively contributing. Doesn't matter that a RB can contribute faster at a young age than some other positions. It's still a collective thing.

You have AJ, and Schaub who aren't exactly the most healthy guys...

You could easily have a scenario where you have Martin, Jean, Yates and Grimes getting regular or significant playing time.

Instead of going with that much youth, Kubiak may want a vet like Forsett that has been around the game for a few years.
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The more I think about it the more I see Grimes being the #3 HB on gameday so coach Joe can use him on special teams, and Forsett being the gameday inactive who will leapfrog into the #2 spot should Tate or Foster get injured.
I'd rather just cut Forsett because I think Grimes is the better RB anyways. I don't know if Kubiak wants to trust the young guy, but I like Grimes better than Forsett.
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