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Old 08-22-2012   #21
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OK, let's see now, that's NT added to ILB and TE. My list is growing for next years draft wish list!
See my recent mock for 2013.
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This one stings. Fangupo was continually blocked by one man the other night. He ain't ready to be on the 53.
I saw him take on 2 blockers and a third was pulling off him to his right as play progress. Fang was apprx 5 yards past LOS.
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Fangupo need not mess around on the practice Squad. The guy is almost 30 years old. He needs to be on the roster performing or let go.

I think this is a PS stash like Dutch said.

Came out of nowhere -- Check
Some obscure injury not definitively described-- Check
Looked fine coming out of the game -- Check

Texans are going to have to scrape for roster spots this year and carrying 3 NT's might be a luxury they can't afford.
It could be. If he is scheduled for surgery in the next week we will know something. Most TRICEPS tears are complete......these require surgery. Partial tears still can take months to heal enough to return to play. In that claimed case, we won't know for sure.

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I saw him take on 2 blockers and a third was pulling off him to his right as play progress. Fang was apprx 5 yards past LOS.
I did not see the last three or four minutes of the game, but came away very unimpressed against a non starters.
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I think Harris was one of the surprises of this preseason .... I think he had pretty much punched his ticket to a spot on the final 53 and believe this is a legit injury.

If we were talking about a guy .... lets say Posey ... I might tend to agree with you , but not when the guy in question was playing so well and with the starter at his position injured already.

I had Harris making the final 53 in my list .... Wondering if he's replaced by Fangupo or someone from outside the orginization as cuts occur. For now , I'll pencil in Fangupo tho thats subject to change.
On first look, Harris seemed to register, but after studying every play closely, I didn't think his effort was near enough to make the roster.

A PS spot is more in line.

In the first half, he registered an assist.
This was on a play where somehow the Niners left Barwin unblocked and tried to run right at him (Barwin).
Of course, the RB had to turn back in.
Harris did well to maintain position to be in on the assist, but it was more due to circumstances.

In the second half, he went mostly against 67 Kilgore (a 5th round draft pick from last year who spent the whole season on the inactive list.)

The tackle he made was actually due to Crick getting into the backfield and forced the runner to change course. Harris was originally blocked out of the play. He did show great effort to stay with it and was rewarded with the tackle.

The last play he was in was another assist from the back side.
The Texans shut down play side and the middle.
The runner didn't have any place to go.

On the rest of the run plays, it was a mix bag.
He showed good effort, showing up close to the play a few times, but it looks to me like it was due to circumstances.
Nothing to really write home about.

He was in on about a dozen pass plays and the only one where he had any kind of decent effect was late in the third, against a 4th rounder who's been recovering from lisfranc suffered during the Senior Bowl week.
It wasn't a direct effect, but again it was great effort staying with the play.

He had a few bad moments:
Getting blocked by a RB (Dixon) in a 2 back set early in the game.
Got pushed back on 4th and one. He did recovered but the first down was already in the book.
Got pushed back 4 or 5 yards by a combo block and then was pancaked.
Got totally cleared out to one side in the second half.

I frankly don't think he can make the 53-man roster.
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When I saw the title of the thread, first instinct was "oh, we are at practice squading guys already time".

I'm hoping Mitchell steps up and shows he can be the answer going forward on the nose.
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Let me answer your question, Sylvester Williams-DT from N. Carolina in the 2nd or 3rd round. He's 6'03" and 320 lbs. and moves surprisingly well for such a big man. Or Kawaan Short-DT from Purdue, Rick Smiths favorite school, in the 2nd round if he lasts that long. He's 6'03" and 310 lbs. and also pretty quick and agile for such a big man. Either would work well in a NT rotation with Mitchell after Cody leaves in FA as a salary cap walk.
Short would be an excellent selection, but we'd have to take him with our 1st. Won't be around long enough to grab in the 2nd.
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I can see a DLine with Watt in the middle and Antonio & Jamison at the ends.
Regular season opening-day game vs Miami may be the opportunity to introduce that trio ?
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On first look, Harris seemed to register, but after studying every play closely, I didn't think his effort was near enough to make the roster.

A PS spot is more in line.

In the first half, he registered an assist.
This was on a play where somehow the Niners left Barwin unblocked and tried to run right at him (Barwin).
Of course, the RB had to turn back in.
Harris did well to maintain position to be in on the assist, but it was more due to circumstances.

In the second half, he went mostly against 67 Kilgore (a 5th round draft pick from last year who spent the whole season on the inactive list.)

The tackle he made was actually due to Crick getting into the backfield and forced the runner to change course. Harris was originally blocked out of the play. He did show great effort to stay with it and was rewarded with the tackle.

The last play he was in was another assist from the back side.
The Texans shut down play side and the middle.
The runner didn't have any place to go.

On the rest of the run plays, it was a mix bag.
He showed good effort, showing up close to the play a few times, but it looks to me like it was due to circumstances.
Nothing to really write home about.

He was in on about a dozen pass plays and the only one where he had any kind of decent effect was late in the third, against a 4th rounder who's been recovering from lisfranc suffered during the Senior Bowl week.
It wasn't a direct effect, but again it was great effort staying with the play.

He had a few bad moments:
Getting blocked by a RB (Dixon) in a 2 back set early in the game.
Got pushed back on 4th and one. He did recovered but the first down was already in the book.
Got pushed back 4 or 5 yards by a combo block and then was pancaked.
Got totally cleared out to one side in the second half.

I frankly don't think he can make the 53-man roster.
Honestly, without watching the game that was my impression as well. I didn't see him holding the point particularly well, I didn't see any great penetration.

I thought he showed some good movement ability, but I didn't think he really affected the game.

Maybe with some NFL training he can get a little better. Obviously the texans see some promise because they could have just settled with him instead of ir'ing him, right?
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This is bad news for depth but honestly, I've been less than impressed with the DL so far. Didn't think Mitchell was playing well either. Hopefully a light turns on for Fangupo, don't think Crick is going to hold up the nose at 285 lbs....just a bad situation right now.
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It could be. If he is scheduled for surgery in the next week we will know something. Most Pec tears are complete......these require surgery. Partial tears still can take months to heal enough to return to play. In that claimed case, we won't know for sure.
I thought this was a triceps tear? Did I read wrong or misremember?
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I thought this was a triceps tear? Did I read wrong or misremember?
You caught my error. It should have read "triceps." My explanation/description, though, was correct for triceps injury. Thanks for the catch.
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I'm probably wrong for this but anyone else think Texans should have taken Mike Martin, NT Michigan with either the 68th pick (Posey) or 76th pick (Brooks)?

Martin has looked good so far in pre-season with Tack's, he was the 82nd pick? This would have solidified the interior DL for years to come without spending a 1st or 2nd rd. pick next year regardless of "Cody Island" status ....
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I'm probably wrong for this but anyone else think Texans should have taken Mike Martin, NT Michigan with either the 68th pick (Posey) or 76th pick (Brooks)?

Martin has looked good so far in pre-season with Tack's, he was the 82nd pick? This would have solidified the interior DL for years to come without spending a 1st or 2nd rd. pick next year regardless of "Cody Island" status ....
Too early to judge, but that's the way I'd have gone. I mocked Martin to us several times.
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I'm probably wrong for this but anyone else think Texans should have taken Mike Martin, NT Michigan with either the 68th pick (Posey) or 76th pick (Brooks)?

Martin has looked good so far in pre-season with Tack's, he was the 82nd pick? This would have solidified the interior DL for years to come without spending a 1st or 2nd rd. pick next year regardless of "Cody Island" status ....
You know I was a fan of Martin all season long. While it is still (way) too early to tell who will be a player in the league and who wont be, I would preferred Martin to Posey.
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