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Old 08-20-2012   #121
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Even 1st round draft picks got cut if they don't perform.
Plenty of drafted players never made it to the 53-man roster their first year.
True, but it DOES matter. If you are a draft pick, you will get more chances than if you are undrafted.

Keenum may make the team- I am not saying he has no chance to. I am just saying that the hype surrounding this kid from UoH grads is getting ridiculous.

Looking strictly at the facts:

Keenum played in a college-style offense that does not easily translate into the pro game.

Keenum is a solid 2 inches shorter than the preferred height for a QB.

Keenum went undrafted just a couple months ago.

Keenum, since going undrafted, has thrown 6 passes in game action, completing 3 for 53 yards. To the best of my knowledge, none of these incompletions was due to a drop by the receiver. At least one could have been picked if not for the play of the receiver.

So, honestly, how much could his stock have risen?
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3 for 533?!?!??

Oh yeah...he's making the team...
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3 for 533?!?!??

Oh yeah...he's making the team...
Haha, I went back and fixed that. That would certainly be impressive.
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At least one could have been picked if not for the play of the receiver.
You may want to rewatch that play, RMartin.

There was a corner blitz going on.
The rest of the defense reverted back into a 42 zone.

Keenum made the correct read, seeing that the RB going downfield with the safety supposedly taking him on (this is the defender that was closest to the ball).

The other defender covering Iglesias was a LB.

Correct read by Keenum.

In the NFL, that is called a wide-open receiver.
You expect the QB to throw the ball there 10 out of 10 times.

The safety made a good read and had a good start; however, if the pass was a few inches closer to the receiver, there's no chance for an INT.
(or if Iglesias had stretched out with one hand from the start).
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You may want to rewatch that play, RMartin.

There was a corner blitz going on.
The rest of the defense reverted back into a 42 zone.

Keenum made the correct read, seeing that the RB going downfield with the safety supposedly taking him on (this is the defender that was closest to the ball).

The other defender covering Iglesias was a LB.

Correct read by Keenum.

In the NFL, that is called a wide-open receiver.
You expect the QB to throw the ball there 10 out of 10 times.

The safety made a good read and had a good start; however, if the pass was a few inches closer to the receiver, there's no chance for an INT.
(or if Iglesias had stretched out with one hand from the start).
I deleted the game from my DVR, so I am working from memory here.

I dont doubt the corner blitz, or the zone. Neither do I contest that he made the right read. However, the ball being a couple inches off is the problem. It was not a good enough pass. You say it yourself, basically.
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I deleted the game from my DVR, so I am working from memory here.

I dont doubt the corner blitz, or the zone. Neither do I contest that he made the right read. However, the ball being a couple inches off is the problem. It was not a good enough pass. You say it yourself, basically.
Go to the tech section to get a copy of the game...

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Is it just me, or have any of y'all been really unimpressed by Bradie James? Dobbins has had an outstanding preseason so far. At this point, I'd rather see him as our 2 down ILB rather than James. I'm not saying we should let James go, but we should give Dobbins a shot if we truly folllow the "best man wins" competition.
I'm not seeing much of anything from James. He's got 3 assists so far this pre-season.
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I'm not seeing much of anything from James. He's got 3 assists so far this pre-season.
I said it someone on here, but I'm tempted to say dobbins should be the starter next to Cushing.

That missed tackle last game was pretty disturbing too.
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I said it someone on here, but I'm tempted to say dobbins should be the starter next to Cushing.

That missed tackle last game was pretty disturbing too.
Yeah. No way that guy should have gotten away from him.

Right now, Dobbins is crushing it. Didn't like the facemask call but at least he's flying around and near the ball.

James, not so much.
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As much of a Case Keenum fan as I am, and I am, I have to agree I haven't seen enough yet to justify him being on the final 53 man roster. Then again, the same can be said for Beck.
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Heard on the radio this morning that a scout from green bay says that if grimes is let go they will definitely pick him up. Fwiw.
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The packers were supposedly one of the teams that made a UDFA offer on Keenum.

From what I've seen this year, they should probably focus more on defensive pickups..

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I think we have about 5 to 10 players that if they're released will be picked up immediately. I honestly like Grimes on the roster more than Forsett at this point. I wasn't in that mindset before, but its where I am today. Need to see more these next 2 games though. That's why I'm baffled why some people want to shorten the preseason to 2 games. All 4 games are important to evaluate talent in my opinion.
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I think we have about 5 to 10 players that if they're released will be picked up immediately. I honestly like Grimes on the roster more than Forsett at this point. I wasn't in that mindset before, but its where I am today. Need to see more these next 2 games though. That's why I'm baffled why some people want to shorten the preseason to 2 games. All 4 games are important to evaluate talent in my opinion.
I completely agree with this. The four pre-season games are there for a reason, and I would not like them taken away. I'm also against adding any more games to the season. Things are just fine the way they are.
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I think we have about 5 to 10 players that if they're released will be picked up immediately. I honestly like Grimes on the roster more than Forsett at this point. I wasn't in that mindset before, but its where I am today. Need to see more these next 2 games though. That's why I'm baffled why some people want to shorten the preseason to 2 games. All 4 games are important to evaluate talent in my opinion.
WE, the fans, need 4 games to figure out who's who and evaluate our team's talent. The coaches don't. They've seen what these guys can do.

According to Billick, by this time, the coaches know 50 of the players that are going to be on the 53. And those last 3 are going to be hard, coin-flip type choices whether they choose now or after the 4th preseason game.
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WE, the fans, need 4 games to figure out who's who and evaluate our team's talent. The coaches don't. They've seen what these guys can do.

According to Billick, by this time, the coaches know 50 of the players that are going to be on the 53. And those last 3 are going to be hard, coin-flip type choices whether they choose now or after the 4th preseason game.
I've heard from plenty of coaches who disagree. You have good practice players and players who simply get it done when the lights come on. By Billick's logic, Victor Cruz would still be some scrub not on a roster.
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Who gives a **** what Bellicheat thinks anyhow.
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Who gives a **** what Bellicheat thinks anyhow.
haha, I think he's talking about Brian Billick Thorn. The coach who isn't even a coach right now.
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“Some guys, when the lights go on, they get a little bit better,” Texans coach Gary Kubiak said Sunday. “It seems like this is that type of young man.”
Kubiak's quote about Lestar Jean. You need to see these guys in as many game situations as possible. Tim Tebow is one guy who is simply a gamer. If you judged him simply on practice he wouldn't even be in the league right now.
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haha, I think he's talking about Brian Billick Thorn. The coach who isn't even a coach right now.
He is, and my mistake on that one. Still though, no one is talking me out of my belief that only two pre-season games are enough. I don't like the idea of two pre-season games and 18 regular season games. Just don't like it.

And, of course, I hate Bellicheat. Billick is OK as far as a talking head on TV goes, but I don't always agree with what he says.
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