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Old 08-28-2012   #281
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I agree with what you're saying, I guess I'm just thinking that this is the Texans real shot at a championship, and I think you try to improve the team in any way possible right now, and not worry too much about next year.

Admittedly, I don't see us getting a player in return that would really strengthen the team to any significant degree, which is why I said it was a pie-in-the-sky idea.

If you could trade Tate for a player that helps right now, then I think you have to consider it. That's basically what I am saying. I do acknowledge that it is an unlikely scenario.
O ya it wasn't a shot at you I was just saying don't think it's worth it but understand What your saying get it while the getting is good basically put all your chips in for this yr
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I dont think you trade Tate now. Maybe next year at the draft, if you dont think he will re-sign. But there is little to no reason to trade him now.
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I agree with what you're saying, I guess I'm just thinking that this is the Texans real shot at a championship, and I think you try to improve the team in any way possible right now, and not worry too much about next year.

Admittedly, I don't see us getting a player in return that would really strengthen the team to any significant degree, which is why I said it was a pie-in-the-sky idea.

If you could trade Tate for a player that helps right now, then I think you have to consider it. That's basically what I am saying. I do acknowledge that it is an unlikely scenario.
You'd have to specify who that player would be and how he could help us.

Maybe if someone offered up a CB of near shutdown quality or a solid, starting caliber RT... But what team has those quality assets that they'd be willing to offer up?? I certainly can't name any.
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I agree with what you're saying, I guess I'm just thinking that this is the Texans real shot at a championship, and I think you try to improve the team in any way possible right now, and not worry too much about next year.

Admittedly, I don't see us getting a player in return that would really strengthen the team to any significant degree, which is why I said it was a pie-in-the-sky idea.

If you could trade Tate for a player that helps right now, then I think you have to consider it. That's basically what I am saying. I do acknowledge that it is an unlikely scenario.
Trading Tate is not how you help the team right now. He rushed for 942 yards last year and is part of the best RB duo in the NFL.
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Trading Tate is not how you help the team right now. He rushed for 942 yards last year and is part of the best RB duo in the NFL.
Exactly. While Forsett and Grimes both have played well IMO they don't hold a candle to Tate. I think the best return for him will be while a team that needs a RB is on the clock day one of the next draft. I believe that's where the value lies.
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2QB: Schaub, Yates
3RB: Foster, Tate, Grimes
2FB: Casey, Norris
3TE: OD, Grahm, Brock
5WR: AJ, Walter, Jean, Martin, Posey
3OT: Brown, Newton, Butler
3OG: Wade, Caldwell, Brooks
2OC: Meyers, Jones

4DE: Watt, Smith, Jamison, Crick
3NT: Cody, Mitchell, Fangupo
4ILB: Cushing, James, Mister, Dobbins
5OLB: Barwin, Reed, Mercilus, Braman, Nading

6CB: Jo, Kareem, McCain, Harris, Carmichael, McMannis
2FS: GQ, Nolan
2SS: Manning, Demps

K: Grahm
P: Jones
KR: Holiday
LS: Weeks



I'm probably way off from what will actually happen, but this is my roster as of right now. I have my reasons for why I chose who I chose...

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2QB: Schaub, Yates
3RB: Foster, Tate, Grimes
2FB: Casey, Smith
3TE: OD, Grahm, Brock
5WR: AJ, Walter, Jean, Martin, Posey
3OT: Brown, Newton, Butler
3OG: Wade, Caldwell, Brooks
2OC: Meyers, Jones

4DE: Watt, Smith, Jamison, Crick
3NT: Cody, Mitchell, Fangupo
4ILB: Cushing, James, Mister, Dobbins
5OLB: Barwin, Reed, Mercilus, Braman, Nading

6CB: Jo, Kareem, McCain, Harris, Carmichael, McMannis
2FS: GQ, Nolan
2SS: Manning, Demps

K: Grahm
P: Jones
KR: Holiday
LS: Weeks



I'm probably way off from what will actually happen, but this is my roster as of right now. I have my reasons for why I chose who I chose...
Smith has already been released. Not so sure Carmichael has a shot for a spot now, unless he's outstanding Thursday. I don't really see Brock or Fangupo making the 53 either
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Smith has already been released. Not so sure Carmichael has a shot for a spot now, unless he's outstanding Thursday
Didn't mean to put Smith...I copied an older post and I meant to change it to Norris...

As far as Carmichael goes...He's basically a rookie...He had a bad showing, but he was pretty good the week before.

What was he a 4th or 5th round pick?

I think he'll make the roster but will probably spend most or all of the year on the inactive list.
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Didn't mean to put Smith...I copied an older post and I meant to change it to Norris...

As far as Carmichael goes...He's basically a rookie...He had a bad showing, but he was pretty good the week before.

What was he a 4th or 5th round pick?

I think he'll make the roster but will probably spend most or all of the year on the inactive list.
Ball has been bad, but he's not scared to lay the wood. Roc not only has looked bad, he's been really bad at tackling. Imo

He was a 4th rd pick. It's really a toss up between the 2. Given the $ you might be right. Either way, I'd hope they'd see nothing but special teams...if even
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Ok people think we should or are going to keep 3 Te's i personally dont think so we have Od,Graham is shinning the skins just cut Cooley do you think the texans might look at him? I know Casey counts as a 3 Te but you know kubiak?
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Ball has been bad, but he's not scared to lay the wood. Roc not only has looked bad, he's been really bad at tackling. Imo

He was a 4th rd pick. It's really a toss up between the 2. Given the $ you might be right. Either way, I'd hope they'd see nothing but special teams...if even
If Ball sees the 53 man roster than would be...............unfortunate..


He looks flat out comedic out there on the field. Has there been a game yet that he hasn't looked like a blundering, stumbling fool?
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If Ball sees the 53 man roster than would be...............unfortunate..


He looks flat out comedic out there on the field. Has there been a game yet that he hasn't looked like a blundering, stumbling fool?
Very true, but tackles with some authority. Roc tackles with hesitation. Niether really deserve a spot if you ask me, but I reckon one of them will if we keep 6 CBs
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Ball has been bad, but he's not scared to lay the wood. Roc not only has looked bad, he's been really bad at tackling. Imo
Ball has looked bad in man coverage .... when he's in zone coverage , he's a different player.


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He looks flat out comedic out there on the field. Has there been a game yet that he hasn't looked like a blundering, stumbling fool?
I dont know , after watching some film , what I see is that he's not good in man to man , cant get his head around (like so many before him).
But when you ut him in a zone where he can keep the reciever in front of him , he can close quickly and lay the wood ....

I believe he's performed better than Carmichael .... and think it all depends upon ho many DB's they decide to keep. He could get caught up in a numbers game with McMains , Keo and Carmichael - One of them has to go.
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Ball has looked bad in man coverage .... when he's in zone coverage , he's a different player.




I dont know , after watching some film , what I see is that he's not good in man to man , cant get his head around (like so many before him).
But when you ut him in a zone where he can keep the reciever in front of him , he can close quickly and lay the wood ....

I believe he's performed better than Carmichael .... and think it all depends upon ho many DB's they decide to keep. He could get caught up in a numbers game with McMains , Keo and Carmichael - One of them has to go.
Then he needs to be a safety.

We play a lot of man to man with our corners.
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Ok people think we should or are going to keep 3 Te's i personally dont think so we have Od,Graham is shinning the skins just cut Cooley do you think the texans might look at him? I know Casey counts as a 3 Te but you know kubiak?
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(on the fullback position) “Moran (Norris) is going to play in this game the whole game. It’s a big game for him because we’re trying to make a decision. Obviously James (Casey) is our starter and we’re very pleased with how far James has come as a player. He’s had an excellent preseason. We’re trying to make a decision on Moran (Norris), if we think that he can help us. He’s going to get that opportunity Thursday so we’ll see how he plays. He’s played a lot in this league. It’s been a little bit of a catch up from what we do so to speak. So I hope to find out some more on Thursday.”

(on if the number of tight ends affects the fullback decision) “Yeah, it’s a big effect. I don’t have the numbers in front of me but I’m going to say last year tight ends and running backs together were maybe a combined nine. Right now, we might be at six or seven when you look at some of the things that went on. So that is a big question mark moving forward. We like our two young tight ends also. They’re both doing some good things in camp so where do we go from that standpoint. But obviously it’s a position that I think we’ll continue to look at.
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I think Kubiak is trying to convince himself to go with Casey as the lone fullback and use him at tight end. Note that he said last year they carried nine backs and tight ends, but now they're at six or seven. If you count...Foster, Tate, Forsett, Grimes, Daniels, Graham, Casey. Right now I'm thinking Norris gets released and resigned if needed later in the season. I was thinking Grimes would go to the practice squad, but after more thought, Kubiak may want to carry four backs this year, as I think Grimes offers some help on special teams. I think Logan and Supernaw both get released, with Logan ending up on the practice squad. This offers him flexibility in other areas of the roster.
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I think Kubiak is trying to convince himself to go with Casey as the lone fullback and use him at tight end. Note that he said last year they carried nine backs and tight ends, but now they're at six or seven. If you count...Foster, Tate, Forsett, Grimes, Daniels, Graham, Casey. Right now I'm thinking Norris gets released and resigned if needed later in the season. I was thinking Grimes would go to the practice squad, but after more thought, Kubiak may want to carry four backs this year, as I think Grimes offers some help on special teams. I think Logan and Supernaw both get released, with Logan ending up on the practice squad. This offers him flexibility in other areas of the roster.
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I think Kubiak is trying to convince himself to go with Casey as the lone fullback and use him at tight end. Note that he said last year they carried nine backs and tight ends, but now they're at six or seven. If you count...Foster, Tate, Forsett, Grimes, Daniels, Graham, Casey. Right now I'm thinking Norris gets released and resigned if needed later in the season. I was thinking Grimes would go to the practice squad, but after more thought, Kubiak may want to carry four backs this year, as I think Grimes offers some help on special teams. I think Logan and Supernaw both get released, with Logan ending up on the practice squad. This offers him flexibility in other areas of the roster.
That's exactly what I said in my last version of the roster.
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. Note that he said last year they carried nine backs and tight ends, but now they're at six or seven. If you count...Foster, Tate, Forsett, Grimes, Daniels, Graham, Casey. Right now I'm thinking Norris gets released and resigned if needed later in the season. I was thinking Grimes would go to the practice squad, but after more thought, Kubiak may want to carry four backs this year, as I think Grimes offers some help on special teams. I think Logan and Supernaw both get released, with Logan ending up on the practice squad. This offers him flexibility in other areas of the roster.
Not a chance in hell.

There will be at least one other FB/TE on the roster besides OD , Graham and Casey.
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I think Kubiak is trying to convince himself to go with Casey as the lone fullback and use him at tight end. This offers him flexibility in other areas of the roster.
I'm trying to wrap my head around the idea that 1 fullback and 2 tight ends makes the roster more flexible??? Nope, I don't get it.
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Yes. But, they may not be currently on the roster.
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You can't place someone on the PUP list once they've participated in training camp. The only options for Cody are making the roster, IR, or being released.
Thank you, I did not know that. Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't their new rules this year for IR, you can come off IR after 8 weeks?
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