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Old 05-24-2005   #1
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Which do you think would help the texans have a better chance to win, consistent 100 yards rushing every game, or consistent 250-300 yards passing. Now i know the running game opens up the passing game and some would say the passing game opens up the running game. But thats not what i'm wanting to know. BETTER SHOT OF WINNING RUSHING ATTACK OR PASSING ATTACK.
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i think +3 in the turnover column is the stat that contributes the most to a victory...so neither
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i think +3 in the turnover column is the stat that contirbutes the most to a victory...so neither

well yeah that helps, thanks for not answering my question but hey atleast ya went up in the post column
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I think the running game is more important, a running game is what establishes the passing game and also keeps the clock moving in late games when your trying to run the clock....plus a running game lessens the chances of a turnover
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I think the running game is more important, a running game is what establishes the passing game and also keeps the clock moving in late games when your trying to run the clock....plus a running game lessens the chances of a turnover

i bet u werent thinking that after the first 2 games the texans played, poor D.D !
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A good runner can make any team a contender. Look at Ricky back in 2003 when AJ Feely and Jay Fielder were the QBs, but still got to a 9-7(maybe 10-6) record.
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I'm old school to the core. Run it Run it again Run it some more....then throw da bombbbb.
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I love a consistent running game, but in order to win against teams like the colts and rams we need to have a passing attack that will get us at least 300 yards. The team does have the receivers to do this with, lets just hope we have the line.
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in order to win against teams like the colts and rams we need to have a passing attack that will get us at least 300 yards.
In beating the Colts in the playoffs Tom Brady only threw for 144 yards while the Patriots ran for 210 yards. Meanwhile, Manning threw for 238 yards but the Colts only ran for 46 yards. Patriots 20, Colts 3.

A good running game will chew up the clock and keep the ball out of Manning's hands so he can't score lots of points. Even though Davis has had a couple of 1000 yard seasons, the Texans really haven't had a good running game yet because they haven't been able to run the ball effectively at the end of the game to maintain a lead. Remember the end of the 2003 season when the Colts and Titans were able to come back and win games late? The Texans lost those games because they couldn't run the ball effectively when they needed to run time off the clock.

A good running game is one that can get first downs late in the game by running on first, second, and third down (and even fourth if necessary) with everyone in the building knowing that they are going to run the ball.
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nothing sexier than a high powered passing game. however, the big stud running back is the way to go, but that only works with a good d. oh and a good line. this offense needs help! :brickwall
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A big stud running back makes the offensive line look better than it is because he can break tackles at the line of scrimmage.

He also makes his defense look better than it is because he helps it stay off the field.

He also makes his quarterback look better than he is because safeties are worried about the run and not the pass.
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well yeah that helps, thanks for not answering my question but hey atleast ya went up in the post column
i SIR am no a post whore! since i have been thus accused, i will reply to your original post with one of the two choices you offered.

running game without a question. for the same reasons i love a tough defense are the same reasons i love an effective ground game. there are few things more impressive than one team physically dominating another team. no bells and whistles, strings attached, or "gotcha" crap, just plain old fashioned domination. also eats the clock, is demoralizing (for reasons mentioned above) and epitomizes what football is about IMO.

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so its agreed, davis is good, but he doesnt give us enough of those things.
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Thats tough to say he has never played a full season. They Changed the blocking scheme, & He needs to stay healthy and then we can say he does or doesnt give us enough of these things.

Personally I like a Bruising bettis type of runner more than any other back. A RB thats constantly not only wearing you out, but he is also getting in your head, and hes punishing your body.

If the power running game can get to the 2nd and 3rd level consistently no way can the secondary really be at the top of their game for a consistent air attack.

SO yeah RB way more important, look at the draft if you want more proof.

Morency rd 2, Mathis rd 4, speaks for itself.
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I think that Texans are conservative enough when it comes to them trying to run. Use the speed and power of our receivers to air it out some more. Obviously they don't want a power back. look at DD, Hollings, and Morency they are quick through the gap not head on. None of them are ever going to be confused with Earl.

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Remember the end of the 2003 season when the Colts and Titans were able to come back and win games late? The Texans lost those games because they couldn't run the ball effectively when they needed to run time off the clock.
They lost those cause of horrible play calling and thinking we can settle in for the win. The Greenbay game anyone remember that fiasco. Texans were up then second half was run,run,run, and punt. Then go figure Farve figures out the defense and they are done. I agree that a good running game is a neccesity. Texans have a descent running game.(1,000 yards 2 seasons in a row while being injured) Its time to work on the passing game.
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100 yard plus running and 300 yard passing performances will soon be a norm for the houston texans. but i agree that our running game needs to be consistent and also needs to be able to run 1-3 yards on a third down to pick up a first. our offensive numbers have improved every year and i don't see why it wouldn't improve this season as well.
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Top 5 rushing teams from last year:
Atlanta - 11-5
Pittsburgh - 15-1
Jets - 10-6
Denver - 10-6
Kansas City - 7-9

Top 5 passing teams from last year:
Indianapolis - 12-4
Minnesota - 8-8
Green Bay - 10-6
Kansas City - 7-9
St. Louis - 8-8

I'd have to go with the rushing.
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I think that Texans are conservative enough when it comes to them trying to run. Use the speed and power of our receivers to air it out some more. Obviously they don't want a power back. look at DD, Hollings, and Morency they are quick through the gap not head on. None of them are ever going to be confused with Earl.



They lost those cause of horrible play calling and thinking we can settle in for the win. The Greenbay game anyone remember that fiasco. Texans were up then second half was run,run,run, and punt. Then go figure Farve figures out the defense and they are done. I agree that a good running game is a neccesity. Texans have a descent running game.(1,000 yards 2 seasons in a row while being injured) Its time to work on the passing game.
I think you just answered the reason of what makes a good running game. Earlier he mentioned that a good running game is one that you can run out the clock when everyone in the building knows you are going to run the ball. If the Texans have that kind of running game, we win.
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Which do you think would help the texans have a better chance to win, consistent 100 yards rushing every game, or consistent 250-300 yards passing. Now i know the running game opens up the passing game and some would say the passing game opens up the running game. But thats not what i'm wanting to know. BETTER SHOT OF WINNING RUSHING ATTACK OR PASSING ATTACK.
If we have consistantly large rushing totals it's indicative of the fact that we aren't playing from behind. Therefore, if I had to choose one over the other, I'd like to see us with 100yds+ rushing every week.

Notice on primetime on ESPN when they run down the 300 yard passers, usually the vast majority of them are losing efforts.
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I coach HS Football in So. Cal., and we are really known for producing great QB's and receivers. But MY team had a great running game and a good D, and we destroyed the teams with really good aerial attacks. I realize we are not the NFL, but it is just a similar comparison
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