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Old 05-24-2005   #41
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Pitts is much quicker, has ten times better feet, is a better drive blocker and is is a better second level blocker. other than that...Wade is better
In our second season, Pitts faced DEFENDING SACK LEADER Jason Taylor in the first game of the season. Jason Taylor got punked by Pitts and left Taylor with a big 0 (donut) in the sack column.

Need we point out that when Pitts was the starting LT we had the fewest sacks in our young franchise history.
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Need we point out that when Pitts was the starting LT we had the fewest sacks in our young franchise history.
And the year before when he was also starting we had the most sacks in NFL history. Statistics mean almost nothing.

I want to see Wand at LT in year two. I think he'll be much improved but I'll add that I don't mind him having to beat some other guys to get that second year. If he can't beat them then I'm wrong about him and he doesn't deserve to be starting. Bring in Riley and bring back Pitts. Add Shelton too if the Texans think it's necessary. I'm pulling for Wand to step up and stay in the starting lineup.
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And the year before when he was also starting we had the most sacks in NFL history. Statistics mean almost nothing.
Yeah but that was his rookie season. Yes we could give Wand a chance in his second season but wouldn't you want someone who already has 1 more year experience.
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Wand will not beat Shelton if we add him. Bottom line Shelton is on the crest of being a top lineman in the league and he is still very young. If he gets his attitude together he could be the anchor we need on the line. I would love to see our line read.

Shelton, Pitts, McKinney, Wand, Wade. That gives us one hell of a pass protection and some serious drive blockers to open holes for our running game.
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I'm pulling for Wand to step up and stay in the starting lineup.
Hey Herv, if Wand should lose his starting job at LT, what's your view of his
chances of remaining a starter by playing guard. I think it takes more strength
if not finess and athleticism to play inside, especially when comparing LT to the guard positions ? I don't think he's every played guard, either here in Houston or in college ?
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So are the Texans Gonna go after L.J. Shelton?
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Bottom line Shelton is on the crest of being a top lineman in the league and he is still very young.
Bottom line, Shelton is far closer to being called a 1st round draft pick bust than he is to being a top lineman in the league.

If he'll sign cheap, sure bring him in for competition, but he is by no means a sure fire starter.
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Jonas Jennings got a huge amount from the 49ers this offseason. I know Shelton wont sign for cheap. Look for another Todd Wade contract for him from someone.
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Pitts is so rock solid that we need to bring in Shelton. Come on people what the heck are you being fed? Pitts is mediocre at best. He lapses in his assignments, doesn't have the nastiness to be effective and doesn't intimidate ANYONE!!!!. He is Foreman on the Offensive line.
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Pitts is average as a guard, but average also as a tackle. he provides a good role player & depth to the roster but is not starter material period. Wand in his first year proved to be adequate he started @ LT when Robert Gallery played guard and some at RT. other than a few isolated incidents which can happen to anyone (Freeney) he moved his man way outside to the left, where he lost containment was when Carr moved away from the pocket usually to the right side so his man would be chasing from the back-side.

Pitts also had McKinney on his right, which it was just not possible for him to help out, all you could expect of him was to take on the Nose Tackle and neutralize him, when he did help out on occassion it opened up the right interior side where Weigert was usually waging a losing battle himself. this is the reason the Texans went to a zone blocking scheme to help one another out without being left exposed individually.

We need some good young guard prospects in next years draft. the need to address the CB & DT positions will prove warrented, we just have to patient and let Casserly address their needs as they can, just hope they don't give up on Wand and keep Pitts inside
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Wand will not beat Shelton if we add him. Bottom line Shelton is on the crest of being a top lineman in the league and he is still very young.

Yes, of course he won't beat Shelton because you see teams kicking promising young linemen that they've spent 1st round draft choices on to the curb all the time right? Young guys on the crest of being top linemen (starting left tackles no less) are frequently let go for no compensation by teams who need them.
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