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Old 05-23-2005   #21
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Pitts gave me the impression in the 610 am interview (a) that he would like to play LT better and (b) the Texans had Wand playing LG in order to get him to engage and fight better with his hands. Pitts said Wand was showing definite improvement with that in the last 3 days.
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I don't recall saying that the season has already been blown. I think we have an outside shot of getting to the playoffs. We keep making changes to our defense, which I think is good. We improved our D with a new LB,CB, and drafting a much needed DL. Our Offense by resigning Bradford, drafting a RB, a WR/KR. Then we go to our o-line in the 5th with a center. If a 3 rounder has a 30% chance of making a team (CC) what does a 5th rounder have? I think Capers is a good coach, but I think he needs to pay attention to our O-line alot more. We will not make the playoffs with the line playing the way they have been. I really don't think chemistry is going to help this bunch. What have they been doing eating , sleeping , and spending every last minute together since the end of last season? Capers is not the open the O playbook kind of guy. He is a grind it out, run the ball down your throat type of coach. does not fit our o-line. If you remember right it had to take the browns to make a long pass on Glenn to get Capers or Palmer to throw the ball downfield.
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Pitts gave me the impression in the 610 am interview (a) that he would like to play LT better
In the little flick that's in the origional post of this subject, Pitts stated he'd prefer to play tackle. No wonder, the position is more varied
in responsibilities and more challenging than guard and therefor probably more interesting for the palyer. And it pays more - tackles, especially LTs, make more, often much more than guards. So I'm sure Chester would prefer to accrue experience and knowledge at tackle instead of guard. And by the way, I don't remember who said Pitts was dumb, but he comes off as animated, personable and articulate in the realplayer flick.
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In the little flick that's in the origional post of this subject, Pitts stated he'd prefer to play tackle. No wonder, the position is more varied
in responsibilities and more challenging than guard and therefor probably more interesting for the palyer. And it pays more - tackles, especially LTs, make more, often much more than guards. So I'm sure Chester would prefer to accrue experience and knowledge at tackle instead of guard. And by the way, I don't remember who said Pitts was dumb, but he comes off as animated, personable and articulate in the realplayer flick.
In his 610am interview he said his game isn't so much a 'pounder' (his words), and he thinks he is best suited to use his superior agility against the speedier guys on the edge, but he said he just lines up where they tell him to and will play anywhere he is asked.

You are correct. Pitts is very bright, I think he scored higher on his wonderlic than Carr did....I am going by memory and need to look that up though.
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for once I have to agree with Vinny. Pitts did an excellent job at LT his second year. I thought the only reason he moved was because they were unsure Wand could play guard.
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Pitts had a fine year at LT his second season. He is easily our best lineman.
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He was. I was upset when they moved him to LG cause he had just learned the LT position.
I agree. I was so frustrated because I knew it would be a huge setback. And it was.
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I agree. I was so frustrated because I knew it would be a huge setback. And it was.
Yes and no. In 2003 they averaged 3.9 ypc to the left and 3.8 ypc to the middle. In 2004 they averaged 4.3 ypc to the left and 4.6 ypc to the middle. That is a huge improvement. Given that the run blocking sucked for the 1st half of the season, the run blocking of the left side of the line was becoming very good in the 2nd half of last season.

And I'll agree with nunu--Pitts comes off in his interviews as smarter than the average OLmen.
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I think that Wand deserves another shot at LT I mean in the last 2 or 3 games he didn't give up a sack. Sure Pitts improved in his second year and the only thing Wand can do is improve.
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Pitts had a fine year at LT his second season. He is easily our best lineman.
i agree! he was probably our best lineman last yr and certainly our most improved lineman. i like him at guard however. i think if we get LJ shelton, then all of our answers are solved.
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i think if we get LJ shelton, then all of our answers are solved.
can i be a smartass? all our answers are solved? or all our questions?

if we passed on barron over concerns about his desire for the game, what makes everyone so sure that we won't pass on shelton for the same reasons? isnt that what got him in denny's bad books in the first place?
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And I'll agree with nunu--Pitts comes off in his interviews as smarter than the average OLmen.
O-linemen rank just below QBs in wonderlich scores. They're pretty smart, for football players. I'm more concerned with Pitts' instincts than how he comes off in an interview. That's where Chester is lacking & that shouldn't be surprising with his lack of experience as a football player. Stunts have given Pitts fits for 3 years running, and having another inexperienced player next to him last year didn't help.

Let's say the Texans don't pickup Shelton & do move Pitts back to LT. Is Seth Wand capable of starting at LG in the NFL? I think it's too much to ask & it just sets up Wand for failure. And if not Wand, then who is the starter at LG? Brown, Weary, or Washington? The recent pickup Victor Riley? The rookie Hodgdon out of ASU? A FA? The more I look at this move, the less sense it makes to me.
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Sorry for the OT moment but - TexanFanInCC - did you see Gene Frenkle performing with QOTSA on SNL a week ago? Awesome.

Pitts seems very intelligent. I have a silly story about him, though. My boyfriend had his lasik surgery done where most of the Texans had theirs done in 2002-2003. One of the fellows said that Pitts was too heavy for the chair, so Pitts offered to go to the bathroom to shed the extra pounds.
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i'm going to quote from the cards message board here...

"......He was terrible when he was in there....He's fat and slow.....Please give us some career LJ shelton highlights where he's not standing around looking for where his blocking assignment went or not sitting on the bench, and I'll say your going to come up with a very empty highlight reel...."

they seem to think about as much of him as some people on this board think of mckinney.

btw, they seem to get pretty nasty over there on the cards boards... gives me a new found respect for the general good taste of Texans message-board posters.
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btw, they seem to get pretty nasty over there on the cards boards... gives me a new found respect for the general good taste of Texans message-board posters.
They've had many more losing seasons. Hope we're never that bitter.
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if pitts is more agile and athletic and the biggest question about wand is his pass protection, then i don't see it as a problem. i think the consensus is that it's much easier to move to the interior OL positions than vice versa. after witnessing wand's, IMO, above average run blocking last year i can see how this could be move worth exploring. and another very important part of the equation is pitts eagerness to play LT, no better motivation than internal...

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I would give anything to get back to the sack count of year 2. I think Pitts would be the best bet at the LT position based on year two sack numbers. The only thing that I do not like about Pitts is his false start problem. But then I think, hey - I would rather him be to quick to block than to slow and letting David Carr get racked.

And honestly guys, we don't know how much time is actually going in to fixing the oline so we cant say that it isnt being done. You have to remember that we only know what the media tells us....and usually, unless you are diehards like us, positions like the offensive line is not a big headline.
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And by the way, I don't remember who said Pitts was dumb, but he comes off as animated, personable and articulate in the realplayer flick.
Anyone who said that obviously hasn't a clue about the game of football, offensive linemen are usually some of the smartest people on the feild. You'd be suprised at what all is involved in playing the offensive line. If he was dumb he wouldn't have ever made it to the NFL to play offensive line.
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I seem to remember the 2003 season, first game against the dolphins. Pitts lined up against the JT, Jason Taylor. One of the best DE in the game today. He didn't give up one sack to JT. To tell you the truth, I remember most of the sacks coming from the right side in that season. Don't remember for sure though. I say lets put Pitts at LT, and lets see if that wasn't just a fluke that season...sorry to do that to you Carr.
In year 2, there was a concerted effort to limit sacks... The coaching staff devised a gameplan with that in mind. There were lots of 3 and 5 step drops, etc... Last year, it was back to 7 step drops and send 5 guys out on patterns. It was the philosophy of the offense that led to an increase of sacks, not the deterioration of the OL. The OL was much better as a run blocking unit in year 3 than in year 2, for instance.
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The following was a Capers quote taken else where from this website:
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"We’re going to continue to search and seek and find our best combinations,” Capers said. “I think that Seth knows, like we said from the beginning, that we’re going to try to put the best five guys on the field and look for the best combination of five guys. That’s kind of how Seth ended up out there last year. We felt that he was one of the best five.”
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I dunno Coach.....I think a teams LT should be held to a higher standard than
that, how about we want our very best, numero uno offensive lineman at LT.
Or at the bare minimum, we want our top pass blocker protecting the QBs
blind side, thats why we put Wand over there.
Maybe I'm guilty of beating a dead horse here, but I think not, because arguably the whole set of issues about the OL has been thrown open to discussion again with this fresh report of experimentation involving that group.
One of the primary issues is the order of priorities in the just completed college Draft.
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One of the primary issues is the order of priorities in the just completed college Draft.
ahh draft talk

two years in a row the Texans have addressed the defensive side of the ball, Dunta Robinson now Travis Johnson (first two years Texans went offensive Carr & Johnson). so the need to add young playmakers to the defense seems like sound resoning to me. that being said the biggest question mark of the upcoming season will be the offensive line. some jobs will surely be on the line, will David Carr escape injury once again, will his confidence in his line improve or will he show even more displeasure with their protection?
back to the draft I'd bet even money that the Texans go with a stud Offensive lineman next year, depending on their current rosters effectivness they may need to draft two, round one pick & one of their round 3 picks
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