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Our safeties were better in 2014 imo but I was still not very happy. I feel confident Lewis will be back and Manning gone. I feel optimistic about Ballantine and so so about Swearinger. I have followed many of your comments this last season but want an end of season evaluation to clarify my thoughts on drafting for this position.

As of now, I have been mocking Cody Prewitt 2-51 as someone who could push Swearinger and perhaps start sometime in 2015. Considering drafting someone like Adrian Amos day three and he has played some corner. I like both but feel Amos would have to play back up longer than Prewitt.

Issue: if KJ and Joseph are back, is a high draft pick safety necessary when another position could be drafted? My position is if we keep at least one, we should be solid and again do not need a high pick for safety. Second round used for another position?

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I'm for Lewis, couple of big/clutch plays.. Swearinger is a walking flag imo
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I'm for Lewis, couple of big/clutch plays.. Swearinger is a walking flag imo
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Our safeties were better in 2014 imo but I was still not very happy. I feel confident Lewis will be back and Manning gone. I feel optimistic about Ballantine and so so about Swearinger. I have followed many of your comments this last season but want an end of season evaluation to clarify my thoughts on drafting for this position.

As of now, I have been mocking Cody Prewitt 2-51 as someone who could push Swearinger and perhaps start sometime in 2015. Considering drafting someone like Adrian Amos day three and he has played some corner. I like both but feel Amos would have to play back up longer than Prewitt.

Issue: if KJ and Joseph are back, is a high draft pick safety necessary when another position could be drafted? My position is if we keep at least one, we should be solid and again do not need a high pick for safety. Second round used for another position?

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I don't recall Ballantine playing. Why are you optimistic with him?
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I agree Manning is gone, I'm ok with Lewis but would like him to be 3rd safety maybe. Swearinger needs strong coaching on discipline and moved to SS. He needs to learn to focus on making the tackle and not going for the strip or big hit every play.

I would like to draft the best, fastest, safety with the best ball skills. Draft early if need be. I would like a safety that can play centerfield and make a difference. A Sanders/Thomas type safety.

From what I've seen Prewitt can be that guy so I'm good with him in the second if he's there


edit: I don't know Ballentine at all. He spent all season on IR or PS
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I would like to draft the best, fastest, safety with the best ball skills. Draft early if need be. I would like a safety that can play centerfield and make a difference. A Sanders/Thomas type safety.
Yup, a real FS and draft high certainly if there is a good one available.
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any thoughts on drafting that position and where?
SS in the 2/3 rd
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I don't recall Ballantine playing. Why are you optimistic with him?
Last two seasons at Memphis had 66 and then 58 tackles.

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STRENGTHS Exceptional size, length and closing speed. Can get over the top and leverage the field. Plays with emotion. Superb pro day workout, posting some sub-4.4-second 40 times and a 38-inch vertical jump. Flashes straight-line striking ability when he has a clean angle.
WEAKNESSES Pedals tall and does not play to timed speed. Has a bit of a track mentality. Cautious running alley. Not a strong, face-up, wrap tackler. Does not trigger quickly vs. the run and is late to see plays developing. Average processing speed. Gives up too much separation in transition and is not quick out of his pedal. Shaky hands -- not a natural catcher and will mistime jumps. Marginal career production on the ball.
DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 6-7
BOTTOM LINE A long-limbed, rangy back-half defender with intriguing straight-line speed, range and leaping ability to compete for a job as a backup safety and special-teams performer. Has intriguing physical tools to be molded if he bows up.
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April in his second season with Houston he turns 22. I love everything about him and see him as a SS type with some FS skills.
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Last two seasons at Memphis had 66 and then 58 tackles.

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http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/profil...ine?id=2549940

April in his second season with Houston he turns 22. I love everything about him and see him as a SS type with some FS skills.
sounds like good depth behind Swag
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sounds like good depth behind Swag
Yes and my conundrum as due to 2014 play, not sure I want to gamble on just him and a third day pick. Still leaning towards Prewitt but appreciate all posts.
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We need to upgrade at Safety just to get up to average.

DJ makes wayyy too many mistakes.

I really like Prewitt and you can tell he's got sharp/alert mind.

Adrian Amos popped some at Senior Bowl practices but need to dig deeper.

I'm not seeing a shutdown corner in this draft, so safety would be my preference.
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Our safety play since inception has been abysmal. Outside of Quinn showing promise and Manning his first year, have we ever had even an "average" Safety?
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I like Lewis and think he's worth resigning. I agree Manning is most likely gone, and Swearinger is just to undisciplined making dumb mistakes. I haven't seen anything from Ballantine to form an opinion from, right now he's just a camp body. I agree a pick is necessary but I think there are bigger issues at CB, WR, O-line, LB's, and obviously QB. I've got FS in the 4th round of my latest mock, Durrell Eskridge. I like the fact that he's more of a coverage FS than a head hunter and really like his height/length and long arms with good speed. I think he'd be an asset over the middle when it comes to covering tall athletic TE's or when switching to nickle or dime packages. I could also go for Chris Hackett.
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I'm fine with our safeties with some real competition to challenge them. I think swearinger will improve and I like Lewis. Would like a real centerfielder. Upgrade would be nice. But I think lb is the biggest defensive priority.
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I generally don't like to talk bad about any of our players (yep, I'm one of them). But trying to figure out what Dj is good at & how we could exploit that.


I'm coming up blank...

It's only been two years, but I'm not comfortable with him being the last line of defense. I don't want to see him in man coverage. I don't want to see him in zone. The only time I'm comfortable seeing him on the field is as the smallish LB that assists in run defense & occasionally rush the passer.

I'd have much rather seen Dmo, Bouye, & Hal on the field before Swearinger. I know they're CBs, but that's where I'm at.

We need better safeties, at least two.
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I'm fine with our safeties with some real competition to challenge them. I think swearinger will improve and I like Lewis. Would like a real centerfielder. Upgrade would be nice. But I think lb is the biggest defensive priority.
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Obviously the offense is adding speed is a huge priority. If you add a WR/OL in rds 1-3 then you've got to make a choice on whether you want to spend a high pick on either LB or Safety. I would choose LB in the 2nd over Safety. Unless Prewitt is available. I really like Prewitt and Dawson. They would be perfect fits.

If Lewis isn't re-signed then Safety becomes a top priority. I cant wait to see where the Texans stand after FA.
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Not sure why you guys are so down on Swearinger..

- he sets a good tone on defense like it or not we needed some of it.
- he's improved from his rookie season performance.
- his second defensive scheme in two years, let's see how he improves.
- he's got 5 turnovers, tied for the most in the secondary with Lewis

He should make good improvement this year, I think we have bigger problems to spend a second round pick on.

- running back (they can't stay healthy)
- tight end (we have 0 vertical seam threat)
- wide receiver (we have to address this sooner)
- QB (obvious)
- ILB (Cushing is done)
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Not sure why you guys are so down on Swearinger..

- he sets a good tone on defense like it or not we needed some of it.
- he's improved from his rookie season performance.
- his second defensive scheme in two years, let's see how he improves.
- he's got 5 turnovers, tied for the most in the secondary with Lewis

He should make good improvement this year, I think we have bigger problems to spend a second round pick on.

- running back (they can't stay healthy)
- tight end (we have 0 vertical seam threat)
- wide receiver (we have to address this sooner)
- QB (obvious)
- ILB (Cushing is done)
He's not good in coverage and he misses too many open field tackles trying to make a big hit by leading with his shoulder instead of wrapping up. In fact there were a few of our secondary guys guilty of that last year. I hope RAC breaks them of that crap this year.

I wouldn't be upset at all if we drafted PJ Williams in the first and played him at safety. Maybe then TY Hilton wouldn't be blowing past our secondary so much.
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Not sure why you guys are so down on Swearinger..

- he sets a good tone on defense like it or not we needed some of it.
- he's improved from his rookie season performance.
- his second defensive scheme in two years, let's see how he improves.
- he's got 5 turnovers, tied for the most in the secondary with Lewis

He should make good improvement this year, I think we have bigger problems to spend a second round pick on.

- running back (they can't stay healthy)
- tight end (we have 0 vertical seam threat)
- wide receiver (we have to address this sooner)
- QB (obvious)
- ILB (Cushing is done)
I am unsure why you cannot see Swear the way we do. The "tone" he sets is he frequently gets a flag, shoulder blocks rather than wrap up and tackle. In evaluating QB, we want about a 3-1 TD to INT ratio, with Swear you seem to get a "two good plays and then a terrible" one. He often reminds of Keo in that regard except ratio was reversed.

Most players generally improve from rookie to second season so he gets little credit for that. I don't see the defensive schemes being radically different and he needs to have a Kareem Jackson third season awakening.

RBs? Foster played in 13 games and other than 2013 with back issues (351 carries 2012) he has missed only 6 games since 2010. Blue played all 16 and started three. Not sure of your point?

Agree on WR but we basically played 2 1/2 all season and the 2 will be back. I draft a franchise type (Parker) #16 if there but deep draft and can pick up very good player round 3/4.

Cushing is going nowhere with 72 tackles and with confidence in his wheels again, should be better. Hopefully lats will return a bit more.
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D.J. had 2 penalties all season - 1 roughing the passer and 1 personal foul.

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