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Old 05-20-2012   #41
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I wouldn't trade Tate for anyone right now. We are going to have to rely on the running game heavily this year.
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Justin Forsett is showing well so far in training camp. If Forsett continues to perform well and none of the young receivers step up during the preseason to show they are ready to be starters, then Texans should consider trading Ben Tate. He has high trade value with two years left on his contract and already a proven commodity in NFL. (He would likely be a 1st rounder in a re-draft).

The challenge is finding a fit at WR on another team. The following should be considered: (1) The team has to need a RB (2) their WR core has to be deep enough to trade a player (3) their WR has to be established but not expensive as our salary cap cannot handle it.

Two targets I found were Damaryius Thomas or Hakeem Nicks.

Thoughts? Any other WR to consider?
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Justin Forsett is showing well so far in training camp. If Forsett continues to perform well and none of the young receivers step up during the preseason to show they are ready to be starters, then Texans should consider trading Ben Tate. He has high trade value with two years left on his contract and already a proven commodity in NFL. (He would likely be a 1st rounder in a re-draft).

The challenge is finding a fit at WR on another team. The following should be considered: (1) The team has to need a RB (2) their WR core has to be deep enough to trade a player (3) their WR has to be established but not expensive as our salary cap cannot handle it.

Two targets I found were Damaryius Thomas or Hakeem Nicks.

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Its a good idea, one that should be considered. However, Tate would not net neither Thomas nor Nicks in return. Set your sights lower.
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I also think players like Jordy Nelson and Randall Cobb could be considered.
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I also think players like Jordy Nelson and Randall Cobb could be considered.
I would love to get Cobb.

They will probably offer James Jones.

After much debate I would take Jones and a 4th rd pick for Tate.

This will never happen.
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And by the way, Ben Jarvis Green-Ellis is actually a very solid running back.
That's debatable. Either way, he isn't anywhere near as good as Tate. Tate would be a huge upgrade to their running game.

The Pats would have no desire to do this though. Welker is a lot more important to their passing game than an upgrade at the running game would be.
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Ok... Whatever. He averages 4 yards a carry and has never turned over the pig skin. I don't know what football world you live in but in my book, that's a solid running back.
He's not on the Pats .

If they were going to trade Tate they would have taken the Browns 22nd pick in rd 1 .
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He's not on the Pats .

If they were going to trade Tate they would have taken the Browns 22nd pick in rd 1 .
Woulda/Coulda/Shoulda

It's too late now.
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I see Ben Tate like a Michael Turner clone. He was a backup to a stud and future Hall of Famer. When free agency came, he signed a big deal with Atlanta. When Ben Tate is up for his first FA deal, he will get premium money like Turner did.

If you trade for him now, you get a very young back who is already proven. I think the Texans should be setting their sights higher than someone like James Jones who at best is a #2. I think a GM can already see that Tate can excel in this league and should be worth a lot.
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It's too late now.
Which means the Texans didn't want to trade Tate .
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I see Ben Tate like a Michael Turner clone. He was a backup to a stud and future Hall of Famer. When free agency came, he signed a big deal with Atlanta. When Ben Tate is up for his first FA deal, he will get premium money like Turner did.

If you trade for him now, you get a very young back who is already proven. I think the Texans should be setting their sights higher than someone like James Jones who at best is a #2. I think a GM can already see that Tate can excel in this league and should be worth a lot.
James Jones reminds me of a more reliable Jacoby Jones. I don't think he's #2 material really and I wouldn't trade Tate for anything less than a sure fire #2.

Nicks and Thomas are not going to get traded.

This FO had adequate opportunity to address the issue early in the off-season, but were too worried about trying to retain Williams that the FA WR possibilities now are just...dried up and your best options are vets who don't have great histories or are washed up.

I am still pretty upset at how cheap they could've gotten Brandon Lloyd for and did nothing.
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Hey things change. That's why I made my post. Justin Forsett has shown up in training camp. He started for Seattle, but seems much more suited for a team like the Texans. Tate is trade worthy if you have a capable backup. A condition the Texans didn't know about and won't be sure of until later in camp.

When facts change, one should reexamine their conclusions.
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I'm thinking we need a WR but not at any cost. Unless someone falls in our lap, I'd trust our coach to utilize the RBs, AJ, TEs and yeah even Walter to produce in the passing game. I could be wrong but I also think Martin will develop into an option. If we could get a WR for draft picks this is the year due to extra selections. On any play, we should have 3-4 options open for a pass. It will be up to Matt to get the ball to open guy.
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Hey things change. That's why I made my post. Justin Forsett has shown up in training camp. He started for Seattle, but seems much more suited for a team like the Texans. Tate is trade worthy if you have a capable backup. A condition the Texans didn't know about and won't be sure of until later in camp.

When facts change, one should reexamine their conclusions.
How many days are we into training camp? 2-3 days? And you advocate that Justin Forsett has shown up in training camp? Trade Tate?

God I hope not.
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How many days are we into training camp? 2-3 days? And you advocate that Justin Forsett has shown up in training camp? Trade Tate?

God I hope not.
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