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Old 08-02-2012   #141
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Mario Williams is not "most". CND I know that because of your medical background you've seen every negative aspect of the medical community. This is why people come to doctors and surgeons, they're at the worst point of the injury. This is why it's hard to expect something to be minor, because you are constantly subjected to the most extreme versions of said injuries, along with minor versions. Mario most likely strained an abductor or adductor, I don't really think he pulled his groin.

My question to you is, have you pulled your groin before? I have, on many different occasions, it's always been a day or two, 4 days at most injury. It's pretty darn common in the sports community.

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Mario Williams is not "most". CND I know that because of your medical background you've seen every negative aspect of the medical community. This is why people come to doctors and surgeons, they're at the worst point of the injury. This is why it's hard to expect something to be minor, because you are constantly subjected to the most extreme versions of said injuries, along with minor versions. Mario most likely strained an abductor or adductor, I don't really think he pulled his groin.

My question to you is, have you pulled your groin before? I have, on many different occasions, it's always been a day or two, 4 days at most injury. It's pretty darn common in the sports community.

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No disrespect taken....and no flamesuit required. Your comments are legitimate concerning discerning between truly "minor" vs significant groin strains. A lot of the confusion rests in the terms "groin strain/pull," to begin with. Many people will include sources caused by hernias, thigh muscle/tendon tears, lower abdominal muscle/tendon tears, etc. within this group. The classic "groin strain," though, is usually, in fact, due to varying degrees of tear severity of the adductor muscles. Even within this more acceptable definition, it must be kept in mind that the adductor muscles are actually a group of 5 different muscles. Tear/strain of any of these muscles will result in the problems associated with "groin strain."

And you are correct, I have tended to see these problems at a more severe stage. However, many of these patients related that their problems all started with a "tweak" or "minor tug' or "tightness"........and progressed due to inadequate rest and rehab periods. No doubt, we have already seen this scenario play out in a number of Texans players over the past few years.

All athletes and coaches tend to push the minimal time for recovery to its limit for obvious reasons..........even though they say they are not doing so, and are just following protocol for the severity of injury.

As far as AJ's injury, even though it was originally reported that he had fallen awkwardly to cause the strain, it is now clear by his own words that the strain occurred while he was simply stretching out for the ball. Sure, it could be caused by deficient "warm up" period. But, it can't help you be concerned about a muscle balance and stability question, especially in light of his recent left knee scope, clipping of his right semitendinosus hamstring muscle last year, previous MCL and PCL left knee injury, previous ankle problems, etc. The fact that he is running now is not an extrapolation to on-the-field risk. Any adductor injury no matter how minor, can be re-injured following inadequate rest and rehab, when a player sprints full speed, changes direction acutely, or runs against resistance.........especially if there is any residual lower body muscle imbalance or instability. I have, indeed, followed many patients who wish they could have traded an extra week or two lost to caution for a month or two or more of watching TV.

For so many reasons which I have related here and in past postings, I will remain very guarded about what AJ's future is as he deals with his "historic" injuries and their potential affect on future performance and likelihood of future injuries. No different than everyone else here, I hope that, at least this time, it was and will remain only a story of "The Tweak That Scared Millions."

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Fair enough, but what on earth is leading you to think this way?? What have these guys done to give you this kind of confidence in them? Striking gold? I'm having a hard time even seeing either one of these guys panning out. If these two were drafted by the Jags would you see it that way? I'm just curious, because it just seems like some optimism without reasoning which is fine and all, but I'm just not understanding it. If I felt that way, than I'd probably agree with you, but I can't figure out what is leading you to think that both guys are going to be these steals of the draft and the future of our receiving core without at least seeing these guys play in 8 games of the regular season. I've seen a ton of pre season warriors even where folks get all excited only for big let downs. Jacoby Jones was a huge one that I even bought into at the time.
My main reasoning is that it seems Kubiak is shying away from that previous mentality he had of going for the small school WR (Jacoby).

He's going with proven producers whom I think he has plans for. Before, he was trying Jacoby as sort of a home run threat who was going to be fast and lethal.

I see Posey as a better version of Walter. He's got the blocking skills for our run game, but he's faster than Walter. And younger.

Martin is also a better version of David Anderson.

I see them as upgrades in two WR spots that have been weakened by Jacoby petering out and Walter getting older, slower.

With the loss of Dressen, it was crucial for Kubiak to rejuvenate the WR corps. Jacoby was really the only new WR we've been accustomed to for the past three years. So let's see what Kubiak's new WRs, including LeStar Jean, can do.

It takes as much faith to think they'll wash out as it does to think they'll excel and play a contributing role.

Lastly, we could have skipped JJ Watt and Brooks Reed in the 2011 draft in favor if some potential #1 WR to groom for AJ's spot. And we could have reached in the 2012 draft for that same heir apparent. At the end if the day, all things considered, we made the right moved in both drafts...free agency was helter skelter due to our untenable cap situation. We simply didn't have the flexibility to pursue WR1 guys, IMO.

It's not so much a deal of people reaching to protect Smithiak...because it could be just as easily said that some are reaching to condemn them for the unpardonable sin of not having his replacement already on the roster by now. 6 one way, half dozen the other...both are the same thing just different ways of saying it.

It's possible that we could beef up one area and have another suffer for it. We chose to beef up the defense over the past few years, and a UDFA named Arian Foster made up a lot of ground out of nowhere for us. Sometimes your plans don't work, sometimes the unforeseen ends up being your savior, and you can't always solve all problems on the board no matter how hard you try. What I am saying is this: We have what we have, so keys enjoy it and hope what we DO have ends up being a great deal in the end (i.e. Arian Foster's impact on this offense).
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Aaaaaaaaand he's back

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Johnson said it was "a lot of fun" to return to the practice field Monday.

"I'm glad I'm able to be back out here. I'll keep working," he said, according to the team's Twitter feed.
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