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Old 07-26-2012   #21
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sooner than what? We aren't even in camp yet. "during the off-season" not soon enough? Perhaps they should have said something during the Pro Bowl?
OTA's when the defense was on the field and media was present...or within a couple of weeks of signing Bradie James. I dont think wade came to this decision overnight and since cush is one of our marquee players i'd expect to hear about it sooner then a couple days before camp. Maybe thats not reasonable or maybe it's been a long offseason...
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OTA's when the defense was on the field and media was present...or within a couple of weeks of signing Bradie James. I dont think wade came to this decision overnight and since cush is one of our marquee players i'd expect to hear about it sooner then a couple days before camp. Maybe thats not reasonable or maybe it's been a long offseason...
or if we had reporters that knew what they are looking at.
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Hopefully this is MORE about freeing up Cush and less about Bradie James calling plays.

First, We all (figuratively speaking) looked at Cushing's move to MLB as a promotion, a good thing, for Cushing. We thought it said something about his ability to manage the defense as well as make plays. To be consistent, we've got to be honest & say that Bradie James is just better than Cush at that position. Being that Bradie lost this spot to Shaun Lee (sp) last year, I think it raises questions.


In the early days, pre-Wade, I thought our defense had trouble recognizing plays & making the right adjustments. You could tell the OL was thinking run when the Down & Distance almost dictated a passing situation. Maybe it was formation & the original action after the snap, but our team would "sell out" on the run fake & get burned like nobody's business. They need to be smart enough to know they've got to stop the run, but they've got to play honest & cover the fake as well. This has nothing to do with Cushing, because the era I'm talking about was way before he was the MLB. Just an observation I wanted to throw out there.
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First, We all (figuratively speaking) looked at Cushing's move to MLB as a promotion, a good thing, for Cushing. We thought it said something about his ability to manage the defense as well as make plays. To be consistent, we've got to be honest & say that Bradie James is just better than Cush at that position. Being that Bradie lost this spot to Shaun Lee (sp) last year, I think it raises questions.


In the early days, pre-Wade, I thought our defense had trouble recognizing plays & making the right adjustments. You could tell the OL was thinking run when the Down & Distance almost dictated a passing situation. Maybe it was formation & the original action after the snap, but our team would "sell out" on the run fake & get burned like nobody's business. They need to be smart enough to know they've got to stop the run, but they've got to play honest & cover the fake as well. This has nothing to do with Cushing, because the era I'm talking about was way before he was the MLB. Just an observation I wanted to throw out there.
he's faster than Bradie and Bradie is more equipped to take on Guards head up, play after play, so this is the biggest reason for the switch.
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Barwin Brooks Bradie and Brian.
Dude...that's effin awesome... But you left one of the front-seven out:

Brantonio Smith

I think it has to be the last name to be technical. I remember Brad Lidge having to be "Blidge" to make the cut, though his first name began with a B..

But screw technical...love it!
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Still dont understand why they refer to the other MLB as Mo.
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Still dont understand why they refer to the other MLB as Mo.
Cuz some coach at some time was being witty and the term stuck
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Still dont understand why they refer to the other MLB as Mo.
The position coach who came up with the term was a Blues fan and named it Mo in honor of Keb' Mo'.
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In a 3-4 the mike is typically on the strong side and the mo is on the weakside (both inside). In some 3-4s you can think of the mo the same as a will backer in a 4-3 under. Scheme wise he's the most protected player from blocks. He's given the best opportunity to flow to the ball. Think of the tampa bay weak side backers a few years back who regularly put up sick tackle numbers. If you applied some of that to a 3-4 front the mo gets the best uncontested tackle opportunities. This is a good move. Think of the mike as the defense's full back.

Why didnt we hear about this sooner?
I think this article from last year explains it pretty well also.

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Brian Cushing will have to play over the tight end and fight through more "trash," so Ryans will remain the favorite to lead Houston in tackles. He's got bigger concerns than his position, however, as Ryans tries to come back from a torn Achilles' tendon. He'll be an injury risk entering the 2011 campaign.
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I think this article from last year explains it pretty well also.
Soooo... last year Cush, playing the Mike, had to fight through traffic to make tackles while Demeco's tackles should have been easier to come by? Is that right?

And Cush led the team with 81 tackles. Demeco had 46 (granted, with fewer snaps overall.)

If BRADIE is now the guy having to fight through trash and Cush is free to roam without as much interference and cause wanton destruction and grievous pillaging...

OK.

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I just realized this. Our linebacker corps is the second coming of the killer B's.
Barwin Brooks Bradie and Brian.
They also have Bryan Brahman in rotation! Whitney Mercilus doesn't fit, so we will need to come up with a B nickname for him. If he starts tearing it up, maybe BAMF?
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They also have Bryan Brahman in rotation! Whitney Mercilus doesn't fit, so we will need to come up with a B nickname for him. If he starts tearing it up, maybe BAMF?
I like BAMF. It has a Nightcrawler ring to it.

We could also go with Bhitney Mercilus.
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Different DC's call that position and the WOLB different names. Mo, Ted, and others have all been used and the responsibilities vary from system to system. I like this move as I think the less thinking Brian Cushing has to do, the better off we probably are.
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Different DC's call that position and the WOLB different names. Mo, Ted, and others have all been used and the responsibilities vary from system to system. I like this move as I think the less thinking Brian Cushing has to do, the better off we probably are.
You know if Cushing saw all of us saying this none of us would wake up in the morning tomorrow.
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They also have Bryan Brahman in rotation! Whitney Mercilus doesn't fit, so we will need to come up with a B nickname for him. If he starts tearing it up, maybe BAMF?
How about Badd Ass Mother F..

Oh, I get it.
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You know if Cushing saw all of us saying this none of us would wake up in the morning tomorrow.
Lol.

Cush will still call plays in a dime. Not sure if bjames will be on the field in a nickle...so cush may still have plenty to think about.
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Lol.

Cush will still call plays in a dime. Not sure if bjames will be on the field in a nickle...so cush may still have plenty to think about.
Cush will probably call all the plays. James being Mike is probably more about position than pre-snap responsibility. It would be too complicated to have Cush changing helmets everytime Bradie leaves the field.
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Cush will probably call all the plays. James being Mike is probably more about position than pre-snap responsibility. It would be too complicated to have Cush changing helmets everytime Bradie leaves the field.
Everything i've seen and read this offseason suggested james would call the plays...I hadnt thought about helmets in nickle/dime. Interesting point bc. Welcome to the board by the way.
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Everything i've seen and read this offseason suggested james would call the plays...I hadnt thought about helmets in nickle/dime. Interesting point bc. Welcome to the board by the way.
My guess is Cush will wear the dot on his helmet and relay what the coaches say to Bradie and Bradie will do with that what he will/audible.
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Pretty sure one of our safeties also had a radio in case Cushing wasn't in on a particular down.
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