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Old 07-07-2012   #41
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Well, I think that's wonderful. I've tried some vegan recipes, and while I've always gone back to meat, there's some good ones out there.

There are some chefs that aren't well known, and may be somewhat unconventional, but I tried this guy's vegan Pad Thai recipe and it came out well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeZli...re=context-cha

I haven't tried the following recipes, but I plan to in the future. I'm all about variety. You may laugh at his delivery, but the instructions are sound.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy2my_diH6A&feature=plcp


Arian! Enjoy!
It blows my mind that vegan black metal chef was the first thing that came to my head before clicking your link.
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It blows my mind that vegan black metal chef was the first thing that came to my head before clicking your link.
The man's gonna be famous soon! I just know it! LOL!
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If you are talking about CnD he is no vegan.
If you're talking about seeing me eat chicken fingers at Bubba's or at Reliant on those isolated Sundays (and a handful of other days of the year), I guess I cannot call myself a strict vegan. However, outside of those occasions, for the past 6 years, I follow a very defined vegan diet. Indeed, you can gain all nutritional goals, with only one or two exceptions. B12 supplements must be taken as this vitamin is only attainable through animal sources. The other supplement that is usually necessary is iron. Iron from plant sources are extremely poorly absorbed. Contrary to what you may have heard, you would have to probably eat a bushel of high iron content spinach (or kale) to absorb enough iron to even get close to the daily requirement. I have guided many patients and friends toward a vegan oriented diet (including numerous athletes and bodybuilders) and it has only served to improve their health, state of alertness, performance and quality of life in general. And it's amazing how tasty vegan meals can be prepared. Once you go vegan (or mostly vegan), you will find that meats (especially red meats) tend to leave you with significant upset GI effects as well a state of not feeling so well, even sluggish, tired and sleepy. A vegan oriented diet can help reverse many health problems, including weight, blood pressure and insulin resistance/diabetes. And for all you pathologic personalities out there, many mood disorders are stabilized by a balanced vegan diet.
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If you're talking about seeing me eat chicken fingers at Bubba's or at Reliant on those isolated Sundays (and a handful of other days of the year), I guess I cannot call myself a strict vegan.
I know. I was teasing you because I know your one meat weakness is my last one - Aramark chicken tenders.

By the way, I haven't had meat in several months. Certainly not vegan because I drink milk like it is going out of style. No philosophical thing. I'd still shoot (with an arrow) bambi tomorrow.
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I know. I was teasing you because I know your one meat weakness is my last one - Aramark chicken tenders.

By the way, I haven't had meat in several months. Certainly not vegan because I drink milk like it is going out of style. No philosophical thing. I'd still shoot (with an arrow) bambi tomorrow.
My deep secret is now out there. From now on, everytime I look at a chicken tender, I will be eaten up with guilt............except on game day!
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If it's for health, whatever.

If it's for animal rights, nonsensical "moral" reasons, that's just ****ing stupid.
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If you're talking about seeing me eat chicken fingers at Bubba's or at Reliant on those isolated Sundays (and a handful of other days of the year), I guess I cannot call myself a strict vegan.
I'm like you. Not a strict vegan, I only eat meat and other animal products on two occasions.

When I'm hungry & when I need a snack.

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Ok, so reading all this yesterday really got me thinking about my health, diet, etc. A few months ago I started taking V3 pills and I've trimmed down from a high of 235 lbs to 215 now. Was thinking maybe trying something like this vegan thing could be the next step.

We went to Texas Roadhouse last night and I tell wife and kids about my new diet venture. Wife informed me that all my picky eating a$$ likes is meat, mashed potatoes with lots of butter and milk, baked potatoes with lots of butter, ice cream, french fries, and other really good stuff like that. She says I can't have any of that on a vegan diet. Daughter says strict vegans don't use any products made from animal - leather shoes, belts, etc. Needless to say I was very disappointed.

So I ordered a sirloin and rib combo, with buttered corn and a baked potato. And I ate half of the onion blossom.

Then I went home and had a big bowl of Blue Bell.

So much for my vegan lifestyle.
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There is great difference between following a vegan lifestyle and following a vegan diet. The vegan diet is based solely on health. The vegan lifestyle is also based on a type of ethics/mores. I follow a vegan diet (not lifestyle) and encourage patients, friends and others to least consider leaning their diets towards plant-oriented choices.

BTW, nowhere have I come across a source that has reported that Foster has taken on a vegan “lifestyle”......just a vegan diet. So he can continue to eat his greens, beans, potatoes and other vegetables, nuts, and fruits.............and still continue to walk on his steaks.
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#1 it will affect his performance (unless he is PED loading)

#2 it will affect his health (unless he cheats on the diet)

Humans were never designed to be vegans. That's why
we can digest bones and don't have four stomachs (or other
oddities) and such like true herbivores.

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Arian Foster can do whatever the hell it makes him happy, but personally, I think this "vegan" stuff is baloney.

Sugar is toxic. As long as I keep that mind, I can eat whatever I want.
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#1 it will affect his performance (unless he is PED loading)

#2 it will affect his health (unless he cheats on the diet)

Humans were never designed to be vegans. That's why
we can digest bones and don't have four stomachs (or other
oddities) and such like true herbivores.

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It won't affect his performance whatsoever but I agree with #2. He will now almost certainly live longer.
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My deep secret is now out there. From now on, everytime I look at a chicken tender, I will be eaten up with guilt............except on game day!
Fighting the urge to cheat is a daily struggle for me. I am gluten free, and I work with people who bring kolaches and doughnuts to work every other day.

I gain the same benefits from being GF that many claim from a vegan diet. After my sister was diagnosed with celiac, I eliminated wheat/barley/rye from my diet as well. Soon after, many chronic symptoms I had for over 20 years were cleared up. My memory and alertness also improved.

But those kolaches... They are the sirens' call. Some days, you just have to cheat.
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Why would you want to go vegan in the 1st place after eating at Whataburger 1 time that would change you from vegan to a a vicious carnivore in a heartbeat!
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...Indeed, you can gain all nutritional goals, with only one or two exceptions. B12 supplements must be taken as this vitamin is only attainable through animal sources. The other supplement that is usually necessary is iron. Iron from plant sources are extremely poorly absorbed...
Does a multi-vitamin with "400%" daily requirement of B12 cover it, or do you supplement even more?

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Can vegan exacerbate IBS in those predisposed to it? All this fiber, lentil soup, raw oats is giving me some IBS symptoms.
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Does a multi-vitamin with "400%" daily requirement of B12 cover it, or do you supplement even more?
B12 in oral vitamin form isn't absorbed because it is destroyed by the acid in the stomach.

B12 in the past was always delivered by injections, not a very popular route. Sublinguals have become available, but many take forever to dissolve. The one quickest to dissolve, the one that I take daily is NO SHOT B12 (cyanocobalamin form) by World Organic 1000mcg instant dissolve micro tablets (available on the web and at Whole Foods).



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First make sure that you have IBS and not coeliac disease, which can give similar symptoms. The latter is many time mistaken for the former. Try a glutein free diet for about a month and see if this helps. Wheat and Oats and some other grains are the major offenders. If you see a significant improvement, you have your answer.

If symptoms do not seem to have let up, then just like anyone with IBS, it is a matter of becoming your own detective and manipulating individual foods in and out of your plant diet to identify what particular food(s) are triggering your symptoms. (BTW oatmeal [as opposed to coeliac patients] is classically soothing to IBS patients)
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He's already so hippy, the "lifestyle" will soon be following the "diet". I quit following him when I saw the announcement in my timeline. I want to retain some respect for him while I still haven't seen a pro-PETA tweet.
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