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Old 05-20-2005   #21
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We NEED an enforcer type to return cheap shot for cheap shot when we play the Jagoffs. Closeline Carr, Leftwich gets closelined, hit our return man when he is out of bounds, return the favor next time we punt to the Jagoffs.
Penalty be damned. No more mister nice guy.

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As I recall, Robaire Smith knocked Leftwich silly in the first quarter of our last game against the Jags and rendered him useless for the rest of the game.
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our how bout we just let them make stupid penalties, and the Texans play their game. Why stoop to another teams level, and give them field position, not smart. the best payback is winning the game, not beating people up
We will just have to disagree on this point.

IMHO its called gaining respect or instilling fear in the opponent, or just plain self defense. Some actions are worth the risk.

If you get hit in the mouth do you not retaliate because you are afraid of the consequences, might go to jail for assault?

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I saw a segment on Fox the other day about Bradford and man he looked alot leaner and faster this year.
Leaner than last year? Dude was running about 5% body fat already. If he goes any lower he is going to turn into beef jerky.
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Brian Pittman (our long-snapper) "supposedly" chocked John Henderson at the bottom of a pile. Now talk about being embarrassed.
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Hey, I ain't from Houston, so you're gonna have to tell me what 'TC' stands for.

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It probably should have been "MC" for minicamp. I think 'TC' ment training camp. May be they ment Tough Cookies.
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Well Bradford looked thinner and alot faster. I just hope his hands are better.
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Technically, it should have been CS for coaching sessions.
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Maybe he got one of those hand expander surgeries ?

where they break the bones in your fingers and insert metal rods inbetween each knuckle, so now he can palm a beach ball.

No, not really, but, do you think it would work ?

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We will just have to disagree on this point.

IMHO its called gaining respect or instilling fear in the opponent, or just plain self defense. Some actions are worth the risk.

self defense is protecting yourself or fighting back when a fight is occuring, self defense is not, "hey they did it to us, lets do it right back" thats called being a dummy and lowering yourself to another teams pothetic standards. Someone pointed out Robaire taking out Leftwich, Robaire did that within the legal rules of the game, and im pretty sure after that he got some respect. To gain respect and instill fear, you dont have to resort to cheap shots, you can play your game and get after people, AJ gets his respect, and a lot of coaching staffs and their teams are probably afraid of what he can do if they dont double cover him... did andre ever hit anyone, ever start a fight?
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I believe Capers has mentioned the importance of keeping your composure and the benefit of it when in the playoffs.
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As I recall, Robaire Smith knocked Leftwich silly in the first quarter of our last game against the Jags and rendered him useless for the rest of the game.

i dont know if youd call it getting knocked silly, lol lefty was on the ground and smith kinda pounced on him. but hey whatever works, ya know !!!
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and i like to see a lil pushing maybe a punch or two thrown, it gets the players blood pumping, we should see plenty of that this year with peek starting (i cant wait)
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self defense is protecting yourself or fighting back when a fight is occuring, self defense is not, "hey they did it to us, lets do it right back" thats called being a dummy and lowering yourself to another teams pothetic standards. Someone pointed out Robaire taking out Leftwich, Robaire did that within the legal rules of the game, and im pretty sure after that he got some respect. To gain respect and instill fear, you dont have to resort to cheap shots, you can play your game and get after people, AJ gets his respect, and a lot of coaching staffs and their teams are probably afraid of what he can do if they dont double cover him... did andre ever hit anyone, ever start a fight?

No, never did see AJ punch anyone, but I did see him yank a cornerback to the ground with one hand one time. That guy is really strong.
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self defense is protecting yourself or fighting back when a fight is occuring, self defense is not, "hey they did it to us, lets do it right back" thats called being a dummy and lowering yourself to another teams pothetic standards. Someone pointed out Robaire taking out Leftwich, Robaire did that within the legal rules of the game, and im pretty sure after that he got some respect. To gain respect and instill fear, you dont have to resort to cheap shots, you can play your game and get after people, AJ gets his respect, and a lot of coaching staffs and their teams are probably afraid of what he can do if they dont double cover him... did andre ever hit anyone, ever start a fight?
As I stated before, we'll have to agree to disagree.
Not interested in :brickwall about it.

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Old 05-23-2005   #36
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im a saints fan, riley played for us last year, he was involved in several fights and 1 occasion (it was 2 actually if im not mistaken) or rookie DE will smith knowcked him out in the loker room

he also arrived in new orleans on a suspension for ramming his car into his wifes car

he also false started a min of 2 times a game
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he also false started a min of 2 times a game
Make that a minimum of .5 per game. He had 8 false starts last year. The year before he had just 1.

Something clearly did go wrong with the guy last year though as in 2004 he gave up 11 sacks with 8 false starts and 3 holds while in 2003 he gave up just 2 sacks with 1 false start and 2 holds.
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