SI: Offseason Breakdown - Houston Texans

[infantrycak]

Originally Posted by Dutchrudder

The last INT would have never happened if we were up 3 instead of down 4. 2 INTs should pretty much be expected for a rookie QB against the Ravens' D.

I'm not laying the loss at either TJ or JJ's feet. But TJ did not play "well enough." He had a crap game. He was under 50%, had a miserable ypa and 3 INT's. It was a bad game for him. He did not play well enough.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by beerlover

Funny, maybe it's my selective memory kicking in? But don't remember being that upset with TJ in Ravens match-up. The defense was playing at such a high level the Ravens would have never scored except for Jacoby gift on the doorstop.

Well yeah.......

if you don't count the other 13 points they scored.

[ObsiWan]

Originally Posted by beerlover

probably, but Texans would have won if not for Jacoby coughing up the turnover. Yates played well enough.

Please... not this again.
edit...

you're right TPN...
We've beaten this subject to death already.

[The Pencil Neck]

Screw it.

It's not worth it.

[Rey]

Originally Posted by beerlover

Funny, maybe it's my selective memory kicking in? But don't remember being that upset with TJ in Ravens match-up. The defense was playing at such a high level the Ravens would have never scored except for Jacoby gift on the doorstop. I suppose if anything on Yates turnovers this game would have been a comfortable win, but Raven defense lives off turnovers. Flaco's not that much better than a rookie QB named Yates (Texans traded that pick which Baltimore used to take Joe. Kinda ironic if you think about it).

Yates didn't have a good game, but considering the circumstances I was more upset with what jacoby did than with what tj did. I didnt expect Yates to go into Baltimore and light them up. I did foolishly expect jacoby to not make that type of error.

[HOU-TEX]

Originally Posted by beerlover

That was Ed Reed. He makes a lot if QB's look silly. Sure TJ would like to have that one back, but that's what makes Reed the greatest safety of his era.

Actually, it was Ladarius Webb. TJ attempted to force it to AJ and threw it directly to Webb, who had AJ covered.

The 2nd INT was also Webb. TJ tried to force it to Walter who was double, borderline triple covered.

The last one was a toss up in the endzone that Reed picked off.

So, in the end, TJ had a miserable game. JJ had a miserable game

[beerlover]

Originally Posted by HOU-TEX

Actually, it was Ladarius Webb. TJ attempted to force it to AJ and threw it directly to Webb, who had AJ covered.

The 2nd INT was also Webb. TJ tried to force it to Walter who was double, borderline triple covered.

The last one was a toss up in the endzone that Reed picked off.

So, in the end, TJ had a miserable game. JJ had a miserable game

And Webb is now one of the highest paid CB's in the league, on par with Jonathan Joseph I see no disgrace in that?

[HOU-TEX]

Originally Posted by beerlover

And Webb is now one of the highest paid CB's in the league, on par with Jonathan Joseph I see no disgrace in that?

I don't think that has anything to do with my point.

My point is that TJ is just as much to blame JJ for that loss.

[beerlover]

Originally Posted by HOU-TEX

I don't think that has anything to do with my point.

My point is that TJ is just as much to blame JJ for that loss.

Kubes on Yates

“I think it’s kind of how he’s been playing for eight weeks. He made a lot of great plays in the game, and he made a lot of mistakes. Fortunately for us during the course of the eight weeks, his mistakes were not necessarily interceptions. Today they were interceptions. You can’t coach a kid enough, as a quarterback, about how good No. 20 [S Ed Reed] is in the middle of the field and what you need to do to control him. He found out the hard way today. Ed made some great plays back there.”

Yates on Reed & Raven D

“I knew we were facing one of the best defenses around, and I learned pretty quickly that just because I read the right coverage, it may not work. Ed Reed makes up for so much. He is all over the place. You may be making the right read, but Ed Reed will make a play anyway. He taught a lesson today.”

you draw your own conclusions I'll draw mine. I choose to give the Baltimore Raven defense some credit for his tough day & Texans loss, yet feel the deal breaker was still the fumble by Jacoby that broke Texans back

[b0ng]

Come on. When the hell has this board given a pass to a guy who threw 3 picks in a game? I am just as glad as the next Texans fan that TJ didn't piss away a 7-3 record like Caleb Hanie, but he hasn't done enough to warrant giving him a pardon on the Ravens game.

[badboy]

Originally Posted by HOU-TEX

I don't think that has anything to do with my point.

My point is that TJ is just as much to blame JJ for that loss.

I expect a 5th round selection to make rookie mistakes. Not so for a vet.

[HOU-TEX]

Originally Posted by b0ng

Come on. When the hell has this board given a pass to a guy who threw 3 picks in a game? I am just as glad as the next Texans fan that TJ didn't piss away a 7-3 record like Caleb Hanie, but he hasn't done enough to warrant giving him a pardon on the Ravens game.

I don't understand the TJ love myself, bro. To me, it's obvious our offense took a big step backwards when TJ ran it. Yet, there are a select few around here ready to toss Schaub out in favor of him. Sure, he made some good plays, but he's not anywhere comparable to Schaub.

Originally Posted by badboy

I expect a 5th round selection to make rookie mistakes. Not so for a vet.

Again, my point was short and simple. TJ and JJ both gave up that game. That's it. That was my only point. I don't care who he threw against, how much $ they made or whether he's a rookie or a vet.