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Old 06-19-2012   #21
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What reason do we have to not be optimistic about next season?
We lost 2/5ths of our starting OL. Our QB is on the wrong side of 30 coming back from major foot injury. Our stud WR is on the wrong side of 30 coming back from leg issues. We lost our stud DE, or field captain at LB, [strikethrough]Jacoby Jones..... [/strikethrough], Foster's done got paid.... Wade's second year Jinx & we still have Smithiak...


honestly, I'm just trying to be pessimistic. You know I've been the kool-aid man for most seasons, but we don't generally do as well as I had hoped.... I thought we were going to be hosting the AFC Championship game in 2010 (remember).

Then when I got worried.... when I wasn't believ'n... they go 10-6 & win a home play-off game despite losing said starting QB, DE, & stud WR for several games.

call me superstituous.
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Williams didnt play most of the season. Ryans played very little to start with.
In all honesty, the thing that does worry me the most, is our LBs. After Mario got hurt, the Defense was pretty healthy, I mean Sharpton got hurt, but then we replaced him with Demeco... so I don't really count that injury against us.

Barwin... Reed... Cushing... one of those guys go down & we're in deep doo-doo.

It's nice to replace a Mario Williams with a Barwin/Reed. It would have been nice to replace a Cushing with a Demeco.

Next year..... we'll be asking guys to step up who have no business stepping up. More Wishful thinking than anything.
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In all honesty, the thing that does worry me the most, is our LBs. After Mario got hurt, the Defense was pretty healthy, I mean Sharpton got hurt, but then we replaced him with Demeco... so I don't really count that injury against us.

Barwin... Reed... Cushing... one of those guys go down & we're in deep doo-doo.

It's nice to replace a Mario Williams with a Barwin/Reed. It would have been nice to replace a Cushing with a Demeco.

Next year..... we'll be asking guys to step up who have no business stepping up. More Wishful thinking than anything.
To the first bolded: It's the other way around obviously, that's what happened and Cush is still here. 'Meco has feathers now. Case closed.

2nd: What qualification do you have to make that determination? I'm going to believe in the staff that's brought us to this point.

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I mean Sharpton got hurt, but then we replaced him with Demeco... so I don't really count that injury against us.
In what alternate universe did this happen? Ryans started all 16 games last year. Sharpton started none.
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I definitely feel like the defense will have a strong chance at being better.
I do too... A lot of people have brought up stats about Wade Phillips' drop-off as a second year D-Coordinator. That said, someone said (I think it might've Barwin) that because of the shortened off-season last year that Wade had only installed about 75% of his defense. If true and coupled with the young talent on "D", you're right (and I've said it too), this defense can be even better than last year!!
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I do too... A lot of people have brought up stats about Wade Phillips' drop-off as a second year D-Coordinator. That said, someone said (I think it might've Barwin) that because of the shortened off-season last year that Wade had only installed about 75% of his defense. If true and coupled with the young talent on "D", you're right (and I've said it too), this defense can be even better than last year!!
Seems eerily reminiscient to the 2010 off-season
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In all honesty, the thing that does worry me the most, is our LBs. After Mario got hurt, the Defense was pretty healthy, I mean Sharpton got hurt, but then we replaced him with Demeco... so I don't really count that injury against us.

Barwin... Reed... Cushing... one of those guys go down & we're in deep doo-doo.

It's nice to replace a Mario Williams with a Barwin/Reed. It would have been nice to replace a Cushing with a Demeco.

Next year..... we'll be asking guys to step up who have no business stepping up. More Wishful thinking than anything.
Nah, I'm going to say If Reed or Barwin goes down, Mercilus will step in as did Reed. Now if Cush or Bradie is injured, uh oh. I am much more concerned with AJ going down again.
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Nah, I'm going to say If Reed or Barwin goes down, Mercilus will step in as did Reed. Now if Cush or Bradie is injured, uh oh. I am much more concerned with AJ going down again.
Look at how many times Jonathan Joseph has played all 16 games in a season.
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Season predictions this time of year... before T/C or preseason...?

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Unless something very weird happens, the Texans will win the AFC South again this year. That part I'm not worried about. What happens after we win the AFC South is what worries me. The football gods have a history of not being kind to Houston pro football teams.
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Unless something very weird happens, the Texans will win the AFC South again this year. That part I'm not worried about. What happens after we win the AFC South is what worries me. The football gods have a history of not being kind to Houston pro football teams.
I think the "football gods" have out so bad for the Houston pro football teams, that it spills over into our basketball and baseball team. How in the world did we go through 5 years of TMac and Yao and not even sniff a championship (yes, I was a fan during the championship years)? Almost 20 years of Biggio and Bags...only one world series appearance. Hey, Atleast the Comets were getting it in.
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We followed our 7-9 season with 2-14

We followed our 9-7 season with 6-10

Only stands to reason, we'll follow our 10-6 season with 8-8.....

it's simple math
If AJ and Schaub cant stay healthy I could see it.
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I do too... A lot of people have brought up stats about Wade Phillips' drop-off as a second year D-Coordinator. That said, someone said (I think it might've Barwin) that because of the shortened off-season last year that Wade had only installed about 75% of his defense. If true and coupled with the young talent on "D", you're right (and I've said it too), this defense can be even better than last year!!
The defense should be better next yr. Although the stats probably wont reflect this.

Facing Rodgers/Stafford/Cutler/Manning/Flacco isn't going to be easy.
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The defense should be better next yr. Although the stats probably wont reflect this.

Facing Rodgers/Stafford/Cutler/Manning/Flacco isn't going to be easy.
You threw Flacco in there as a joke right?
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And didn't mention Brady.
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Cutler too... I mean, who's gonna keep him upright against Wade's Wild Bunch?
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Seems eerily reminiscient to the 2010 off-season
DUDE!!! TK, seriously man, we need to get you on some Paxil or Cymbalta.... something!! You're killing my buzz.
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By that same token then, what reason do we have to be optimistic about next season?
Because the Texans have one of the best rosters in the NFL and are bringing their starting QB and top WR back healthy. Let's start there.
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I cannot fathom all this inward negativity from guys here that work in the draft forums. This is two years in a row Texans have surprised me with the quality & depth of their drafts, I think that is a huge reason to be optimistic moving forward not negative. I still hear 610 talking heads gush 2006 draft as the best, well who among them are still here & how much impact in 2012 will what remains impart? Wade Phillips came in here before 2011 draft & identified a course of action & really it starts with JJ Watt & Brooks Reed. He brought Cushing back to form from rookie season, rebuilt Kareem Jackson's role & has made some savvy free agent recommendations (Manning, Joseph, Bradie). Now add Mercilus to heal loss of Mario, then a cast of capable starting & role players in 2012 there is a lot to be fired up about. Is it Football Season yet
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