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Old 06-14-2012   #141
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General manager Rick Smith and coach Gary Kubiak crafted and fielded a team that made a major breakthrough last season: the Houston Texans’ first trip to the playoffs.

Owner Bob McNair had major faith in both of them, and with that progress and payoff the contract extensions they’ve both gotten are well deserved.

While fielding congratulatory messages, both Smith and Kubiak should make one important stop today in the office of defensive coordinator Wade Phillips to say thanks for his contribution.

They were smart enough to hire him, but the story of the Texans and the job security of Smith and Kubiak could be a far different tale but for the contribution of Phillips in his first year overseeing the defense.

Kubiak is an offensive head coach who calls the plays. Finding the right defensive "head coach" was a must for the franchise. And, coming out of a lockout, Phillips’ transformation of the group into a 3-4 with a real personality was nothing short of phenomenal.

His finger prints were on the draft selections of J.J. Watt and Brooks Reed, great fits for his system who made giant and immediate contributions. He saw how good Brian Cushing could be inside instead of outside. He voted for the plan that brought in Johnathan Joseph and Danieal Manning.

And, much to the Texans' relief, he took the pay bump McNair gave him late last season to pass on a trip to Tampa Bay to interview for the head coaching job.

Smith and Kubiak deserve applause and credit. I don’t see them as the type to rest on their laurels now. The division is primed for the taking again, and a second division title in the row could indicate that the franchise is only at the start of something big.

Something that might never have really gotten started and might have been scrapped but for Phillips’ contribution.

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/pos...thank-phillips
What pay bump? I thought Wade was still under his original contract. I must dis-remember (if so, maybe I can pitch for Yankees) but thought Wade decided he wanted to finish what he started and was obligated to Texans? Can someone provide link about this "bump"?
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What pay bump? I thought Wade was still under his original contract. I must dis-remember (if so, maybe I can pitch for Yankees) but thought Wade decided he wanted to finish what he started and was obligated to Texans? Can someone provide link about this "bump"?
I had not heard about the bump before.
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FOUR more years of RICK SMITH!!!!? Think I just might cry!

So much for my dreams of ever seeing our Texans win this
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My opinion on this is that I don't have one...
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General manager Rick Smith and coach Gary Kubiak crafted and fielded a team that made a major breakthrough last season: the Houston Texans’ first trip to the playoffs.

Owner Bob McNair had major faith in both of them, and with that progress and payoff the contract extensions they’ve both gotten are well deserved.

While fielding congratulatory messages, both Smith and Kubiak should make one important stop today in the office of defensive coordinator Wade Phillips to say thanks for his contribution.

They were smart enough to hire him, but the story of the Texans and the job security of Smith and Kubiak could be a far different tale but for the contribution of Phillips in his first year overseeing the defense.

Kubiak is an offensive head coach who calls the plays. Finding the right defensive "head coach" was a must for the franchise. And, coming out of a lockout, Phillips’ transformation of the group into a 3-4 with a real personality was nothing short of phenomenal.

His finger prints were on the draft selections of J.J. Watt and Brooks Reed, great fits for his system who made giant and immediate contributions. He saw how good Brian Cushing could be inside instead of outside. He voted for the plan that brought in Johnathan Joseph and Danieal Manning.

And, much to the Texans' relief, he took the pay bump McNair gave him late last season to pass on a trip to Tampa Bay to interview for the head coaching job.

Smith and Kubiak deserve applause and credit. I don’t see them as the type to rest on their laurels now. The division is primed for the taking again, and a second division title in the row could indicate that the franchise is only at the start of something big.

Something that might never have really gotten started and might have been scrapped but for Phillips’ contribution.

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/pos...thank-phillips
They should thank Wade.

As far as sitting on there laurels, after the much ballyhooed 9-7 season Gary decided to have an elective surgery (Sleep Apnea) during the combine, and left the scouting up to Rick and the rest of the scouts. This was followed by the KJ draft and a 6-10 season. Hopefully Gary learned from that.

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Per TC, three year extension. That would put Gary under contract through the 2015 season.

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They should thank Wade.

As far as sitting on there laurels, after the much ballyhooed 9-7 season Gary decided to have an elective surgery (Sleep Apnea) during the combine, and left the scouting up to Rick and the rest of the scouts. This was followed by the KJ draft and a 6-10 season. Hopefully Gary learned from that.

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Do you ever not post hate about KJ... I saw the KJ reference, looked up and sure enough, it was my buddy steelbtexan. lol Why so much hate man? Why?
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He saw how good Brian Cushing could be inside instead of outside.
Did anyone think Cushing was an option outside in a 3-4?
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Guys on the radio are speculating that maybe Kubes thinks he may be worth more after that 3rd year is done and didn't want to be locked into the current deal.
He's probably banking on something in the next two years to deserve a pay bump.....it's not gauranteed, but it's almost guaranteed that he won't coach the final year of a contract.
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They should both give Wade half.
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No, they shouldn't. Whether an extension was a great idea or deserved or not, ALL THREE did fantastic jobs in 2011.

Enough of this nonsense.
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No, they shouldn't. Whether an extension was a great idea or deserved or not, ALL THREE did fantastic jobs in 2011.

Enough of this nonsense.
So without Wade drafting Watt, and Reed and the team signing Joseph and Manning, and then doing a crash implementation of the 3-4 ... we make the playoffs?

Ditka tell him! ........... C'mon man!
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So without Wade drafting Watt, and Reed and the team signing Joseph and Manning, and then doing a crash implementation of the 3-4 ... we make the playoffs?

Ditka tell him! ........... C'mon man!
So Rick Smith gets NO credit for the draft or free agent acquisitions?
No credit for bringing in Antonio Smiff, either? What does a general
manager do, by-the-way?
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So without Wade drafting Watt, and Reed and the team signing Joseph and Manning, and then doing a crash implementation of the 3-4 ... we make the playoffs?

Ditka tell him! ........... C'mon man!
I suppose Wade drafted and coached up Duane Brown to a pro bowl LT or saw something in Arian Foster when the rest of the league didn't or saw something in Chris Myers when his old team (and most of us) did not or coached up a 5th-rd, rookie QB (that most of us non-draftniks hadn't heard of) sufficiently well enough to lead this franchise to it's first and only playoff win. Yeah... that was ALLLL Wade.

Everyone earned their keep last season. You take Wade's defense without Kubiak's offense and we have last year's 5-11 Jaguars. ...if we do that well considering the offensive players we lost during the year...
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FOUR more years of RICK SMITH!!!!? Think I just might cry!

So much for my dreams of ever seeing our Texans win this
Because we were certainly close to that BEFORE Rick came in.........
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So Rick Smith gets NO credit for the draft or free agent acquisitions?
No credit for bringing in Antonio Smiff, either? What does a general
manager do, by-the-way?
I am only talking specifically about last year, which is the only legitimate year this franchise has ever had. Rick does deserve credit for the moves he made that were positive before Wade arrived. But until Wade arrived, we were not a contender.
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I suppose Wade drafted and coached up Duane Brown to a pro bowl LT or saw something in Arian Foster when the rest of the league didn't or saw something in Chris Myers when his old team (and most of us) did not or coached up a 5th-rd, rookie QB (that most of us non-draftniks hadn't heard of) sufficiently well enough to lead this franchise to it's first and only playoff win. Yeah... that was ALLLL Wade.

Everyone earned their keep last season. You take Wade's defense without Kubiak's offense and we have last year's 5-11 Jaguars. ...if we do that well considering the offensive players we lost during the year...
I agree, as I told Dex I was simply referencing last year, which is the only really good year the franchise has had. Wade was the difference. All credit should be given to Gary and Rick on the positive contributions they have made, but without Wade it was just another failed year last year.
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I suppose Wade drafted and coached up Duane Brown to a pro bowl LT or saw something in Arian Foster when the rest of the league didn't or saw something in Chris Myers when his old team (and most of us) did not or coached up a 5th-rd, rookie QB (that most of us non-draftniks hadn't heard of) sufficiently well enough to lead this franchise to it's first and only playoff win. Yeah... that was ALLLL Wade.

Everyone earned their keep last season. You take Wade's defense without Kubiak's offense and we have last year's 5-11 Jaguars. ...if we do that well considering the offensive players we lost during the year...
Agreed and repped.

Extensions well deserved.
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Is Kubiak giving Wade 50% of his new contract?

While this extension isn't unexpected, taking only 3 years instead of 4 is fishy. For a coach who doesn't have a winning record, he seems to either be hedging his bets, thinking the next couple of years of assumed success are going to lead to a bigger payday.

Or, the conspiracy is, he's just getting paid until he makes the jump back to the Broncos.

Either way, I don't think Kubiak is as good as he thinks he is, or as good as Elway thinks he is. We'll see how things shake out over the next 10 years or so with his career. I think he's a perennial 8-8 coach without someone like Wade to prop him up.

Sorry to be Negative Nancy here, but he hasn't proven anything of much weight to me during his stay here. He's been blessed with top 10 talent at key skill positions. I'll give him the zone blocking scheme though...he's made me a believer that it can work...but I still don't believe you can throw any RB back there and they'll be a 1000 yard back each year.
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Either way, I don't think Kubiak is as good as he thinks he is, or as good as Elway thinks he is. We'll see how things shake out over the next 10 years or so with his career. I think he's a perennial 8-8 coach without someone like Wade to prop him up.
That's my feelings as well. I'm sure we can get worse head coaches, because we already have. But there are much better head coaches out there. I have faith this team will be a good one with BOTH Kubiak and Wade calling the shots. I don't really want Wade as head coach, because he hasn't proven himself there anymore that Kubiak has. But togeather, they are very good. Take someone out of the picture, and it begins to fall apart.
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