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Old 02-19-2012   #21
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Kubiak will get an extension this offseason. They may be waiting until free agency is over, as not to distract from that process. But, there's not a chance in hell McNair lets Kubiak coach on a lame duck contract.
I agree , no way McNair lets him coach a lame duck season.
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I think everyone is forgetting a problem with the team the last few years.. the mentality. How many times did the Texans come out looking uninterested and unmotivated? It happened a few times this season, but we just sweep it under the rug because of the overall good season that we had.
Don't forget Kubiak's lack of killer instinct and attack mode.
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Really, atleast your thinking outside the box.

What's Garys record?

What's Gary's record without Wade?

Does he really deserve an extention based on his W/L record?

Like I said before if BoB's proven one thing he wont buy out a HC with yrs remaining on his contract. Regardless of what the paying customers want. For this reason I would wait and make Gary prove himself again next yr.

Of course I would have fired Gary after the 2009 season. BoB didn't because he had just given Gary a contract extention. Hopefully history doesn't repeat itself.

Your kidding yourself if you dont think FA is about mostly $$$$. Why do you think the Texans defense improved last yr? BoB finally stepped up and gave Manning and Joseph the best deals they could find on the market. Your kidding yourself if you think that continuity/stability and all of that other crap that you're spewing mattered. 2 things matter to FA's 1. $$$$ 2. Winning. Luclily for the Texans Wade decided to sign/stay with the Texans so that helps mask Garys gameday gaffes. As long as Wade stay the Texans will have a winning org and Houston will become a desireable place for FA's to play.

If Wade leaves I full expect Gary to return to the same old Gary. Gary has learned on the Job. But my qeustion to you is why did it take him 6 yrs to learn and why did he suddenly become some great mind/HC after Wade joined the staff? Does Gary have a learning disability? 6 yrs really?
Shouldn't there be some attention paid to the difference between Wade's 1st year and subsequent years? He's usually great coming in, then the teams record falls off steeply and he becomes head coach after 2-3 years.
What happens if the offense picks up where it left off when Schaub got injured and the D falls back to middle of the pack? Too many if's to really be considered right now.
I'm good with however long of an extension McNair wants to give Kubiak. Kubiak can still be fired, regardless. Dumb question: do coaching staff salaries count against the cap? I've never paid any attention to that.
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I think everyone is forgetting a problem with the team the last few years.. the mentality. How many times did the Texans come out looking uninterested and unmotivated? It happened a few times this season, but we just sweep it under the rug because of the overall good season that we had.
Don't forget Kubiak's lack of killer instinct and attack mode.
I don't think I've ever bought the "uninterested & unmotivated" excuse. I just don't buy it. Just like I don't buy the "no effort" excuses.

If we come out & shut out the opposing team, we don't talk about how uninterested, or unmotivated they were. We talk about how we kicked their a$$ for the first three qtrs.

This is football, the other guys get paid, the other guys scheme, the other guys play this game at a level just as high as ours.

Teams make adjustment at halftime... mid quarter... mid drive. It's just part of the game.
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I don't think I've ever bought the "uninterested & unmotivated" excuse. I just don't buy it. Just like I don't buy the "no effort" excuses.

If we come out & shut out the opposing team, we don't talk about how uninterested, or unmotivated they were. We talk about how we kicked their a$$ for the first three qtrs.

This is football, the other guys get paid, the other guys scheme, the other guys play this game at a level just as high as ours.

Teams make adjustment at halftime... mid quarter... mid drive. It's just part of the game.
MSR!! Very good points, TK
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Kubiak will get an extension this offseason. They may be waiting until free agency is over, as not to distract from that process. But, there's not a chance in hell McNair lets Kubiak coach on a lame duck contract.
Wouldn't free agents want to know the long term situation of a coach they were to play for? I would have thought an announcement on a new contract would be very soon.
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Wouldn't free agents want to know the long term situation of a coach they were to play for? I would have thought an announcement on a new contract would be very soon.
Which FA's are you speaking of?he only ones we're capable of keeping are our own.
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Which FA's are you speaking of?he only ones we're capable of keeping are our own.
You keep making the same statement despite others showing how it can be done. That's cool but allow me and others to have our opinions. If Mario leaves that apprx $18m of cap space.
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You keep making the same statement despite others showing how it can be done. That's cool but allow me and others to have our opinions. If Mario leaves that apprx $18m of cap space.
How is me saying anything limiting what you or others have to say? At least give me credit for being consistent. BTW, your p[osts tend to be the same these says. Maybe it's an offseason/no news thing. *********
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How is me saying anything limiting what you or others have to say? At least give me credit for being consistent. BTW, your p[osts tend to be the same these says. Maybe it's an offseason/no news thing. *********
The topic of this thread is current and relevant to Texans future and to the fans. You consistently say we cannot sign free agents despite much evidence to the contrary. Why should you get credit for that? Your offseason/no news comment is another example of what I am talking about. Manning is in the news, Wade and Gary are worth talking about. Free agency, contracts, salary cap, injuries are topics to discuss. The combine starts in a few days and the draft is less than two months from now. Slow? Not for many of us. Most interesting offseason ever for me.
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The topic of this thread is current and relevant to Texans future and to the fans. You consistently say we cannot sign free agents despite much evidence to the contrary. Why should you get credit for that? Your offseason/no news comment is another example of what I am talking about. Manning is in the news, Wade and Gary are worth talking about. Free agency, contracts, salary cap, injuries are topics to discuss. The combine starts in a few days and the draft is less than two months from now. Slow? Not for many of us. Most interesting offseason ever for me.
You are quite mistaken. Read more than these forums, my friend.
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You are quite mistaken. Read more than these forums, my friend.
You make a statement without any support, again. I will state I do read much more than TT forums but do find much more info here. Now I am off for a homemade hamburger.
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You make a statement without any support, again. I will state I do read much more than TT forums but do find much more info here. Now I am off for a homemade hamburger.
I hope your home made hamburger is nowhere near as full of bull as you are.
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Emotions have cooled & it has been 2 weeks since last post (I could find). We had a great run despite major injuries especially to our offense. Like him or not, do you think Gary gets an extension before next season? I say yes & probably more than one year. This should also help in keeping, Myers & Briesel and later Schaub. Your thoughts?
Yep, I think Kubiak will get an extension, and that will be a mistake, because it will make it harder to get rid of him if he produces a disastrous 2012 season.
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All the players say Gary is a great leader. We dont see what happens behind closed doors. He has made questionable calls during the game, but for the most part we owe the success of this team to Kubes offense, and Wades defense. Neither can stand alone.
No kidding. So my post was directed about what I can see.
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I have no problem with him coaching on a lame duck contract. Puts the pressure on him again to succeed just like this past year.
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I have no problem with him coaching on a lame duck contract. Puts the pressure on him again to succeed just like this past year.
I don't either but the majority on here will argue against it. What is wrong with producing another winning season to get an extension? If the Texans fall back to mediocre then you cut ties and move on. Philadelphia let Andy Reid coach a lame duck season a year or 2 ago. It isn't unheard of in the NFL. But we all know McNair is way overboard when it comes to loyalty. We saw it with David Carr and also with Capers. And I think McNair holds Kubiak in a much higher regard than either of those 2.
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I wish I could get in McNair's mind. I hope the Texans success has raised the bar, meaning no more mediocre crap from this particular coach.
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I have no problem with him coaching on a lame duck contract. Puts the pressure on him again to succeed just like this past year.
does kubiak really seem like a guy that will coast or take things easy if hes given a contract?
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Through what I perceive as McNair's perspective, Kubiak has earned an extension with an AFCS title and playoff win at Reliant.

I've got no problem with it. Not my money. Just keep winning!
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