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Old 06-14-2012   #21
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And something else...

How in the hell does Duane Brown not make this list? He was the best LT in the NFL last season and a helluva lot better than some of the tackles listed. Heck you can even make a argument that Chris Myers should've been put on the list given some of the centers that were listed. Chris Myers was the 2nd or 3rd best center in the league last year.

Given the fact that our Oline has been regarded as one of if not the top unit in the league the past couple of seasons (one of the things that hurt Foster in this poll) and they still fail to put a player in the top 100 tells me that like how the players view foster as a "system player", they share the same exact view towards our offensive lineman.

If you don't want to put Myers in the top 100 I can somewhat except that, but to not add Duane Brown makes me null and void this entire list. The guy was the BEST LT IN THE LEAGUE last season and did not make the cut. I know he'll be on next years list, but the players who are voting are not voting correctly.. they're treating this list like some career achievement poll (probably the same reason why players at certain positions have to dominate for a few seasons before they're elected to the pro bowl.) instead of voting along the guide lines that were listed. It's the same reason why Peyton Manning made the list without playing a down last season and to prove that I'm not a homer... the same reason why Andre Johnson has yet to be listed.
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If you go to the NFL.com page it has the fan rankings for each player. What Texans are on the list so far, Cushing and Foster?
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Arian said on Twitter a few days ago that he has not met a single player that actually voted on this list.
This seems a bit dubious. His own teammate, Owen Daniels, has been shown writing down his votes multiple times on various episodes this season. He also has had several of his player comments aired.

And I'd like to second what someone said about Jacoby. JJ had some really nice things to say about Arian. He pretty well put into words feelings on the guy, especially when he said about that one TD run in the playoffs against the Bengals, "That sort of thing just doesn't happen in the NFL every week."
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Today on NFLN, Heath Evans picked the Texans to win the Super Bowl.

Sapp picked.....the Cleveland Browns. LMAO. Wow.

Evans dogged Sapp for the Browns selection for SB winner.

Also, they highlighted how Foster was #25 on the list, but they never really discussed if his ranking was right or wrong...it was bizarre. They showed clips of him running, title on the screen was Foster at #25, but they never really argued or expanded upon it in any way.

Did they agree? Why or why not? We don't know because they made no commentary on it. LOL. Amateur hour at NFLN.

Oh, and we also had obligatory Jets "news." Tebow saying the word "fun" every 6 words he spoke. "Tony Sparano is fun. When he's out there, it's so fun. He tells us when we do good, when we do bad. And it's been fun out there." I think he's intentionally being a goober. Has to be. Right? LOL.

Yesterday on ESPN NFL Live, and it's been the first time I've tuned in for like a month...three STRAIGHT "news" items the crew discussed was J-E-T-S, and the fourth item was Tuck's helmet (Giants news). Is it like this everyday? The New York Jets/Giants love fest? Geez, it was just so awful.
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Today on NFLN, Heath Evans picked the Texans to win the Super Bowl.

Sapp picked.....the Cleveland Browns. LMAO. Wow.

Evans dogged Sapp for the Browns selection for SB winner.

Also, they highlighted how Foster was #25 on the list, but they never really discussed if his ranking was right or wrong...it was bizarre. They showed clips of him running, title on the screen was Foster at #25, but they never really argued or expanded upon it in any way. Did they agree? Why or why not? We don't know because they made no commentary on it. LOL. Amateur hour at NFLN.

Oh, and we also had obligatory Jets "news." Tebow saying the word "fun" every 6 words he spoke. "Tony Sparano is fun. When he's out there, it's so fun. He tells us when we do good, when we do bad. And it's been fun out there." I think he's intentionally being a goober. Has to be. Right? LOL.

Yesterday on ESPN NFL Live, and it's been the first time I've tuned in for like a month...three STRAIGHT "news" items the crew discussed was J-E-T-S, and the fourth item was Tuck's helmet (Giants news). Is it like this everyday? The New York Jets/Giants love fest? Geez, it was just so awful.
I did see during the commercial break after foster was picked Sapp said that foster should have been way farther up the list.. Thats the only discussion i saw about it, pretty rediculous...
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How in the hell does Duane Brown not make this list?
Yeah I dont get it. Its supposted to be the Top 100 Players of 2012. But I think they are voting friends and best careers.
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I did see during the commercial break after foster was picked Sapp said that foster should have been way farther up the list.. Thats the only discussion i saw about it, pretty rediculous...
Thank you for pointing that out. I guess I zoned out and missed it.

To me, I think whomever is voting on these rankings...they have got some buddies they're ranking higher than they should be ranked. This feels like one of those times when Prom King and Queen is elected based on looks and how many letters they have on their athletic letter jacket.

Now way in hell is McCoy of the Eagles a better overall RB than Foster. But that's how it's ranked. Absurd. There's either some friendly voting going on, or people are a bit red-ass'd over the dominance of Foster.

Possibly Foster missing the first four games of 2011 was a factor, but still...
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Grat video...... I'm going to miss Jacoby. I remember Arian calling him his brother in another video.

I didn't expect him to have so much bass in his voice.
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Today on NFLN, Heath Evans picked the Texans to win the Super Bowl.

Sapp picked.....the Cleveland Browns. LMAO. Wow.

Evans dogged Sapp for the Browns selection for SB winner.
the question was actually which team is next to win their first superbowl..
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Arian seems like one of those annoying people who always has something to be pissed off about. We all know at least one of them,

Great news for the Texans given how he channels that frustration though
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And something else...

How in the hell does Duane Brown not make this list? He was the best LT in the NFL last season and a helluva lot better than some of the tackles listed. Heck you can even make a argument that Chris Myers should've been put on the list given some of the centers that were listed. Chris Myers was the 2nd or 3rd best center in the league last year.

Given the fact that our Oline has been regarded as one of if not the top unit in the league the past couple of seasons (one of the things that hurt Foster in this poll) and they still fail to put a player in the top 100 tells me that like how the players view foster as a "system player", they share the same exact view towards our offensive lineman.

If you don't want to put Myers in the top 100 I can somewhat except that, but to not add Duane Brown makes me null and void this entire list. The guy was the BEST LT IN THE LEAGUE last season and did not make the cut. I know he'll be on next years list, but the players who are voting are not voting correctly.. they're treating this list like some career achievement poll (probably the same reason why players at certain positions have to dominate for a few seasons before they're elected to the pro bowl.) instead of voting along the guide lines that were listed. It's the same reason why Peyton Manning made the list without playing a down last season and to prove that I'm not a homer... the same reason why Andre Johnson has yet to be listed.


Priscoe over at CBS Sports but Brown at #22 in his top 100:

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Was just reading through some Free Agency grades on Walterfootball and saw this tidbit:

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Eagles extend RB LeSean McCoy (5 years, $45M; $20.765M guaranteed): A Grade
LeSean McCoy is easily a top-five NFL running back, so the Eagles are getting a steal with this contract, especially when you consider that Arian Foster, a lesser talent, obtained $22.5 million guaranteed. This is such a great deal because in addition to McCoy being a stud, he's also just 23 years old and doesn't have much wear and tear on his body. He has just 635 career carries, so he'll be able to play at a high level for a very long time.
http://walterfootball.com/freeagents2012recap.php

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Did that fool really call Arian a lesser talent like he is just some guy?

Lmao. Ok, you think McCoy is better, but the way it was worded just sounded like he was saying Arian wS no where near mccoy's level. Basically McCoy is king and Arian is a peasant.

Ok I guess.
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Did that fool really call Arian a lesser talent like he is just some guy?

Lmao. Ok, you think McCoy is better, but the way it was worded just sounded like he was saying Arian wS no where near mccoy's level. Basically McCoy is king and Arian is a peasant.

Ok I guess.
It's a pretty stupid statement, absolutely ignorant... You can say McCoy is better and that's fine.. but a "lesser talent"? Foster is one of the most talented muffhuggas out there...does absolutely amazing things with his feet...has the best hands at RB in the league...

Maybe he's trying to say Arian plays in a system which allows for him to succeed more than McCoy in his system? Hell i dunno...guy needs his card pulled...
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How many times has LeSean McCoy led the league in rushing?

LeSean McCoy is just a system guy. He's in the same system that produced Brian Westbrook.
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LeSean McCoy is just a system guy. He's in the same system that produced Brian Westbrook.
It is fair to observe Vick has an affect. Teams have to protect outside more to keep Vick from escaping which loosens the D up in the interior some.

Another observation is he gets a lot of very short dump off receptions. He has 50% more receptions than Foster but less yardage.
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It is fair to observe Vick has an affect. Teams have to protect outside more to keep Vick from escaping which loosens the D up in the interior some.

Another observation is he gets a lot of very short dump off receptions. He has 50% more receptions than Foster but less yardage.
It's not just Vick, although Vick has an effect. McNabb was also well-suited to the system at his best. It's the way Reid's offense is set up with that short passing game and stretching the defense.

Honestly, I was just joking because Arian isn't given the credit he deserves because some people call him a system guy. But Reid's offense constitutes a system of its own. Guys like Westbrook and Staley did very well in it because of how it opens up the run using the pass. Lots of the runs are draws and most of the passes are short dumps and screens. It's almost the inverse of the Kubiak approach.
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I don't understand anyone calling Arian a "lesser product" to anyone really. Just blows my mind, it's like he's never watched him.
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