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Old 06-10-2012   #21
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Look up the 63 page "Jacoby's Got To Go" thread on here and you will have all the information about him you will ever need.
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And running sideline to sidline and not north/south.
I still don't understand how you can tackle a guy that doesn't have his hands on the ball......

The coverage guys knew he muffed it yet he out right tackled him.

Doesn't change a dumb ass decision though.......
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I still don't understand how you can tackle a guy that doesn't have his hands on the ball......

The coverage guys knew he muffed it yet he out right tackled him.

Doesn't change a dumb ass decision though.......
While agree Jacoby was stupid I was also wondering how there wasn't a flag on the Ravens there.
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While agree Jacoby was stupid I was also wondering how there wasn't a flag on the Ravens there.
I have wondered that as well. Once he muffs the ball doesn't that tackle become a block in the back?
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Wondering what you guys think of him.
Just get behind him and hope he overcomes and achieves. Sometimes a change of environment makes all the difference.
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I have wondered that as well. Once he muffs the ball doesn't that tackle become a block in the back?
Make that unanimous.
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Forgive me for not remembering the details but,

There was a game against the Titans in Tennessee about 2 years ago and late in the 4th quarter Jacoby coughed up the ball on a punt that he fielded around the 5 yard line and Tennessee recovered. Due to some weird rule that nobody knew about at the time the Texans maintained possession and won the game.

Jacoby avoided catastrophe.

In a 2011 regular season Texans game Jacoby fielded a punt off the bounce around the 15 yard line and had a very nice return. Again forgive me for not remembering the exact game but I remember cursing him for fielding the ball in the first place even though he had a good return.

Jacoby avoided catastrophe again.

In the playoffs he made the same mistake he has made over and over. This time it hurt us enough to get rid of him and I couldn't be happier. There is a reason we all held our breath when Jones returned a punt.

As a receiver I think Jones is extremely limited. Like everyone says, he might make a big play or two but he will also drop passes and disappear completely at times.
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JJ reminds me of a little kid in a man's body. One that hasn't learned how to focus, and has an attention span of about 3 sec. IF he ever grows up he just MIGHT be a decent player. Unfortuately, he'll be much to old when that day comes!
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People are correctly identifying problems but being overly harsh IMO. He is a very good open field runner whether it be on punt returns or after a catch. He is a danger to take one all the way at any time. He has problems making catches. He has problems not just accepting he is going to be tackled at times and taking what he can get (applies to both returns and passes) so you will get some stupid looking -3 yard returns and then he will bust one for 50 yards when you thought he was going to be nailed for 3. He is a poor route runner - rounds them off and seems to have issues with depth as in break at 10 v. break at 13 leaving the QB looking like he threw a bad pass. He is an above average run blocker.

He has all the physical ability to be a star but can't seem to put it together and I know from someone close Andre Johnson has put a lot of effort into trying to get JJ to put it together. Not sure y'all have someone who can be a better mentor than AJ and make it click for JJ.
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I think he's the perfect #3 for you guys. You have Boldin, you have Smith, no one is going to be expecting Jacoby to be your #1 receiver. But he'll do his job, get open, attract attention away from Boldin & Smith, help out your vertical game, & block downfield, helping to spring some big runs.

I wouldn't be looking to put him on my fantasy team, he's a #3, no more, no less.
These two assessments are as close to objective as you'll get around here. Many Texans fans think he SINGLE-HANDEDLY cost us the playoff game against you guys. While Jones' early game screw up certainly didn't help us, I think that's a really weak excuse [three INTs!!]. But that's a totally different conversation. I only bring it up to let you know that those viewpoints are the reason you may not get an objective assessment on Jones from most of my MB buddies.

Now, having said that, my earlier post still stands.


He's had his shot here. It's time for us to upgrade.
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I have wondered that as well. Once he muffs the ball doesn't that tackle become a block in the back?
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Make that unanimous.
I guess that's what we all figured.
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I have wondered that as well. Once he muffs the ball doesn't that tackle become a block in the back?
After my last post I read yours. Wasn't the decision in the Titans game I talked about that you could not interfere with the returner until the ball hit the ground?

Seems contradictory what happened in the Ravens game and what happened in Titans game I mentioned.
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Exhibit A ... Jacoby has hands the size of a Garo Yeprimian .
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Still a little sour about it.
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When plays like that happen, I've always looked at it like when a pass is tipped, and a defender is given clearance to lay anyone out near the ball because it's been touched.
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Exhibit A ... Jacoby has hands the size of a Garo Yeprimian .
yup, he's got those hands from the burger king commercial. i guess that's what happens when you grow from 5'7" to 6'2" in college...
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After my last post I read yours. Wasn't the decision in the Titans game I talked about that you could not interfere with the returner until the ball hit the ground?

Seems contradictory what happened in the Ravens game and what happened in Titans game I mentioned.
In the Titan's game he called for fair catch, which gives him rights to the ball until it touches the ground.

In the Raven's game he did not call for a fair catch.
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In the Titan's game he called for fair catch, which gives him rights to the ball until it touches the ground.

In the Raven's game he did not call for a fair catch.
Ah, thank you for that. He still muffed the punt badly in the Titans game though.
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I have wondered that as well. Once he muffs the ball doesn't that tackle become a block in the back?
No as original contact is made after the bobble and resulted in him not catching it at all .... if he's a reciever trying to catch it you do the same thing. Good play IMO.
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No as original contact is made after the bobble and resulted in him not catching it at all .... if he's a reciever trying to catch it you do the same thing. Good play IMO.
I realize possession was not established yet but gunners and other ST members are not allowed to just run down field and tackle people. He got outright tackled and from the rear. That dude full on wrap tackled JJ. There's a reason you don't see that all over the field on kicks/punts.
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I realize possession was not established yet but gunners and other ST members are not allowed to just run down field and tackle people. He got outright tackled and from the rear. That dude full on wrap tackled JJ. There's a reason you don't see that all over the field on kicks/punts.
The defender hesitated giving him opportunity to make the catch , the bobble comes a split second before contact .... I think its a good play on the defenders part.

You have to take into consideration that the defenders job is to tackle the guy with the ball .... For all he knows , JJ caught it and he's tackling him. Kind of a heat of the moment thing , you cant really make a call like that.

JJ had no business catching that ball .... not even a fair catch at that point the defender was on top of him.
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