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Old 06-03-2012   #1
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I didn't know this. This is an article from 2010 after Braylon Edwards was arrested .
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These things happened despite the fact most teams in the league offer some form of car service intended to keep players (and coaches, trainers, scouts and front office executives) away from the kind of incident that Edwards found himself in last week. The league has a contract with a company through which individual teams can subcontract car services. (The NFLPA recently ended its relationship with Safe Rides Solutions and contracted with another company called Corporate Security Solutions; the NFL still uses Safe Rides Solutions for all non-players and NFL corporate employees.) The Jets are among the 22 teams in the league, according to information given to The Associated Press, which provide car service to players for their personal use. The Jets use PlayerProtect, a New York/New Jersey firm that provides armed security from current or former law-enforcement agents and a 24-hour driving service.

On the surface, it's simple: Been out and drinking? Don't drive. Call the car service.

But clearly, these services aren't always being used. Edwards could have called PlayerProtect, but didn't. Nor did the other players and club personnel who've been stopped recently for suspicion of driving while intoxicated play it safe.


So the question is: Why not? Why wouldn't players take advantage of that protection, especially in the wake of the tragic March 2009 accident involving Donté Stallworth that resulted in the death of a pedestrian and a guilty plea from Stallworth on a DUI manslaughter charge?

Why isn't a program that seems to make so much sense being used?

A number of current and former players spoke on that question, mostly off the record. Their reasons included everything from an unwillingness "to leave a $400,000 Bentley in the parking lot of a strip club overnight" in favor of a safe ride home to the simple inconvenience of having to get a ride back to their cars the next day in time to make it to a practice or workout. Some of the players pointed to a fear of ramifications from the club if it found out through a car service's records where they'd been and what they'd been doing.

It isn't that these players aren't concerned about their own safety or the safety of others in these situations. Most of them take the dangers of drunken driving seriously. They are also seriously concerned about issues of privacy and confidentiality.

"It's like someone is keeping tabs on us," Houston Texans tackle Ephraim Salaam said. "What we do on our private time should not always be privy to our employers."

One player, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, used the Edwards situation to make that point. He said Edwards wasn't punished by the Jets for being issued a DUI. Instead, he was held out of the starting lineup against the Dolphins on Sunday night because, according to general manager Mike Tannenbaum, he had been out too late.
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A number of current and former players spoke on that question, mostly off the record. Their reasons included everything from an unwillingness "to leave a $400,000 Bentley in the parking lot of a strip club overnight" in favor of a safe ride home to the simple inconvenience of having to get a ride back to their cars the next day in time to make it to a practice or workout.
Hell, I dont even like leaving my pick-up overnight at a strip club. So you know what I do?? I take a cab to the strip club and eliminate that dilema altogether.
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The players' example excuses for not using the service such as when driving a $400,000 Bentley to a club is pure BS.

National Directory of Designated Driver Services

The drunk person is furnished a ride home with the paid driver either taking the drunk person home in the drunk person's own car........or the drunk person's car is driven home by a seperate paid driver. These driver services are available virtually all over the country. They are insured and bonded. No room for excuse for these players.

Here is an example of rates for one in Harris County (BeMYDD):


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Personal Driver Service / Designated Driver Service $14.50 / Hour

Pickup Service $25.00 Car Pickup + Mileage
.....................$2.95 / Mile (First 10 Miles)
.....................$1.50 / Mile (Each Additional)

And here is BEMYDD's rates for Stillwater, Arkansas (Blackmon's watering hole):


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Personal Driver Service / Designated Driver Service $12.50 / Hour

Pickup Service $25.00 Car Pickup + Mileage
.....................$2.95 / Mile (First 10 Miles)
.....................$1.50 / Mile (Each Additional)

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Report: League’s Safe Rides program is no more


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Quietly, it’s gotten slightly more difficult for NFL players who have had too much to drink to get home without having to drive.

Mike Freeman of CBSSports.com reports that the league’s Safe Rides program, which provided free rides for players how believed they had had too much to drink, has been disbanded.

As Freeman explains it, the NFL handed the keys to the union in 2009 due to concerns that the league was using the service to spy on players. But, per Freeman, the NFLPA didn’t publicize the service so fewer players used it so the NFLPA eventually quit providing it.

Now, the function is provided, if at all, by the individual teams.

It would make sense for all parties involved for the league and the union to jointly resurrect the program, with both sides working together to ensure that no player will have his use of the service used against him. It would also make sense to get it back together ASAP, since offseason programs are ending and players will be left to their own devices until training camp.

Until the league, the union, and the teams come up with a viable and reliable solution, NFL players will have to act like the rest of us and have the presence of mind to call a cab. We hope they can afford the fare.
Notwithstanding the fact that the players should on their own act more responsibly, this is another example of how responsible the NFLPA is to their own membership.
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The players' example excuses for not using the service such as when driving a $400,000 Bentley to a club is pure BS.

National Directory of Designated Driver Services

The drunk person is furnished a ride home with the paid driver either taking the drunk person home in the drunk person's own car........or the drunk person's car is driven home by a seperate paid driver. These driver services are available virtually all over the country.
Interesting. Maybe I might attend the next company happy hour. Like I said, I haven't quit drinking, I just quit drinking and driving.
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Hell, I dont even like leaving my pick-up overnight at a strip club. So you know what I do?? I take a cab to the strip club and eliminate that dilema altogether.
Why don't you just buy a strip club, Bill?
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Came across this article that explains the NFL's designated driver policy, when it was in force. It was the NFLPA that took it over from the NFL because of complaints by "certain" players........and it was the NFLPA that "adjusted/watered down" the program an ceased publicizing it to the membership and eventually ceased the program altogether under the auspices of non use.......It was not the NFL.

The original policy as you will read left no room for the excuse of the player not wanting to leave his expensive car in the parking lot.

The article was not accurate when stating players did not have private alternatives that met their needs (refer to my previous posts re. Pay For Designated Services located throughout the nation).

The NFLPA is as hypocrytical as the NFL in its facade of protecting their players. But the players remain the greatest hypocrits of all demanding protection for themselves by others while consciously ignoring their own safety and, more importantly, the safety of others.

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By Doug Farrar | Shutdown Corner – Sun, Jun 10, 2012 10:15 AM EDT

Jacksonville Jaguars receiver Justin Blackmon's recent DUI arrest brought an issue back to the forefront that is very much on the minds of NFL clubs -- what are the best ways to curtail the combination of alcohol and impaired driving? According to Mike Freeman of CBS Sports, one of the best "diversions" in recent years has gone by the wayside, and nobody seems to understand why.

The "Safe Rides" program, started a number of years ago by a former police officer, allowed NFL players to phone in to a call center anonymously if they were out on the town and found themselves too impaired to get behind the wheel. As Freeman describes, it worked like this:

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[The player] could arrange a car service to pick him (and friends) up and use that car service for the night. Or, incredibly, if the player wanted to use his own car, and got very drunk, the player could call the service, and an off-duty police officer would drive the player and his car home for him.
Not a bad deal, especially for those of us who wonder, whenever guys like Blackmon get popped for driving way over the legal limit, why they won't set themselves up for safety when they have more than enough money to do so. Moreover, the service was free!

Here's the problem, though -- because certain players believed that their calls would get back to their teams and be used against them, the NFLPA took the service over a few years ago, as Freeman reports, around 2009. The NFLPA switched to a lesser-known company and didn't publicize the service among the players. So, players didn't avail themselves of the service, and it eventually fell by the wayside. At this time, there is no known service for players who find themselves in such a position, unless they want to flag a cab or set up a designated driver program among friends before the party begins.

Of course, the responsibility lies with the player in question to keep himself on the straight and narrow (or have someone else driving if he can't), and there's no indication that Blackmon would have used the service had he known about it. When it comes to DUI, this wasn't his first rodeo.

But having those kinds of services available seems to make sense in a league that expresses more and more concern about off-field behavior. And if the league is going to be less and less patient about things like this, there needs to be more going on than just simple aversion therapy. Players who think they're 10 feet tall and bulletproof may not get the point at all, but the available option of a safe, league-endorsed, "safe home" program that truly protects the anonymity of the players (so they'll actually use it) seems like a good idea.

Enough of a good idea, in fact, to be a rare point of agreement between the NFL and NFLPA. As much as Blackmon's arrest will be used as a cautionary tale for rookies and veterans alike (as it should), it should also be used as an example for those who would like to "protect the shield" on both sides that players need to feel safe in calling out if they need help.
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Even if the program was still up and going I dont think you would see anything different. The players and many people are foolish enough to either think they can "handle" their alcohol or they dont want others to think they cant handle their alcohol.
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Even if the program was still up and going I dont think you would see anything different. The players and many people are foolish enough to either think they can "handle" their alcohol or they dont want others to think they cant handle their alcohol.
That's the problem with our current law. It's OK to drink and drive in this country. As long as you are .08 or lower, the message has been that it's OK. So the judgment call of whether they're .08 or lower has been left to people that have been consuming a substance that impairs judgment. That's just brilliant all around. The law needs to be changed to zero tolerance. If you drink, it's illegal to drive. Simple, no subjectivity, and no guessing where you are on that scale.
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That's the problem with our current law. It's OK to drink and drive in this country. As long as you are .08 or lower, the message has been that it's OK. So the judgment call of whether they're .08 or lower has been left to people that have been consuming a substance that impairs judgment. That's just brilliant all around. The law needs to be changed to zero tolerance. If you drink, it's illegal to drive. Simple, no subjectivity, and no guessing where you are on that scale.


Im not sure a zero tolerance is the answer at all. FWIW you can be arrested and convicted at a BAC under .08 if you are so impared that you can not safely opperate your motor vehicle. Most people that get DWI/DUIs I would guess are well over .08
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Im not sure a zero tolerance is the answer at all. FWIW you can be arrested and convicted at a BAC under .08 if you are so impared that you can not safely opperate your motor vehicle. Most people that get DWI/DUIs I would guess are well over .08
There are a lot of things in life where zero tolerance doesn't make sense. Drinking and driving, on the other hand, leaves the judgment call to people that have been consuming a substance which impairs judgment.
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There are a lot of things in life where zero tolerance doesn't make sense. Drinking and driving, on the other hand, leaves the judgment call to people that have been consuming a substance which impairs judgment.


Well I highly doubt the laws will change to 0.00 bac limit so maybe contructing something to address the issue that is a little more plausible could be of more benefit. Hell 6 monthm 1 year or 2 year manditory jail time for first offense, 2-4 year for second 10 + for 3rd etc. How about the nfl issue a one year suspension for 1st time, 3 years for 2nd time etc
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