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Old 05-30-2012   #101
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Thanks for providing. I certainly would need to here the audio.

He is dogging UNC and UT and shows three horns and Peppers? As I mentioned, he is a trainer. Definitely not a PR guy.
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Thanks for providing. I certainly would need to here the audio.

He is dogging UNC and UT and shows three horns and Peppers? As I mentioned, he is a trainer. Definitely not a PR guy.

I dug it up for you and others to hear accurately and in totality. Here's the "In the Trenches" segment that included the interview with Dan Arnold re D. Jones (begins at the 16 minute mark):

http://www.sports790.com/player/?sta...l&mid=22132850
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Gary Kubiak leaves door open for Dwight Jones to return
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A day after rookie wide receiver Dwight Jones was a no-show at practice amid reports he had quit the team, Texans coach Gary Kubiak left the door open for him to return.

Kubiak was asked if any other receivers were absent on Wednesday aside from Jones, an undrafted free agent from North Carolina.

“Nobody quit (today),” Kubiak said, cracking a smile. “No, that’s tough. I talked to him (Jones) a couple times, and he had a good college career and he’s a talented young man. It’s a grind. It’s tough out here. Hopefully, he’ll get home and things will feel a little better about it and he’ll come back and give it another try someday. He’s a very good athlete.”

It’s uncommon for a player to up and quit (I can’t recall seeing it in the five-plus years I’ve been with the Texans), and it would seem even more peculiar for that player to reverse course and come back. Either way, it was a classy move by Kubiak to extend the olive branch during his post-practice meeting with the media.

As of now, Jones is still on the Texans’ roster. We’ll report back with any updates in the coming days and weeks.
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Class handling of this by Kubes.
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When was the last time a udfa wash out got this much attention with the texans? Man needs to grow up. When he has to find a real job he might see how good he had it.
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The quote I read, didn't sound like Kubiak said he could come back to the Texans...sounded like he was saying "maybe he'll take another shot at it some day..." meaning in-general.

I bet if he came back this week, Kubiak would let him. Past Friday, he'll be off the roster.
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When was the last time a udfa wash out got this much attention with the texans? Man needs to grow up. When he has to find a real job he might see how good he had it.
Very ignorant statement...... If the kid's heart isn't in it then why should he continue playing? Everybody criticizing him doesn't know what's in his heart. It's obvious he doesn't truly enjoy the game of football, so he doesn't need to play for me, you, or anyone else.
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Very ignorant statement...... If the kid's heart isn't in it then why should he continue playing? Everybody criticizing him doesn't know what's in his heart. It's obvious he doesn't truly enjoy the game of football, so he doesn't need to play for me, you, or anyone else.
That sounds all nice and idealistic. You are assuming he has something he truly enjoys and has a talent to achieve. Lots of people don't have the skill to achieve what they truly believe they would enjoy. Lots of people are lazy and just not going to truly enjoy anything. So unless you have something lined up both in his mind and as a practical possibility then no it isn't ignorant to say he shouldn't walk away at this point. Working hard enough to ride the bench could set him up from league minimum alone to make more likely something he truly enjoys.
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That sounds all nice and idealistic. You are assuming he has something he truly enjoys and has a talent to achieve. Lots of people don't have the skill to achieve what they truly believe they would enjoy. Lots of people are lazy and just not going to truly enjoy anything. So unless you have something lined up both in his mind and as a practical possibility then no it isn't ignorant to say he shouldn't walk away at this point. Working hard enough to ride the bench could set him up from league minimum alone to make more likely something he truly enjoys.
For what though? If he doesn't want to play then he doesn't want to play! It doesn't make sense for him to try busting his butt if it's not in his heart. I know plenty of guys that could have played professionally but they just didn't love the game enough to put in the work every day. I don't knock them for it. People are saying he's stupid and immature. Maybe people need to realize that he just doesn't have passion for the game. I know a bunch more like him if that's the case.
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I hate when people say "If it was me I'd kill for the chance to play in the NFL". People don't live or play the game for YOU! Let this kid make whatever decision he wants to make and live his OWN life.
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For what though? If he doesn't want to play then he doesn't want to play! It doesn't make sense for him to try busting his butt if it's not in his heart. I know plenty of guys that could have played professionally but they just didn't love the game enough to put in the work every day. I don't knock them for it. People are saying he's stupid and immature. Maybe people need to realize that he just doesn't have passion for the game. I know a bunch more like him if that's the case.
It's called practicality and taking advantage of opportunity. Did he graduate? - is his plan to go back if not. Was his degree in anything useful that "he has heart" for or did he just pick something which sounded easy and is now useless? Does he understand the unemployment rate right now?

We don't know all of the answers to these type questions and if he has a well established plan with a reasonable means of success which will make him truly happy them more power to him. If he is just walking off from $250 k without a plan other than to go live with his mom until maybe getting a menial job while he figures out what he enjoys then he is a dumbass regardless of how much he enjoys the game.
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See my correction. Sorry for the confusion.. I meant to write NORTH Carolina.
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For what though? If he doesn't want to play then he doesn't want to play! It doesn't make sense for him to try busting his butt if it's not in his heart. I know plenty of guys that could have played professionally but they just didn't love the game enough to put in the work every day. I don't knock them for it. People are saying he's stupid and immature. Maybe people need to realize that he just doesn't have passion for the game. I know a bunch more like him if that's the case.
In this case, it appears likely due to the little fish in the big pond conversion. It takes much more work for that formerly big fish to survive with all the bigger fish nipping at his tail.
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It's called practicality and taking advantage of opportunity. Did he graduate? - is his plan to go back if not. Was his degree in anything useful that "he has heart" for or did he just pick something which sounded easy and is now useless? Does he understand the unemployment rate right now?

We don't know all of the answers to these type questions and if he has a well established plan with a reasonable means of success which will make him truly happy them more power to him. If he is just walking off from $250 k without a plan other than to go live with his mom until maybe getting a menial job while he figures out what he enjoys then he is a dumbass regardless of how much he enjoys the game.
For such a smart guy I'm surprised you're taking this stance. I feel pretty strong about this for certain reasons, but this guy doesn't need to explain anything to anyone. If he feels like its not something he wants to pour his all into then no one should question that.
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In this case, it appears likely due to the little fish in the big pond conversion. It takes much more work for that formerly big fish to survive with all the bigger fish nipping at his tail.
Then you know what that tells me? He doesn't love the game like LeStar Jean or Holliday to push through the bad times. So why keep putting yourself through something when you don't love it? Because Cak says you should? I'm with him if he's not 100 percent bought in.
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For such a smart guy I'm surprised you're taking this stance. I feel pretty strong about this for certain reasons, but this guy doesn't need to explain anything to anyone. If he feels like its not something he wants to pour his all into then no one should question that.
He probably, then, should have thought about it a little bit more before making his public comments.
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He probably, then, should have thought about it a little bit more before making his public comments.
To be the next Andre Johnson? I think he was trying to convince himself at that point. Everything I've read about this kid suggests that he's not a hard worker and hasn't put his all into the game. That leads me to believe that he never really wanted it.
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I dug this major thread on the NC forum. It is worth following it through the entirel 3 pages (3rd page best)........entertaining and informative. Looks like his recent actions could have been predicted.........and evidently was by at least 31 NFL teams.

Undrafted Dwight Jones: Poster boy for UNC Underachievement
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Does anyone else take solace in the fact that the Texans have become a team that demands a high work ethic to succeed?

Personally, I'm ecstatic. Whether D. Jones decides to stop tucking it or not, I'm proud to be a Texans fan.
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Does anyone else take solace in the fact that the Texans have become a team that demands a high work ethic to succeed?

Personally, I'm ecstatic. Whether D. Jones decides to stop tucking it or not, I'm proud to be a Texans fan.
+1. I agree.
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