Can Schaub lead them to the superbowl ??? - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

**EllisUnit** · 05-21-2012

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May 18, 2012 - Is Matt Schaub capable of leading the Texans to a Super Bowl? Despite throwing for 4,000+ yards in multiple seasons, despite multiple seasons with a 2/1 TD/INT ratio, despite a trip to the Pro-Bowl; fans still don't seem to be convinced that Schaub can get the job done. Is Schaub elite? Certainly not, no rational person would argue that. Schaub in my opinion is on that next tier after the elite QB's, who given enough talent around them, and I think the Texans have assembled that, can still take their team to the Super Bowl. Don't forget that before his injury, the Texans were 7-3 (4 wins without Andre Johnson), and were considered a favorite along with the Patriots to reach the Super Bowl.

Some fans have this image of Schaub as not clutch, as a guy not capable of leading a 4th quarter drive, but I think they suffer from term memory loss. Does he lead comebacks as often as Manning or Brady? No, but again, he's not elite. He does have his share of comeback victories though like in 2010 vs. the Redskins and Chiefs, and others he should have on his record but the defense gagged away the victory like in 2010 when he led the Texans to 20 4th quarter points against the Jets before the defense gave up 70 yards in 45 seconds. People don't remember that though, they remember that he's never played in a playoff game, and that injuries have cut short 3 of his seasons with the Texans. Making it worse, a 5th round rookie accomplished in his first attempt what Schaub never has. I however don't take that as a sign that Schaub isn't capable, or that Schaub has lost his spot as a team leader. I take that as the Texans finally have the pieces around their quarterback to make a run. Schaub never had a defense around him until last season and until Foster broke out, he didn't have a reliable running game. The pieces are in place, I expect to see them continue the type of play that got them to 7-3 last year before Schaub's injury.

Fans will continue to make angry phone calls when he throws a pick, but I don't believe the fans doubt reflects how the team feels. Players and coaches openly talked about David Carr's lack of effort, passion for the game, and leadership ability; you never hear that about Schaub. They believe he can get the job done. With a top 5 defense and the best running back in the game, you don't exactly need a Hall-of-Fame QB to win a championship. Fans are fickle, just think about how Philadelphia fans regard Donovan McNabb after he led them to a Super Bowl and 4 other NFC Title games. Fans can complain all they want, backup quarterbacks are always popular, but remember Yates' 3 picks vs. the Ravens in the divisional round; I think they would have won that game with Schaub.

i love the underline bold part, truiest thing i have ever seen a columist write for sure. And for all those who say schaub isnt clutch !!!!

Corrosion · 05-21-2012

Schaub would have a few more comeback wins if his defense could have held on to late leads .... I can think of two off the top of my head in 2010 - Jags , Jets.

Joe Texan · 05-21-2012

Do the Cowboys SUCK

**Texan_Bill** · 05-21-2012

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Originally Posted by Joe Texan

Do the Cowboys SUCK

Oh HELL YEAH!!!!!!!

TEXANRED · 05-21-2012

In order for Schaub to lead us to a Superbowl he would have to stay healthy and finish a season. So the answer, for me, is no.

The Pencil Neck · 05-21-2012

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Originally Posted by TEXANRED

In order for Schaub to lead us to a Superbowl he would have to stay healthy and finish a season. So the answer, for me, is no.

If Chris Chandelier can lead a team to the Super Bowl, Matt Schaub can.

Beer and Metal · 05-21-2012

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Originally Posted by TEXANRED

In order for Schaub to lead us to a Superbowl he would have to stay healthy and finish a season. So the answer, for me, is no.

Look at how his injuries happened. It's mostly cheap shots and illegal hits. He's not the stoutest QB, but I don't think he's fragile.

TheDream34 · 05-21-2012

The question with Schaub is not ability, but it's durability. I have no doubt in my mind that if Schaub was healthy last years, we're in the Super Bowl.

steelbtexan · 05-21-2012

Lets hope so or the Texans are screwed.

If he can stay healthy, then the answer would be yes.

Unfortunately history says he cant stay healthy, so the answer is no.

**infantrycak** · 05-21-2012

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Originally Posted by Beer and Metal

Look at how his injuries happened. It's mostly cheap shots and illegal hits. He's not the stoutest QB, but I don't think he's fragile.

In addition they aren't repetitive injuries. It's a concussion, then a shoulder, then a foot, etc. I get far more concerned when the same injury keeps cropping up.

aussie_texan · 05-21-2012

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Originally Posted by Beer and Metal

Look at how his injuries happened. It's mostly cheap shots and illegal hits. He's not the stoutest QB, but I don't think he's fragile.

Rey · 05-21-2012

Either way you slice it schaub has had a problem staying healthy. No disputing that.

Can he lead the team to a superbowl?

Sure, why not?

VTexan · 05-21-2012

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Originally Posted by Joe Texan

Do the Cowboys SUCK

ThaShark316 · 05-21-2012

Ask me at the parade.

gary · 05-21-2012

Anything can happen. Will it?

TheEastwood · 05-21-2012

Who does Haynesworth play for now? Do they play against him next year? Dude is like Schaub's kryptonite. Haynesworth is to Schaub as Pollard is to the Patriots

If Schaub stays healthy then, yes, he can definately get a ring. Guy is almost ridiculously underrated. Can run for **** but makes up for being rediculously unathletic by being a smart qb. Is it just me or did Schaub actually run when he first got here. I seem to remember him having like a 18 yard rush straight up the middle his first year here against atl.

**False Start** · 05-21-2012

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Originally Posted by Texan_Bill

Oh HELL YEAH!!!!!!!

**infantrycak** · 05-21-2012

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Originally Posted by TheEastwood

Who does Haynesworth play for now? Do they play against him next year? Dude is like Schaub's kryptonite. Haynesworth is to Schaub as Pollard is to the Patriots

Nobody has picked him up since he was released by the Bucs.

Premier · 05-21-2012

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Originally Posted by Corrosion

Schaub would have a few more comeback wins if his defense could have held on to late leads .... I can think of two off the top of my head in 2010 - Jags , Jets.

in that jags hail mary game there was some poor decision making and poor clock management on schuabs part that led to a turnover which set the jags up in hail mary distance...

the playoffs are a different animal, i need to see him come up clutch in the playoffs before we anoint him a superbowl caliber QB.. what we do know is that hes a qb that wont put a team in the playoffs without a top 10 defense..

Corrosion · 05-22-2012

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Originally Posted by TheEastwood

Who does Haynesworth play for now? Do they play against him next year? Dude is like Schaub's kryptonite. Haynesworth is to Schaub as Pollard is to the Patriots

If Schaub stays healthy then, yes, he can definately get a ring. Guy is almost ridiculously underrated. Can run for **** but makes up for being rediculously unathletic by being a smart qb. Is it just me or did Schaub actually run when he first got here. I seem to remember him having like a 18 yard rush straight up the middle his first year here against atl.

That was HWWNBM .... and he was injured at the time.

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EllisUnit Homerism Champ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: San Antonio Section: 2" from the TV, Screaming. Age: 28 Posts: 4,180 Rep Power: 16441	Can Schaub lead them to the superbowl ??? http://houston.sbnation.com/houston-...the-super-bowl May 18, 2012 - Is Matt Schaub capable of leading the Texans to a Super Bowl? Despite throwing for 4,000+ yards in multiple seasons, despite multiple seasons with a 2/1 TD/INT ratio, despite a trip to the Pro-Bowl; fans still don't seem to be convinced that Schaub can get the job done. Is Schaub elite? Certainly not, no rational person would argue that. Schaub in my opinion is on that next tier after the elite QB's, who given enough talent around them, and I think the Texans have assembled that, can still take their team to the Super Bowl. Don't forget that before his injury, the Texans were 7-3 (4 wins without Andre Johnson), and were considered a favorite along with the Patriots to reach the Super Bowl. Some fans have this image of Schaub as not clutch, as a guy not capable of leading a 4th quarter drive, but I think they suffer from term memory loss. Does he lead comebacks as often as Manning or Brady? No, but again, he's not elite. He does have his share of comeback victories though like in 2010 vs. the Redskins and Chiefs, and others he should have on his record but the defense gagged away the victory like in 2010 when he led the Texans to 20 4th quarter points against the Jets before the defense gave up 70 yards in 45 seconds. People don't remember that though, they remember that he's never played in a playoff game, and that injuries have cut short 3 of his seasons with the Texans. Making it worse, a 5th round rookie accomplished in his first attempt what Schaub never has. I however don't take that as a sign that Schaub isn't capable, or that Schaub has lost his spot as a team leader. I take that as the Texans finally have the pieces around their quarterback to make a run. Schaub never had a defense around him until last season and until Foster broke out, he didn't have a reliable running game. The pieces are in place, I expect to see them continue the type of play that got them to 7-3 last year before Schaub's injury. Fans will continue to make angry phone calls when he throws a pick, but I don't believe the fans doubt reflects how the team feels. Players and coaches openly talked about David Carr's lack of effort, passion for the game, and leadership ability; you never hear that about Schaub. They believe he can get the job done. With a top 5 defense and the best running back in the game, you don't exactly need a Hall-of-Fame QB to win a championship. Fans are fickle, just think about how Philadelphia fans regard Donovan McNabb after he led them to a Super Bowl and 4 other NFC Title games. Fans can complain all they want, backup quarterbacks are always popular, but remember Yates' 3 picks vs. the Ravens in the divisional round; I think they would have won that game with Schaub. i love the underline bold part, truiest thing i have ever seen a columist write for sure. And for all those who say schaub isnt clutch !!!! __________________ Texans will beat NE in the AFC Championship, and win this seasons Super Bowl !!!! 6-11-2013

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Corrosion Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2004 Location: Northwest Houston Age: 44 Posts: 27,158 Rep Power: 60779	Re: Can Schaub lead them to the superbowl ??? Schaub would have a few more comeback wins if his defense could have held on to late leads .... I can think of two off the top of my head in 2010 - Jags , Jets. __________________ I have no tolerance for stupidity.

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TEXANRED Texan-American Join Date: Jan 2005 Age: 37 Posts: 5,988 Rep Power: 12236	Re: Can Schaub lead them to the superbowl ??? In order for Schaub to lead us to a Superbowl he would have to stay healthy and finish a season. So the answer, for me, is no. __________________ I am in an abusive relationship with life and I am to cowardly to leave it. - Homer Simpson.

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TheDream34 Veteran Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 104 Rep Power: 556	Re: Can Schaub lead them to the superbowl ??? The question with Schaub is not ability, but it's durability. I have no doubt in my mind that if Schaub was healthy last years, we're in the Super Bowl.

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steelbtexan Hall of Fame Join Date: Feb 2007 Age: 50 Posts: 8,911 Rep Power: 22920	Re: Can Schaub lead them to the superbowl ??? Lets hope so or the Texans are screwed. If he can stay healthy, then the answer would be yes. Unfortunately history says he cant stay healthy, so the answer is no.

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Rey Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 11,989 Rep Power: 48885	Either way you slice it schaub has had a problem staying healthy. No disputing that. Can he lead the team to a superbowl? Sure, why not?

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ThaShark316 #28 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Rosharon, TX Age: 28 Posts: 2,277 Rep Power: 8460	Re: Can Schaub lead them to the superbowl ??? Ask me at the parade. __________________ Trip to the New Meadowlands in 2014? I'm down. You'll get an ELITE QB when you apologize to Warren Moon, Houston

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gary Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: North Pole Age: 20 Posts: 20,444 Rep Power: 17571	Re: Can Schaub lead them to the superbowl ??? Anything can happen. Will it? __________________ Without the strength to endure the crisis, one will not see the opportunity within. It is within the process of endurance that opportunity reveals itself. Chin-Ning Chu -

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TheEastwood Veteran Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 176 Rep Power: 703	Re: Can Schaub lead them to the superbowl ??? Who does Haynesworth play for now? Do they play against him next year? Dude is like Schaub's kryptonite. Haynesworth is to Schaub as Pollard is to the Patriots If Schaub stays healthy then, yes, he can definately get a ring. Guy is almost ridiculously underrated. Can run for **** but makes up for being rediculously unathletic by being a smart qb. Is it just me or did Schaub actually run when he first got here. I seem to remember him having like a 18 yard rush straight up the middle his first year here against atl.

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