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[ObsiWan]

Originally Posted by beerlover

somebody mention beer

Ninkasi!!

...or is that Namaste...?

[Rey]

[CloakNNNdagger]

LB Cushing out with sore knee
by Brandon Williams, CBSSports.com

Coach Gary Kubiak said that ILB Brian Cushing would miss a couple of days with a sore knee. Cushing did not practice with the team on Monday, as Kubiak added there is no serious concern with the issue.

Not reported here, but Cushing's MRI was negative. This early into the offseason, you would still tend to have concern, especially if it is his right knee (previous patellar tendon surgery).

[Playoffs]

Nick Scurfield ‏@NickScurfield
WR Trindon Holliday (ankle) didn't practice today- could miss rest of week.
NT Loni Fangupo (knee) has yet to return #Texans

[The Medic01]

Originally Posted by CloakNNNdagger

Not reported here, but Cushing's MRI was negative. This early into the offseason, you would still tend to have concern, especially if it is his right knee (previous patellar tendon surgery).

Big deal or not.

[CloakNNNdagger]

Originally Posted by The Medic01

Big deal or not.

Hard to tell with so little info. But one thing that would come to mind, if it is his post surgical knee, is patella (knee cap) chondromalacia (softening of the cartilage on the back side of the patella. Before the surgery for a rupture of the patellar tendon, this area can be traumatized The longer the process of rupture developing and being recognized, the more potential trauma probable, since the patella would not move in a stable fashion over the knee joint, and therefore a grinding away of the cartilage of the back of the patella. Once the tendon is repaired, if it is a little to tight or a little too loose, some additional grinding can occur. Even if the tightness is just right following the surgery, it can theoretically loosen to lead to some instability and continue grinding. Then, of course, any previous grinding that has led to wear away of the cartilage can result in a late and chronic arthritis and its accompanying "soreness." Furthermore, the surgical incision itself can be sore for several years, especially if solidly or repeatedly hit.

Besides not being told which knee, we aren't told if there is swelling, redness or ROM (range of motion) problems. Another injury, in either knee, could have occurred somewhere along the line. We are told that this soreness has been noted throughout the offseason workouts. This could also be a result of the injury at the end of the season, where he was temporarily pulled with a "knee injury." Just too many potential variables and not enough details. Sorry. I can't respond in a more affirmative fashion.

[ObsiWan]

Originally Posted by CloakNNNdagger

Hard to tell with so little info. But one thing that would come to mind, if it is his post surgical knee, is patella (knee cap) chondromalacia (softening of the cartilage on the back side of the patella. Before the surgery for a rupture of the patellar tendon, this area can be traumatized The longer the process of rupture developing and being recognized, the more potential trauma probable, since the patella would not move in a stable fashion over the knee joint, and therefore a grinding away of the cartilage of the back of the patella. Once the tendon is repaired, if it is a little to tight or a little too loose, some additional grinding can occur. Even if the tightness is just right following the surgery, it can theoretically loosen to lead to some instability and continue grinding. Then, of course, any previous grinding that has led to wear away of the cartilage can result in a late and chronic arthritis and its accompanying "soreness." Furthermore, the surgical incision itself can be sore for several years, especially if solidly or repeatedly hit.

Besides not being told which knee, we aren't told if there is swelling, redness or ROM (range of motion) problems. Another injury, in either knee, could have occurred somewhere along the line. We are told that this soreness has been noted throughout the offseason workouts. This could also be a result of the injury at the end of the season, where he was temporarily pulled with a "knee injury." Just too many potential variables and not enough details. Sorry. I can't respond in a more affirmative fashion.

I remember that game now that you mention it. We all almost fainted when he hobbled over to the sideline. But I think Cush came back in before that series was over.

[TimeKiller]

Originally Posted by powda

It's the offseason...what did you expect?

Ha, you're right. I don't know, I'm still baffled at the negativity towards a 6th round flyer who may or probably may not be the 53rd best player on the team because Kubiak mentioned him a couple times.

Originally Posted by GP

Follow someone else clown.

[Texans_Chick]

Originally Posted by CloakNNNdagger

Not reported here, but Cushing's MRI was negative. This early into the offseason, you would still tend to have concern, especially if it is his right knee (previous patellar tendon surgery).

Didn't see him favoring it or it wrapped in ice like they do near the end of practice with a number of guys. Can't say what knee it is. I could try to find out though GK dodges some of those questions.

[Texans_Chick]

Originally Posted by Playoffs

Nick Scurfield ‏@NickScurfield
WR Trindon Holliday (ankle) didn't practice today- could miss rest of week.
NT Loni Fangupo (knee) has yet to return #Texans

I talked to Fangupo. He said he hoped to return by "next Tuesday." Terribly polite, nice guy.

[Texans_Chick]

Today the team worked on red zone a lot. TJ and Beck looked pretty good. Case is still figuring out where the ball is supposed to go.

Nice catches by a lot of guys.

[Kaiser Toro]

Originally Posted by Texans_Chick

I could try to find out though GK dodges some of those questions.

What would Patches O'Houlihan do?

[Texans_Chick]

Originally Posted by Kaiser Toro

What would Patches O'Houlihan do?

He would duck. I would dodge and get hit by a wrench.

[CloakNNNdagger]

Originally Posted by Texans_Chick

Didn't see him favoring it or it wrapped in ice like they do near the end of practice with a number of guys. Can't say what knee it is. I could try to find out though GK dodges some of those questions.

Swelling isn't necessarily present with chondromalacia of the patella, articular cartilage wear or meniscus tear or degenerative arthritis.........severe pain or "soreness," though can be, and is "invisible." Would be appreciated if your could find out anything else.

[GP]

Originally Posted by TimeKiller

Follow someone else clown.

LOL, come on man. You can't hold a grudge forever.

Not when I pull out all the stops and do THIS:

[steelbtexan]

Yeah

T-Killer can hold a grudge with the best of them.

Ask some of the guys in the TT mock draft.

[Blake]

Originally Posted by steelbtexan

Yeah

T-Killer can hold a grudge with the best of them.

Ask some of the guys in the TT mock draft.

[Texans_Chick]

Here's my OTA writeup for today with also some stuff from the TD Club luncheon with Kubiak as speaker.

Today's Quote Sheet.

[drs23]

Originally Posted by Texans_Chick

Here's my OTA writeup for today with also some stuff from the TD Club luncheon with Kubiak as speaker.

Today's Quote Sheet.

Thanks TC, good read, though I dislike going on that chron site, I will if I have to to read what you've got to say. It's always well written and informative.

Thanks again.

[Texans_Chick]

FWIW, I've been told they are working on the site some for a redo.

Ultimately, I think having a daily newspaper, even if not always perfect, is a net benefit for city.

I'm a subscriber.