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[JimBaker488]

Originally Posted by Texans_Chick

They are going to stay on Brooks with the weight.

Well it's not working so far, he's definitely off to a bad start.
Whether he's a big guy or more of an average size for his position, an issue with weight control/management obviously indicates a lack of discipline which is a real bad indicator for an NFL rookie, especially one they will basically be forced to carry on the active roster.

[CloakNNNdagger]

From SI:

Posted: Tuesday June 12, 2012 4:50 PM
Rookie Brooks a big presence on Houston o-line

HOUSTON (AP) - Listed at 346 pounds, Houston rookie guard Brandon Brooks outweighs anyone else on the team and is the heaviest player to ever suit up for the Texans.

Houston normally favors offensive linemen who are a bit smaller than the third-round pick, though they have said they don't see his size as a hindrance and insist he can do everything they want him to do.

Still, coach Gary Kubiak was unhappy with the player after he showed up to Tuesday's minicamp heavier than he was in their last workout.

"I did not like what I saw today,'' Kubiak said. "He's overweight and he's got to get down. But he's got a chance to be a good player.''

Some outsiders questioned Houston's decision to draft the Miami, Ohio, star because most of the Texans' linemen weigh closer to 300 pounds than 350.

"With his size and stuff, there's been talk about that he's not our type of guy,'' Kubiak said. "That's bull ... he may not look like some of the guys we've played with before, but he's just as athletic, so he's done a good job.''

Brooks knows he has to think about his waistline and said he's trying to eat more salads instead of "eating junk food all the time.''

"I've got to make sure I stay under control with my weight,'' he said. "I don't want it to get too high.''

He believes that if he plays the right way, pretty soon people will stop worrying about his weight.

"I just make sure that the angles I take to make my blocks are proper and I think by focusing on my technique that will eliminate how heavy I am,'' he said. "I can still get (to my blocks).''

The Texans are counting on Brooks to develop quickly with the loss of veteran offensive linemen Eric Winston and Mike Brisiel in free agency. Antoine Caldwell is penciled in as the starting right guard to replace Brisiel, who started 13 games for the Texans in 2011 before signing with the Raiders this offseason. But Brooks has already worked with the first team some and will certainly push Caldwell, who appeared in just five games last season.

"I see flashes that he's capable of being a starter in this League,'' Kubiak said of Brooks. "He's got a great opportunity. He's out there going head-to-head with (Caldwell) every day. It will be interesting to see how he does once we put the pads on.''

Though Brooks weighs a lot, he carries it better than some players of his size because of his muscular 6-foot-5 frame. He's always been interested in weight lifting and staying in shape in part because his father Robert Brooks was a bodybuilder when the younger Brooks was a child.

"Growing up every boy wants to be just like their dad and I started lifting weights from an early age and it continues to help me to this day,'' he said, adding that he began lifting weights at age seven or eight.

When he was younger, his father's fitness level seemed normal to him, but looking back the things he was doing probably shaped his approach to fitness.

"(He was) just like any other father except that he's curling close to 225,'' Brooks said with a smile. "That's what I was used to seeing.''

The transition to the NFL has been easier for Brooks because he played in a zone blocking scheme similar to the one Houston uses in college. But his head has still been swimming as he's tried to learn his new playbook.

"My playbook in college was like a magazine compared to the playbook here,'' he said. "So I've just been spending extra time and getting here an hour or two early to watch film and go over the playbook and that has really helped me out so far.''

[Playoffs]

The quote from Kubes on Brandon Brooks:

(on G Brandon Brooks) “I did not like what I saw today. He’s overweight and he’s got to get down, but he has a chance to be a good player. Can you send that message to him? (laughs)”


Just think they're going to stay on him as they're counting on him to contribute this year.

[JimBaker488]

Originally Posted by Playoffs

The quote from Kubes on Brandon Brooks:

(on G Brandon Brooks) “I did not like what I saw today. He’s overweight and he’s got to get down, but he has a chance to be a good player. Can you send that message to him? (laughs)”


Just think they're going to stay on him as they're counting on him to contribute this year.

They are stuck with him on their active roster whether they like him or not. They can't move him to the practice squad because as a third-round pick somebody would snatch him up - probably somebody who runs an Oline with power-schemes where this big boy belongs. Texans better hope they weren't too cute by half on this pick ?

[steelbtexan]

Originally Posted by JimBaker488

They are stuck with him on their active roster whether they like him or not. They can't move him to the practice squad because as a third-round pick somebody would snatch him up - probably somebody who runs an Oline with power-schemes where this big boy belongs. Texans better hope they weren't too cute by half on this pick ?

Dont worry Brooks will be starting at one of the OG spots by the end of the yr. Just because he's big doesn't mean he cant move well enough to be effective in the ZBS. Brooks ran a 4.99 40 and had great 10-20 splits and BP'ed 225 Lbs 32 times if I remember correctly.

[Corrosion]

Originally Posted by steelbtexan

Dont worry Brooks will be starting at one of the OG spots by the end of the yr. Just because he's big doesn't mean he cant move well enough to be effective in the ZBS. Brooks ran a 4.99 40 and had great 10-20 splits and BP'ed 225 Lbs 32 times if I remember correctly.

From what Ive heard .... and my sources are as bad as John McLaim's (all his are in Hillbilly Holler) .... the bold has a very good chance of being truth.

[Honoring Earl 34]

Originally Posted by Corrosion

From what Ive heard .... and my sources are as bad as John McLaim's (all his are in Hillbilly Holler) .... the bold has a very good chance of being truth.

I've got trained spy pigeons who told me this is part of the process for a rookie who they really like .

[rmartin65]

Originally Posted by Corrosion

From what Ive heard .... and my sources are as bad as John McLaim's (all his are in Hillbilly Holler) .... the bold has a very good chance of being truth.

All you have to do is watch the tape. He moves like a man 50-60 pounds lighter.

People need to screw the measurements, and just trust what they see on the field.

[CloakNNNdagger]

Originally Posted by steelbtexan

Dont worry Brooks will be starting at one of the OG spots by the end of the yr. Just because he's big doesn't mean he cant move well enough to be effective in the ZBS. Brooks ran a 4.99 40 and had great 10-20 splits and BP'ed 225 Lbs 32 times if I remember correctly.

SBT........Why are you so mean?..............he benched 36...........next thing, you're going to spread the lie that I only benched 39!

[steelbtexan]

Originally Posted by CloakNNNdagger

SBT........Why are you so mean?..............he benched 36...........next thing, you're going to spread the lie that I only benched 39!

You're the only man I know that can bench press twice your weight 39 times. LOL

[CloakNNNdagger]

Originally Posted by steelbtexan

You're the only man I know that can bench press twice your weight 39 times. LOL

Lies, I say! They're all lies!

[Rey]

Doesn't seem like Brooks is too concerned, basically brushing it off and saying my play will make you forget my weight.

Could get sticky.

[ObsiWan]

Originally Posted by Rey

Doesn't seem like Brooks is too concerned, basically brushing it off and saying my play will make you forget my weight.

Could get sticky.

Has Brooks signed a rookie contract? If so, I wonder if that weight bogey is in there as an incentive...?

[Wolf6151]

I think the Texans are counting on Brooks contributing this year thus they're getting on him about his weight because they have such high hopes for him. They care about him thus they're getting on him, if they didn't care then they wouldn't care about how big he got. I can see him getting playing time at both LG and RG spots and then taking Smiths place at LG in 2013 permanantly when we cut Smith at the end of the year to save some money for salary.

[CloakNNNdagger]

Originally Posted by Wolf6151

I think the Texans are counting on Brooks contributing this year thus they're getting on him about his weight because they have such high hopes for him. They care about him thus they're getting on him, if they didn't care then they wouldn't care about how big he got. I can see him getting playing time at both LG and RG spots and then taking Smiths place at LG in 2013 permanantly when we cut Smith at the end of the year to save some money for salary.

If he ultimately demonstrates good mobility, it wouldn't surprise me to see him eventually tried at RT also.

[TejasTom]

Originally Posted by HOU-TEX

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I'm not real sure how Brooks can just be overweight in less than a week, but it appears he has

The discovery of Tex-Mex.

[CloakNNNdagger]

Nick Scurfield‏@NickScurfield
Kubiak on rookie G Brandon Brooks: "I did not like what I saw today. He was overweight. I'm not real happy with him right now

Stephanie Stradley‏@StephStradley
Kubiak: Brandon Brooks last weigh in not acceptable. Was doing good before.

From these quotes, I'm not necessarily taking that he has gained weight, but that he has not lost weight to a level (and on a schedule) that Kubiak feel comfortable with. During the draft, everyone was projecting him for a power line. And it was said many times that if he were taken by a ZBS team, he would need to drop some weight. Kubiak himself has said so much. He and Brooks disagree on his ideal playing weight............not a smart challenge on the part of Brooks.

[Marcus]

Originally Posted by CloakNNNdagger

From these quotes, I'm not necessarily taking that he has gained weight, but that he has not lost weight to a level (and on a schedule) that Kubiak feel comfortable with. During the draft, everyone was projecting him for a power line. And it was said many times that if he were taken by a ZBS team, he would need to drop some weight. Kubiak himself has said so much. He and Brooks disagree on his ideal playing weight............not a smart challenge on the part of Brooks.

Darn right it wasn't. Now every reporter under the sun will be hounding him forever about his weight. Ah well, there's really only one way to learn something, and that's the hard way.

[281]

He's getting long in the tooth, but I'm excited to see what Moran Norris can still do. He seemed to block pretty well for Frank Gore these past few years. Hopefully he sticks.

[DX-TEX]

Originally Posted by TejasTom

The discovery of Tex-Mex.

Elvis Presley Memorial Combo at Chuy's.....godlike.