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Old 06-08-2012   #241
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2010 I picked Cushing and Barwin
2011 Unfortunately I got KJ rght
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Thanks for the rep Senor Stan (I dont know how to do the squiggly line thingy.) LOL

So I get a few right too.
Wasn't knockin, just trying to justify my own manlovefest with K-Martin/manhatefest with Mike Martin lol...I think we all got a few right this year, who didn't see Bullock coming a mile away?

I was up on Crick and had actually spent some time reading about Jones and Posey but I didn't think either were a Texans selection. I asked for Loiseau in one mock too. Since the 1st pick this year was so wide open for the Texans I really spent most of my time researching later round picks. To be completely honest, I would've never guessed on Mercilus but where the draft was...I'm happy.

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2010 I picked Cushing and Barwin
2011 Unfortunately I got KJ rght
2012 This yr was Brandon Brooks

Thanks for the rep Senor Stan (I dont know how to do the squiggly line thingy.) LOL

So I get a few right too.
Now, Steel, we've talked about your KJ, bashing...come on now. I can't wait til 1 of 2 things happens. Either KJ becomes the corner we need this year, and you will owe me some rep, or KJ will be awful, and I will owe you rep.

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- A scary moment was reported when tightend Owen Daniels and cornerback Brice McCain collided with each other during pass drills. Both finished practice without any issues.

Kubiak (on if he held his breath on the collision) “Yeah, I sure did. We busted a route, made a mistake on a route and unfortunately, that’s football. Golly, just trying to teach but we’re lucky right there.”
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How many years have we been talking about this same thing? And have any really contributed and been remembered shortly after their signings? They have all been pulled from the abyss.......just to sink back into the abyss. If we are to knock out a space on the final roster from any of our promising young receivers, the vet better offer a solid advantage over such a move.........and not be a presence based on performance he demonstrated 5 years ago.
I get what you're saying, but thats because we've only picked up journeyman type of players or guys at the back end of their careers at the position. I like the "potential" of our young guys but this board would go nuts if we ever have to start Posey and Jean. Its a good possibility that AJ and Walter will miss at least 1 game this year. I just pray it won't be at the same time.
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The Texans will have a kicker competition through training camp between rookie Randy Bullock, who was perfect in his first competition in front of the team and has consistently boomed kickoffs 6-7 yards deep in practice, and veteran Shayne Graham, who signed with the Texans in May.

The Texans are also looking for a kick returner to replace Jacoby Jones. Safety Danieal Manning suggested Thursday that he won’t return kicks in 2012. Wide receivers Keshawn Martin, a rookie fourth-round draft pick from Michigan State, and DHolliday, a third-year pro out of LSU, appear to be the frontrunners for the jo
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I get what you're saying, but thats because we've only picked up journeyman type of players or guys at the back end of their careers at the position. I like the "potential" of our young guys but this board would go nuts if we ever have to start Posey and Jean. Its a good possibility that AJ and Walter will miss at least 1 game this year. I just pray it won't be at the same time.
I wouldn't go nuts... I would be intrigued at the possibility of seeing the future. I'd much rather have a inexperienced young buck who has a load of potential and his entire career ahead of him over a burned out player like Keenan McCardell or Derrick Mason who have absolutely nothing left in the tank.

We drafted these guys for a reason and their going to have to gain experience sometime... if it happens through a unfortunate injury, so be it.
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I wouldn't go nuts... I would be intrigued at the possibility of seeing the future. I'd much rather have a inexperienced young buck who has a load of potential and his entire career ahead of him over a burned out player like Keenan McCardell or Derrick Mason who have absolutely nothing left in the tank.

We drafted these guys for a reason and their going to have to gain experience sometime... if it happens through a unfortunate injury, so be it.
I don't think anyone wants to see any more Masons or Bryant Johnsons. The only way I say we bring someone in is if they can push Kevin Walter to get onto the field. Otherwise I agree that we stand pat. The reason I say that is because I agree the back end of our rotation should be younger guys. Bryant Johnson really didn't serve a huge purpose on the team last year. I'm intrigued to see the young kids play too. But not lined up against Woodon and Williams and the rest of the Green Bay D without AJ and Walter.
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Danieal Manning to Brian Cushing: "Start leading by example before you open your mouth."
http://www.battleredblog.com/2012/6/...ple-before-you
Actually, that's not what he said, it's paraphrased, and accordingly shouldn't be in quotation marks.

I don't like to post negative comments, but I had a bad day today so here goes. Got home, logged on and read the above comment from Thursday's OTAs. My first reaction was to think that Manning needs to shut the f*ck up and stop talking out of school. Then I listened to the video and now I'm not sure what he meant. Here's the video:
http://www.houstontexans.com/tv-medi...d-9cb90293626a

What he said was "like I said about Cush, you know you want to come out here and lead with example before you want to start opening your mouth, and that's what I'm trying to do." Is he agreeing with Cushing or is he criticizing him? What do ya'll think?
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Danieal Manning to Brian Cushing: "Start leading by example before you open your mouth."
http://www.battleredblog.com/2012/6/...ple-before-you
Actually, that's not what he said, it's paraphrased, and accordingly shouldn't be in quotation marks.

I don't like to post negative comments, but I had a bad day today so here goes. Got home, logged on and read the above comment from Thursday's OTAs. My first reaction was to think that Manning needs to shut the f*ck up and stop talking out of school. Then I listened to the video and now I'm not sure what he meant. Here's the video:
http://www.houstontexans.com/tv-medi...d-9cb90293626a

What he said was "like I said about Cush, you know you want to come out here and lead with example before you want to start opening your mouth, and that's what I'm trying to do." Is he agreeing with Cushing or is he criticizing him? What do ya'll think?
I would have to say agreeing with Cush. Telling Cush he will lead by example and not running his mouth. Cushing doesn't run his mouth.
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Danieal Manning to Brian Cushing: "Start leading by example before you open your mouth."
http://www.battleredblog.com/2012/6/...ple-before-you
Actually, that's not what he said, it's paraphrased, and accordingly shouldn't be in quotation marks.

I don't like to post negative comments, but I had a bad day today so here goes. Got home, logged on and read the above comment from Thursday's OTAs. My first reaction was to think that Manning needs to shut the f*ck up and stop talking out of school. Then I listened to the video and now I'm not sure what he meant. Here's the video:
http://www.houstontexans.com/tv-medi...d-9cb90293626a

What he said was "like I said about Cush, you know you want to come out here and lead with example before you want to start opening your mouth, and that's what I'm trying to do." Is he agreeing with Cushing or is he criticizing him? What do ya'll think?
What's going on. We don't need teammates fighting amongst each other.
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Danieal Manning draws rave reviews in OTAs
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Free safety Danieal Manning drew rave reviews from Texans coaches during organized team activities (OTAs), which concluded on Thursday at the Methodist Training Center.

Defensive coordinator Wade Phillips couldn’t stop talking about Manning, who signed with the Texans from the Chicago Bears in 2011 on the same day as cornerback Johnathan Joseph, on Twitter. Every single time he tweeted about individual players who stood out in practice during OTAs, Manning was included.

“D-Man was all over the field,” Phillips wrote on May 23. “D-Man continues great effort,” he said on May 24. “D-Man had another big day,” Phillips wrote on May 29.

I asked Phillips about Manning during the first episode of my “Off the Turf with Scurf” podcast last week.

“Tremendous player,” Phillips said. “Coaching-wise, when you see a guy play like he plays and practice like he practices, you realize how good they really are and how important they really are. Really important. He plays faster than everybody else. I’m talking about everybody else that I see play safety. He plays faster than they do. He’s special.”

Manning not only plays fast but is fast (4.46 40-yard dash at the NFL Scouting Combine in 2006). He missed three games with a fractured fibula in 2011 but still finished fourth on the team with 59 tackles as the Texans improved from 32nd to third in passing defense. He had two interceptions in the regular season and one in the playoffs.

Manning also averaged 27.4 yards on kickoff returns last season. He indicated Thursday that he won’t be returning kicks in 2012, smiling as he said, “If the head man don’t want me back there, I can’t be back there.”

That’s probably because the head man, Texans head coach Gary Kubiak, knows how important Manning is to the Texans’ defense. Kubiak mentioned this week that Manning is one of several players who look like they’re taking their game to another level.

“He’s a leader,” Kubiak said. “He loves to play. He’s 100 miles an hour all the time when you see him out here. He’s kind of becoming a leader of the back end in his own way, him and J-Jo (Joseph). Just another year of being comfortable here in Houston, and I think those things start to take over a little more.”

So why does a seventh-year veteran practice as hard as Manning does?

“You want to simulate what you’re doing in the game,” Manning said. “The only way you can do that is at practice. You’re pretty much going to be losing if you’re just doing it in the game. So you want to practice good habits and get your team doing the same thing. You want to come out here and lead with example before you start opening your mouth, and that’s what I’m trying to do.”

Manning is excited for his second season in Wade Phillips’ defense. He said Phillips’ defensive calls and packages put him in position to make plays, more so than when he was with the Bears.

“I’m just working on my leadership skills, developing my craft a whole lot better in this defense, playing the style of defense that they play,” Manning said. “I wasn’t used to playing in this defense. I played in a Tampa 2-based defense (in Chicago) and now it’s different in a 3-4, and I’m more aggressive now. There’s a lot I have to learn, also.”

As he continues to learn, he’ll continue to lead by example for the Texans’ younger players.

“When you come in with a mentality of putting a staple of a defense that wants to be physical and dominate and finish, rookies have got to come in and they’ve got to catch a hold of that chain,” Manning said. “That’s the staple we’re trying to set here as a defense.”
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Danieal Manning to Brian Cushing: "Start leading by example before you open your mouth."
http://www.battleredblog.com/2012/6/...ple-before-you
Actually, that's not what he said, it's paraphrased, and accordingly shouldn't be in quotation marks.

I don't like to post negative comments, but I had a bad day today so here goes. Got home, logged on and read the above comment from Thursday's OTAs. My first reaction was to think that Manning needs to shut the f*ck up and stop talking out of school. Then I listened to the video and now I'm not sure what he meant. Here's the video:
http://www.houstontexans.com/tv-medi...d-9cb90293626a

What he said was "like I said about Cush, you know you want to come out here and lead with example before you want to start opening your mouth, and that's what I'm trying to do." Is he agreeing with Cushing or is he criticizing him? What do ya'll think?
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I would have to say agreeing with Cush. Telling Cush he will lead by example and not running his mouth. Cushing doesn't run his mouth.
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After I listened to both guys I think Manning was re-emphasing what Cushing had said earlier - that the vets should lead by example. Manning said that that's what he was trying to do in going full speed during practice, trying to set an example.

Didn't sound to me like he was bashing (or whatever) Cushing at all. Sounded like Manning was backing up what Cushing had said.
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After I listened to both guys I think Manning was re-emphasing what Cushing had said earlier - that the vets should lead by example. Manning said that that's what he was trying to do in going full speed during practice, trying to set an example.

Didn't sound to me like he was bashing (or whatever) Cushing at all. Sounded like Manning was backing up what Cushing had said.
I eventually came to the same conclusion. Totally irresponsible article and another good reason to avoid BRB.
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I didn't see it posted. Here's ESPN's Paul Kuharsky's wrap up from his visit to Texans OTAs.

Paul Kuharsky's wrap up

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Some wrapup thoughts from my visit to the Texans during their most recent three days of OTAs:

The confidence level of the defense is at an all-time high, and understandably so. These guys are young and hungry and well coached. I don’t believe any of them will be content to rest on their laurels from last year, and they’d hate to be seen as a one-year wonder. That doesn’t guarantee anything beyond top-flight effort, of course.

While Rashad Butler and Antoine Caldwell are at the front of the line to replace departed right tackle Eric Winston and right guard Mike Brisiel, don’t lock them in. I don’t think we’ll see two guys with no starting experience in the lineup, but I won’t be surprised if tackle Derek Newton or rookie guard Brandon Brooks fight his way into the lineup.

I wrap all talk of emerging receivers at this time of the year in a huge, cautionary flag. No position is in better position to look good in OTA and minicamp settings that wide receiver. In that context, Lestar Jean and Keshawn Martin are generating more buzz for the Texans right now than DeVier Posey is.

Nickelback Brice McCain is an underrated player who is coming on and looked to be the crispest of all the defensive backs in some settings. He’s got a huge up arrow on him. Also among defensive backs, undrafted rookie safety Eddie Pleasant from Oregon looks like a guy to keep an eye on.

We’ll hit on this more later, but the Texans should bail on the idea of a fullback. James Casey is really an H-back type. Use him that way. Derrell Smith’s been moved from linebacker to fullback and is worth rooting for. But this team has far too much proven offensive talent to put someone like Smith on the field for anything beyond a short-yardage situation. And that’s too small a role to carve out on a Sunday 46-man roster.

I see no reason to doubt that Matt Schaub and Andre Johnson will be ready to go for training camp as they come off of foot and knee injuries, respectively.

The versatile Connor Barwin recently wrote a concert review for the Houston Press. Check it out here.
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After I listened to both guys I think Manning was re-emphasing what Cushing had said earlier - that the vets should lead by example. Manning said that that's what he was trying to do in going full speed during practice, trying to set an example.

Didn't sound to me like he was bashing (or whatever) Cushing at all. Sounded like Manning was backing up what Cushing had said.
That's exactly what Manning was doing.
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- A scary moment was reported when tightend Owen Daniels and cornerback Brice McCain collided with each other during pass drills. Both finished practice without any issues.

Kubiak (on if he held his breath on the collision) “Yeah, I sure did. We busted a route, made a mistake on a route and unfortunately, that’s football. Golly, just trying to teach but we’re lucky right there.”
I watched that happen. It's sort of like when you are playing flag football and two guys just don't see each other and run smack into each other. Don't know what parts hit each other, I was about a 1/3 of a football field away, but it was scary. Wasn't sure it was at first who it happened to.

They were lying on the ground for a bit while folks assessed them but both got up watched practice for a bit, and then played again.
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Now, Steel, we've talked about your KJ, bashing...come on now. I can't wait til 1 of 2 things happens. Either KJ becomes the corner we need this year, and you will owe me some rep, or KJ will be awful, and I will owe you rep.

Deal?
Deal

Thanks for the rep, in advance. LOL
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Old 06-09-2012   #258
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If you had told me McCain would be getting such positive reviews two years ago, I would of said GTFO.

Have to eat some crow on that one perhaps.
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If you had told me McCain would be getting such positive reviews two years ago, I would of said GTFO.

Have to eat some crow on that one perhaps.
I really can't see McCain being anything more than what he is now unless he undergoes a big metamorphosis.

He's small and not all that strong or physical. But he is very quick and fast with excellent feet.

Basically, I'm not surprised he played well in the slot at all. I expected that.

If he becomes more than that I'll be in your shoes.
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If you had told me McCain would be getting such positive reviews two years ago, I would of said GTFO.

Have to eat some crow on that one perhaps.
If he has another year of improvement in store there may be a lot of people lining up for it.....me too.....not ready to take a bite yet though!

As far as Manning not returning kicks that reeeeally opens a spot up for Holliday doesn't it? Manning could still get a call when the team needed a kickstart.

AJ, KW, Posey, Martin, Jean, HOLLIDAY haha it's coming and you know it.
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