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Old 05-16-2012   #21
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And regression doesn't necessarly mean the D will be bad. They could "regress" to 7th or so.
Good point. I'll take a 7th ranked defense any day.
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Thats a good thread debate in itself... Replacing right side of O-line vs having a healthy Schaub (plenty of threads on him), Foster, and AJ on the field at the same time for more than like a half a game next year. Which is more important and will the O see the field less as a result?
The passing game can be more efficient (with a healthy schaub) and still not use as much clock. I have reservations about the new side of the line until i see them in action. Assuming we will have the same running game is a tall order. Ultimately it has an impact on the defense.
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The passing game can be more efficient (with a healthy schaub) and still not use as much clock. I have reservations about the new side of the line until i see them in action. Assuming we will have the same running game is a tall order. Ultimately it has an impact on the defense.
I don't get the skepticism about O-line. Caldwell had two high ankle sprains Foster had a good game nearly every time he started and he started 2010. Butler did well at LT which is much harder than RT. Not worried.
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In Wade We Trust enough said.

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I hear that there is empirical data that Wade's defenses do regress in his second year as coordinator (and I have no site to cite that), but irrespective of that, I remember comments from two people, one may have been Wade himself and the other JJ where they said that because of the lock-out and no OTA's that Wade only installed about 75% of his defense.

If this is the case, than the defense won't regress at all.

That said, if the 75% thingy is true, this defense could be even better.

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I don't get the skepticism about O-line. Caldwell had two high ankle sprains Foster had a good game nearly every time he started and he started 2010. Butler did well at LT which is much harder than RT. Not worried.
I want you to be right but im a glass half empty person. I'll believe it if I see it.
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I hear that there is empirical data that Wade's defenses do regress in his second year as coordinator (and I have no site to cite that)...
The Battle Red Blog's counter argument to that statement.
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Butler did well at LT which is much harder than RT. Not worried.
PFF disagrees.
So, with Winston gone and, by all accounts, a contract re-working not in the cards, what does that mean for a Texans line already fighting to keep hold of its starting center and right guard? Do they think that Derek Newton (13 career snaps at tackle and seven at tight end) or Rashad Butler (who is coming off injured reserve and was terrible filling in at left tackle in 2010 with a -11.4 grade) could step in?
http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...ts-the-market/

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Anything is possible and nothing is guaranteed.
Wow what great cliches that say absolutely nothing. I am very impressed. Why don't you write down some of the many others and then post them? You know like on an given Sunday or water is wet but blood is thicker.
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With a full camp and a year in Wade's system under their belts, the defense will only improve.

Look for a #1 ranked defense this year.
Of course they are going to regress. They have to face Brady, Rodgers ,Stafford, Cutler, Manning etc...

They are probably looking forward to the toast that is KJ. The defense can be better next yr and have worse stats.
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I say yes but that doesn't mean we aren't going to be good on that side of the ball. I don't think we'll be the #2 overall D at the end of the year though. Doubt we fall out of the top 10.
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Of course they are going to regress. They have to face Brady, Rodgers ,Stafford, Cutler, Manning etc...

They are probably looking forward to the toast that is KJ. The defense can be better next yr and have worse stats.
Dude, the constant slams on KJ are getting old. Certainly, there's someone else in your poor miserable life you can pick on to make yourself feel better about the quality, or lack thereof, that you put forth at your job.

KJ clearly improved last year, and I don't see any reason he won't get even better this year, not all world shut down or ball hawking, but a very servicable CB.

The way some of you jump on the hate band wagon around here is ridiculous. You hear someone say something, and you run with it. Like with Rackers, for example, without even looking at stats, a couple people on here had everyone who's too lazy to look it up believing that Rackers was horrible, when that's not true. There's google and youtube....No one has any excuse to make stupid comments....just none.

Watch some game tape on KJ towards the end of last year and watch some tape on him from 2010. I'm telling you, the D will be solid this year, in fact, I believe they just got stronger!
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I do worry about JoJo's brittleness when he was in Cincy. Other than that it will probably be only a small step back.
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With a full camp and a year in Wade's system under their belts, the defense will only improve.

Look for a #1 ranked defense this year.
Pretty much my thoughts. I don't see how this defense gets worse. Way to many guys on the pass rush for that to happen.
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I do worry about JoJo's brittleness when he was in Cincy. Other than that it will probably be only a small step back.
If JoJo goes down, we're screwed.
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They have to face Brady, Rodgers ,Stafford, Cutler, Manning etc...
How far can those guys throw it off their backs?
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How far can those guys throw it off their backs?
Probably further than you'd think.

But their accuracy suffers.

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Probably further than you'd think.

But their accuracy suffers.

Seems like it would be hard to get any distance with the Earth impeding your ability to **** your arm to throw...
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Dude, the constant slams on KJ are getting old. Certainly, there's someone else in your poor miserable life you can pick on to make yourself feel better about the quality, or lack thereof, that you put forth at your job.

KJ clearly improved last year, and I don't see any reason he won't get even better this year, not all world shut down or ball hawking, but a very servicable CB.

The way some of you jump on the hate band wagon around here is ridiculous. You hear someone say something, and you run with it. Like with Rackers, for example, without even looking at stats, a couple people on here had everyone who's too lazy to look it up believing that Rackers was horrible, when that's not true. There's google and youtube....No one has any excuse to make stupid comments....just none.

Watch some game tape on KJ towards the end of last year and watch some tape on him from 2010. I'm telling you, the D will be solid this year, in fact, I believe they just got stronger!
Attack the post not the poster, KJ's better but still not good enough vs the quality of QB's the Texans will be facing this yr. If KJ was as good as you say Allen wouldn't have gotten meaningful PT at KJ's spot.

BTW, I've never posted anything bad about Rackers, or were you to lazy to look it up?

See this is an example of how to attack the post but not the poster. No need to get personel. Life happens to be quite good right now, sorry to disappoint you.
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