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Old 05-18-2005   #161
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I see no reason to cut him. Unless McNair is going on vacation and needs a little "Mad Money." As far as Joppru coming back next season and making an impact? I'm sorry but I don't see it. Depending on how severe the tear is it usually takes a year to recover. Then they say it take another season before you are back to where you were before the tear. I see the Texans going after another TE in next years draft and Joppru never setting foot on the field, in a Texans uniform.

I also see the Texans signing of M.Rivers as a sign that they never expected much out of Joppru this season. If They expected something big from him they would have went after an impact TE (i.e. Franks, or Cam) instead of a backup.
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Old 05-18-2005   #162
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Texans | Look to Sign M. Rivers - from www.KFFL.com
Tue, 17 May 2005 20:52:26 -0700

ESPN.com's John Clayton reports the Houston Texans are apparently going to sign free agent TE Marcellus Rivers (Giants). He visited with the Texans Tuesday, May 17 and the team kept him in town overnight. Rivers was flown in after the Texans found out TE Bennie Joppru was lost for the season with a torn ACL.
Hmm, well - he was the youngest and tied for least NFL years out the "hot list" grouping, not quite the best avg yards - not sure what weight that carries in comparison.
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1. Cam Cleeland - StL - 6'5", 270 lbs, 29 yo
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2. Marcellus Rivers - NYG - 6'4", 250 lbs, 26 yo
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3. Zeron Flemister - NE - 6'4", 250 lbs, 28 yo
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Say you owned a large corporation that made millions. You invested heavily in an employee coming in and contributing to your company. Would you keep that person on the payroll for 3 years? With nothing to show for it? So why should the Texans??

I always love it when people say hey 300 thousand isn't all that much money...that's a fine opinion when it's somebody else's money you're talking about but how long does this team wait on this guy?
You refer to the players as people. Not to say that they are not but in this business they are widgets, commodity, or inventory.
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Glass Half Full

1) Never seen what he can do professionally so how is he the difference that keeps us from the playoffs?

2) Will be ever indebted to Texans and should sign for league minimum considering he's already collected bigtime and yet to play.

3) Won't ever take playing in the NFL for granted if he ever plays and will probably never slack off which could be the reason he got hurt (too much stress on body).

4) Management and fans have absolutely no expectation for him to ever contribute again so if he does it's a bonus.

5) Forces other guys to step up.
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Torn ACL. That sucks. I really feel bad for the poor guy.
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ya but if ur injured 3 years in a row, I say keep him but lower the money he will get out of his contract,so they can save some cap room and make a good buy on someone, that is needed for them to get better. Im not sure what position they need someone from but u all know what i mean, well im out bye.
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is out for the season again or will he back back half way through the season?
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is out for the season again or will he back back half way through the season?
Out for the season.
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Be interesting to know if any other team has carried an injured player on their IR for 3 straight years.
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Sounds like IR for now. They might reevaluate after surgury.
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the real problem i have and i would think most of you have is not so much the fact that joppru has gotten hurt, but the fact that he's been getting hurt in practice and preseason. this guy has never played snap in the nfl and he gets hurt. just makes me wonder what will happen when he actually does play a game. i mean, is he gonna hold up when he gets popped across the middle or when dwight freeney rushes him and spins off of him. the good thing with him getting injured now, is that we have time to pick a free agent or make some kind of trade to get another TE. this is alot better than him getting injured the first game and all the quality FA's are taken.
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Maybe we could put Moses on the trading block , if he aint gone already, with something else for that TE we want.
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Anybody know where I can get a lemon-yellow Joppru jersey?

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Did Joppru show a history of injuries before we drafted him? This pick can now officially be classified under BUST for now. 3 straight seasons he has been hurt for the year, and we now know to expect injuries from him. Makes me question if he will be as physically strong, What if we put him in a game? Fumbles then out for career? odd case.
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No he did not.
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Joppru suffers torn ACL
By Carter Toole
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The news is official and it isn't good: Bennie Joppru's third NFL season will be his third one on the injured reserve list.

Head coach Dom Capers confirmed Wednesday that the Texans' tight end has a torn anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee.

"Right now we'll probably wait 10 days or so before they do surgery," Capers said. "I think the rehab is normally six to nine months."

Joppru suffered the injury Monday when he made a cut on a pass route during a non-contact drill.

"It's extremely frustrating," Capers said. "I feel bad for Bennie. He's worked really hard but he's had terrible luck since he's been here. It'll be the third year in a row that he's had an injury and won't be able to participate. When you're an athlete and you're a competitor, that's awful tough."
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Be interesting to know if any other team has carried an injured player on their IR for 3 straight years.
I'm thinking that the Broncos may have IRed Terrell Davis for 3 years. Giving Davis an injury settlement sooner may have lead to an acceleration on his remaing signing bonus. When you see something like that, it's usually cap related.
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I just want to say I am sorry to hear about this. I hope he recovers soon.
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Maybe we could put Moses on the trading block , if he aint gone already, with something else for that TE we want.
Think we can sign Bubba Franks?
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I would rather Have Marcellus Rivers, Shows good hands and has a nose for getting open in the end zone. All TE are about the same Cam has 20 pounds on all of them. But I think Rivers would be cheaper.

I think imma find a 4 leaf clover and mail it to Bennie with instructions to keep it on you at all times on the football field. I mean this guy has like 0 luck... Did he break a mirror or a black cat cross his path on draft day? Maybe Next year he will be struck by lightening as he is just about to catch his first NFL pass.

I wonder what this does to you mentally, having to worry about re-aggravating these injuries.

As for the draft when we picked Joppru, I remember everyone on ESPN saying what a great pick and that he was the best tight end after shockey in the draft. Just has never worked out.
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