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Old 05-16-2005   #21
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I know Bubba Franks is in the transition phase, but isn't Green Bay in some kind of salary cap problem? Javon Walker is holding out because he wants a new deal, but didn't Green Bay had to release a good core of veteran players to get under the cap? If we make an offer for Franks, Green Bay probably wouldn't match it, and we wouldn't have to give up any picks because he is not a restricted free agent.
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Right, but are their really 10 teams that have more issues and uncertainty at
TE than us ? I doubt it.
I dunno...this is the thing that bothers about some of the decisions that Cass
makes - I think over the long term PB is a wise move to replace Glenn, but Glenn probably had another year or two of mileage left. Instead of picking up
PB (or someone like him right now), keep Glenn and use that 2 and 3 this year to get a TE and a top tier center/guard out of the Draft instead of taking only one OL draft pick including TE and that is just a second day pick
at that.

Good point...What TE would you have picked up? What Guard / Center?
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Old 05-16-2005   #23
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Get use to the "unfortunate events" because they could not have been "forseen". It's going to be a looooooonnnnnggggg season.
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Good point...What TE would you have picked up? What Guard / Center?
Somebody like Bass or another elite center/guard in the 2nd round. A guy like Bass is just not a long term replacement for McKinney or Weigert, he is atleast a near term upgrade for McKinney. The 5 th rounder we got is a backup.As far as TEs, I think that 2 or 3 were taking in the 3rd round. I mean this whole thing about Carr's effectiveness and well, health, is predicated on solidifying the TE position as well as the interior of the OL. And as Carr goes, hey, so goes the entire offense.
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in the 6th round when we picked S Ceandris Brown, we could have easily selected TE Joel Dreessen who was still on the board at that time.

6'4", 260, 4.69 in the 40.


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Strengths: Has adequate size and above average speed. Is a tough, competitive and experienced player. Is instinctive. Knows how to get off the LOS as a receiver and will do a good job of finding soft spots in zone coverage. He has excellent hands. Rarely drops a pass he should catch, shows the ability to catch over his head, and plucks the ball well on the run. Is a tough runner after the catch. Gets upfield quickly, has a little bit of burst, and will lower his shoulder and run over some DB's. Is a solid blocker in space. Has good upper body strength and is a tough fist-fighter type that will consistently get in position and work to finish. Also a consistent long-snapper.

Weaknesses: Has some durability concerns after abdominal injury in 2003. Has adequate but not great size. Is a better blocker in space than he is in-line. Lacks ideal lower body strength. Has some trouble matching up against bigger DE's. Doesn't get consistent enough push in the running game and has some trouble sustaining his blocks at times. Has adequate-to-good athletic ability but is not great in either area. Has the speed to stretch the middle of the field but lacks ideal COD skills and run-after-catch elusiveness.

Overall: Dreessen has been a starter since his redshirt freshman season in 2001. As a junior in 2003, he had 29 receptions for 323 yards and three touchdowns despite missing four games because of a severe lower abdominal strain. He returned healthy as a fulltime starter in 2004 and finished his senior season with 43 receptions for 427 yards and three TD's. Dreessen is very much an underrated prospect. He does lack elite size and elite athletic ability but he is at least adequate in both areas. He needs to improve his lower body strength and improve his in-line blocking skills but he has the size and upper body strength to match up in space as a blocker in the NFL. He also is a solid route runner with above average speed and outstanding hands. Dreessen has the potential to develop into a fulltime starter in the NFL and he has the character and work ethic to get the most out of his abilities. His potential to long-snap at the next level will also help him on draft day. There's a good chance that Dreessen will slip to the third round of the upcoming draft. If that's the case, we think he'll wind up becoming a "steal" at that point.


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i mean this guy was still on the board in the 6th round. i dont know why he slipped so far but i'd rather have him cheap than some saftey who might now see the field.
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Sounds to me we almost have to make a push for Franks. We will probably have to overpay, but if Joppru is out, we are in serious trouble at TE. Franks seems like the only viable option at the moment.
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...As far as TEs, I think that 2 or 3 were taking in the 3rd round...
There were 2 TEs selected in the 3rd round. The other Alex Smith, out of Stanford, taken 2 picks ahead of the Texans by Tampa at #71. And Kevin Everett out of Miami (FL), taken by the Bills at #86. Everett injured his knee in the post draft rookie camp & is lost for the season.
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If this is a serious injury....will Charlie finally have to use the "B" word for Bennie Jobdu?

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Why don't we wait for the June 1 cuts..............maybe we'll get lucky ?

And this wouldn't have been such a big deal if we'd signed an all-around tight-end instead of Mark "over the hill" Bruener. What was Casserly thinking ?

He had no way of seeing how injury prone Joppru would be, but, he did know that Bruener couldn't catch..........so what was he thinking ? Why didn't we get a TE that could block and CATCH when we had the chance ?


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we shouldnt have to hope to "get lucky" in order to fix our offense. and i happen to think a good TE would fix a great deal of our problems.

mark bruener wasnt brought in to catch passes, he was brought in to block since our blocking TE the previous season (seth wand) was moving to LT. did you watch preseason when he caught that pass and had to have 5 people to tackle him. or the jets game where he opened that HUGE hole for DD - even though it got called back. he came in for a specific job and i think he did just fine. dont bust his you know what because he didnt make us a top 10 offense.

look at the bright side - at least he knows the whole playbook

joppru needs to get better and get on the field
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Just said on the ESPN790 show that it was a right knee. No word on severity. Hold your breath.
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This sucks. Everyone pray.



But more importantly, is Buchanan trying to break Andre Johnson's back?
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Just said on the ESPN790 show that it was a right knee. No word on severity. Hold your breath.
maybe a knee sprain, or something... as long as nothing is torn im happy, as long as when the season comes around he can compete for some time, and hopefully bust into the starting position
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it looks like AJ is trying to do the worm.
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Well Capers did say for the past two months he was down here making the same cuts and nothing's happened. Maybe it is something that can take a couple of days or weeks to heal. If it can happen now, and be good the rest of the year then we're okay.
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Haha AJ doing the worm!

Joppru will be fine guys, don't be so negative. He probably just pulled something and they are being extra cautious.
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I think it is time to say "Thank you for your services" and cut our losses. This guy has been injured every year. It doesn't matter how good of a football player he CAN be when he can't even make it to the preseason!

This is very frustrating!
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Well Capers did say for the past two months he was down here making the same cuts and nothing's happened. Maybe it is something that can take a couple of days or weeks to heal. If it can happen now, and be good the rest of the year then we're okay.
Are we really "okay"? If this guy ever makes it on a practice field let alone a game we still don't know what to expect from him.
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you know no one has mentioned this so i will...this thought entered my head last year at this time when bennie got hurt but i didn't say anything but now three years in a row i will...bennie's injuries are related to that of steriod use...weakened tendons, etc...has anyone else thought of the possibility that joppru might be using roids...the nfl testing policy is hard to surpass but that's when you are on the active roster...bennie never has been...there really isn't a policy in place for non-active players...and why should there be...i think given his injuries maybe it's time to start questioning him about this...he could be using them to try and get back to level with the rest of the competition...i know they said it's his knee...maybe it's just light sprain and no big deal...but if it's his acl or mcl or whatever...we probabaly need to seriously look for another TE
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I don't think we should have drafted a TE not saying we don't need one but i wasn't crazy about any of them coming out and i think our more pressing need was OL.

As far as bennie goes I think this is just one of those cases where an athletes body wont cooperate and it never will. We just can't count on him.
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