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Old 05-18-2005   #181
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I would rather Have Marcellus Rivers, Shows good hands and has a nose for getting open in the end zone. All TE are about the same Cam has 20 pounds on all of them. But I think Rivers would be cheaper.

I think imma find a 4 leaf clover and mail it to Bennie with instructions to keep it on you at all times on the football field. I mean this guy has like 0 luck... Did he break a mirror or a black cat cross his path on draft day? Maybe Next year he will be struck by lightening as he is just about to catch his first NFL pass.

I wonder what this does to you mentally, having to worry about re-aggravating these injuries.

As for the draft when we picked Joppru, I remember everyone on ESPN saying what a great pick and that he was the best tight end after shockey in the draft. Just has never worked out.
Remember, Ernie Banks always thought next year was going to be the CUBS year. Well, may be BJ's will be next year. I think that everyone who watched him, including the Texans, know what his potential is. Sometimes the good Lord simply says, NO. What can you say and do except try again. The older you get the harder it is to heal. One thing you will be able to say, however, if he ever makes the squad he will be very mature and dedicated and it won't be a fluke. Given BJ's attitude he might even be better than Shocky if he ever gets on the field. Sounded like DOM still wants him and wants to assist him through these difficult times. I commend DOM and the Texans for that.
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Old 05-19-2005   #182
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I heard on the radio in Austin this morning that Joppru was released but have not been able to find any other news sources to corroborate this. Has anyone else heard this?
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Oh, I wouldn't listen to those fools, especially if you are talking about the guys from 1200. They like spend two seconds on the Texans much less know anything about them.
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I haven't heard anything this morning on 1300 either but man, you are so right about the 'sports twins' they stink...they are so biased towards dallas I don't listen to them anymore. I emailed their program director and he actually emailed me back saying he would have a 'talk' with his dj's. This is the Texans affiliate too for Cen Tex.
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Actually, I heard it on 1300. They said that both Moses and Joppru were released. I guess it's not true because I've not seen anything to the contrary.
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moses WAS released
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moses was released to make room for the new TE, joppru has not been released as of now
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Little more sucurity for Billy Miller, The tight end with the most touchdown catches in the tight end corps for the texans.

You're getting 522 yards and one touch down from the TE corp. Color me unimpressed. Isn't
the TE position one of the major cogs for a WCO ? I'm happy you're happy for Millers sucurity, but Jezz 522 & one fricken TD ? Get a rope ! And Billy says to tell mom to send more cookies Dad.

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I would rather Have Marcellus Rivers, Shows good hands and has a nose for getting open in the end zone. All TE are about the same Cam has 20 pounds on all of them. But I think Rivers would be cheaper.

I think imma find a 4 leaf clover and mail it to Bennie with instructions to keep it on you at all times on the football field. I mean this guy has like 0 luck... Did he break a mirror or a black cat cross his path on draft day? Maybe Next year he will be struck by lightening as he is just about to catch his first NFL pass.

I wonder what this does to you mentally, having to worry about re-aggravating these injuries.

As for the draft when we picked Joppru, I remember everyone on ESPN saying what a great pick and that he was the best tight end after shockey in the draft. Just has never worked out.
Yep there was nothing wrong with Joppru when he came out. I know at the time I loved the pick. This frachise has had the worst luck with their #2 picks.As Bo Pilgram would say, Mindboggleing.The draft is a (an illeagle dice game] shoot. You never know. If it's my team, I start looking for good young TE's burried on someones roster and buy them for '06. Liked the Rivers move. But it's a long ways from Gonzo to Rivers. Carr deserves a top filght TE. I think it's injury settlement time. JMHO.

Happy trails to you until we meet again.
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this is alot better than him getting injured the first game and all the quality FA's are taken.
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You mean like Rivers?
FWIW, it was rumored that Cleveland was about to make a run at Rivers, but we beat them to the punch, so I guess hypothetically, if Joppru's injury were to have happened later, we would have to settle for someone along the lines of Rickey Dudley...
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FWIW, it was rumored that Cleveland was about to make a run at Rivers, but we beat them to the punch, so I guess hypothetically, if Joppru's injury were to have happened later, we would have to settle for someone along the lines of Rickey Dudley...
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A torn ACL isn't a career ending injury, most offensive linmen don't even have them repaired if they are torn. Infact a great QB named Troy Aikman had both of his torn, and never repaired, if you notice in pictures of him playing, he has braces on both knees. And for those of you who think I'm full of it, I tore mine my junior year in highschool, NEVER had it repaired, and started 4 years of college football as an offensive guard, and have NEVER had any problems with it. And for those of you who think it will effect your speed, I ran consistant 4.9 and 5.0 fourty yard dashes at 300lbs. But that was also a non "skills" position, and if I had played a position such as TE or RB, it would've been sugested for me to have it repaired. The only physical atribute I really didn't dramatically improve upon was my vertical jump, I lost 4 inches and never gained that back. The vertical jump is a totaly over rated stat for a lineman, it means absolutely poo.

My point is, yeah Bennie has been injured for 3 strait years now, he's had horrible luck, and so for his career has been a bust. But he hasn't had anything that would be considered career ending, and weather it's with the Texans or not, he will continue to get looks as long as he keeps working. Sooner or later he'll get his shot, weather or not he'll be any good is yet to be seen, but things are bound to work out to wear he'll play in a football practice with pads, sooner or later.

Man I really feel for this guy, 3 seperate injurys, 3 strait years, with the things he's thinking about, and are bound to be running through his mind at this time. I hope he's religious.
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joppru will be ready next year when we are superbowl contenders.

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A torn ACL isn't a career ending injury, most offensive linmen don't even have them repaired if they are torn. Infact a great QB named Troy Aikman had both of his torn, and never repaired, if you notice in pictures of him playing, he has braces on both knees. And for those of you who think I'm full of it, I tore mine my junior year in highschool, NEVER had it repaired, and started 4 years of college football as an offensive guard, and have NEVER had any problems with it. And for those of you who think it will effect your speed, I ran consistant 4.9 and 5.0 fourty yard dashes at 300lbs. But that was also a non "skills" position, and if I had played a position such as TE or RB, it would've been sugested for me to have it repaired. The only physical atribute I really didn't dramatically improve upon was my vertical jump, I lost 4 inches and never gained that back. The vertical jump is a totaly over rated stat for a lineman, it means absolutely poo.

My point is, yeah Bennie has been injured for 3 strait years now, he's had horrible luck, and so for his career has been a bust. But he hasn't had anything that would be considered career ending, and weather it's with the Texans or not, he will continue to get looks as long as he keeps working. Sooner or later he'll get his shot, weather or not he'll be any good is yet to be seen, but things are bound to work out to wear he'll play in a football practice with pads, sooner or later.

Man I really feel for this guy, 3 seperate injurys, 3 strait years, with the things he's thinking about, and are bound to be running through his mind at this time. I hope he's religious.
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As far as I know Troy never wore knee braces...I sat thru many games at Texas Stadium and I don't remember a single instance of him wearing a knee brace.

I don't believe he ever had torn ACL's. Nope. Don't believe that's true. He had some back problems that gave him trouble, his rookie year I think he broke his hand or thumb and he had many concussions.
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He had injuries in highschool and college, not the pro's. Later in his pro career he wore knee braces, I had the same kind of knee brace that he wore. They cost $6000, they're made from titanium, coated with teflon, they're also stream lined, made from a cast molding taken of your leg. When you wear them under your pants and socks, you can't hardley tell they're their from a short distance, and also have verry little restriction to your movement. And yes and ACL tear will cause you to miss an entire season, but it isn't a necessary ligament. It's the ligament that connects your femur bone to your shin under your kneecap. The muscles and supporting ligaments are more than strong enough to hold everything together. Their are lots of doctors that just like to cut someones knee open, because they feel it would be better in the long run. My knee doctor was Dr. Terry Woods, who at the time was the same knee specialist that the Houston Oilers, and most of the top universities in Texas used, he was considered one of the top 5 knee specialists in the US at the time. The team doctor at the university I played at wanted to opperate on it, said that it would give me problems for life without the surgery. It hasn't bothered or stoped me from doing anything.

Serious, yes, carreer ending, no.
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In regrards to the whole Joppru situation, just read the following poem and all will be understood.

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream -- and not make dreams your master;
If you can think -- and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two imposters just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools;

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!"

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings -- nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run --
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He had injuries in highschool and college, not the pro's. Later in his pro career he wore knee braces, I had the same kind of knee brace that he wore. They cost $6000, they're made from titanium, coated with teflon, they're also stream lined, made from a cast molding taken of your leg. When you wear them under your pants and socks, you can't hardley tell they're their from a short distance, and also have verry little restriction to your movement. And yes and ACL tear will cause you to miss an entire season, but it isn't a necessary ligament. It's the ligament that connects your femur bone to your shin under your kneecap. The muscles and supporting ligaments are more than strong enough to hold everything together. Their are lots of doctors that just like to cut someones knee open, because they feel it would be better in the long run. My knee doctor was Dr. Terry Woods, who at the time was the same knee specialist that the Houston Oilers, and most of the top universities in Texas used, he was considered one of the top 5 knee specialists in the US at the time. The team doctor at the university I played at wanted to opperate on it, said that it would give me problems for life without the surgery. It hasn't bothered or stoped me from doing anything.

Serious, yes, carreer ending, no.

Like I said I NEVER saw Troy wear a knee brace...at the beginning of his career, during the wonder years or at the end of his career. It also seems rather odd that he was drafted #1 out of college and there was never a mention of him having these horrible ACL injuries.

I do remember him hurting his finger, I remember him hurting his back and I remember him getting concussions. I also remember him bursting his bursa sac on his elbow once. That looked very painful.

BTW..I'm sorry to hear of your injuries and hope you are completely recovered from them.

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Torn ACL's are bad news. So are detached groins. I would say Joppru is a long shot to make an impact in the NFL now.
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My heart is breaking for the kid......... his luck is so bad.

Sometimes life has a funny way of leading you in a direction you did not consider...he's young and I imagine fairly smart. He'll do well in whatever he chooses if the NFL doesn't work out for him and it doesn't appear it will. He just has too many injuries.
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