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View Poll Results: Who ends up with more sacks in 2012?
Whitney Mercilus 36 34.95%
Mario Williams 67 65.05%
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Old 04-29-2012   #1
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Who do you believe will end up with more sacks?
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Default Re: More sacks in 2012 - Whitney Mercilus or Mario Williams?

Mario simply because he will get more playing time.
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Mario simply because he will get more playing time.
Agreed. More playing time and fewer guys who will get there first.
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Default Re: More sacks in 2012 - Whitney Mercilus or Mario Williams?

On an actual NFL field or on XBox?

Mario will definitely have more playing Madden. I hear he's quite the video gamer.

As far as on the field goes...I don't see big money starting Mario's motor or protecting him from injury so I think Mercilus has a 50/50 chance of beating him in sacks.
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Default Re: More sacks in 2012 - Whitney Mercilus or Mario Williams?

Who didn't see this poll coming?
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Agreed. More playing time and fewer guys who will get there first.
I think that Phillips will pin his ears back any time he comes into the game. I say he gets double-digit sacks this year, and he will get there faster than Mario.

Mercilus.
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Default Re: More sacks in 2012 - Whitney Mercilus or Mario Williams?

I thin it is a toss up. Mario will see the field more, but Mercilus is surrounded by more talent and a better scheme. It all depends on how motivated Mario is.
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Default Re: More sacks in 2012 - Whitney Mercilus or Mario Williams?

This is just silly.
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Default Re: More sacks in 2012 - Whitney Mercilus or Mario Williams?

Apples and oranges. All I realy care about is the Texans having more W's than any other team in the league.
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Default Re: More sacks in 2012 - Whitney Mercilus or Mario Williams?

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Nevertheless Whitney in this system even if he only gets half the reps will exceed Mario Williams sack total in 2012 all for about 70 million less
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I thin it is a toss up. Mario will see the field more, but Mercilus is surrounded by more talent and a better scheme. It all depends on how motivated Mario is.
Mario - Kyle Williams - Dareus - Anderson

Pretty good talent there on the line, and they should improve quite a bit this season.

I don't think there's really a big competition between Mario and Mercilus, if you consider draft status, amount of coin paid, depth chart position (even if Mercilus is #1 he'll be in a rotation) and the nature of their role (Mercilus will be asked to be more versatile than Williams) its a bit of a false comparison even though we've essentially replaced one with the other.

I wrote it somewhere else, but if WM has a similar rookie season to the one Connor Barwin had, that'll be perfectly adequate to me, anything more will be a huge bonus.
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Default Re: More sacks in 2012 - Whitney Mercilus or Mario Williams?

I go with Merc, cause Mario will be on IR before week 10.
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Default Re: More sacks in 2012 - Whitney Mercilus or Mario Williams?

Whitney Mercilus is the anti-Mario. Harder working, happy to be here, never seems to stop going.

More proof, it's right in their initials - WM replaces MW

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Default Re: More sacks in 2012 - Whitney Mercilus or Mario Williams?

Where's the "Who cares what Mario does since he ain't a Texan" option?
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I go with Merc, cause Mario will be on IR before week 10.
^This. The odds are good that Mario won't play a full season.
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Default Re: More sacks in 2012 - Whitney Mercilus or Mario Williams?

Mario. He's the only good pass rusher there. Texans now have multiple pass rushers so the sacks/tackles will be all over the place.
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Default Re: More sacks in 2012 - Whitney Mercilus or Mario Williams?

Mario if he plays 16 games. I expect Mercilus to be great in 2 to 3 years, but i don't see him exceeding the 10 sack level as a rookie, especially with a rotation.
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Default Re: More sacks in 2012 - Whitney Mercilus or Mario Williams?

Honestly?

I think it will be close. But like Dutchrudder said, I expect Mario to miss a bunch of games and because of that, Mercilus may actually see the field more even though he's a situational player at first.

I'm wondering, though, if Mercilus will be a "situational" player. I think Wade is going to find some ways to build some packages to get all his best players on the field at the same time. Mercilus may be on the field quite a bit.

But I'm just hoping for a good 8-9 sacks from him. I don't know if that will be enough to overtake Mario.
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If Mario stays healthy he'll have more sacks. Say whatever you will about Mario, but when he's of a mind to actually play football he's the best.
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Default Re: More sacks in 2012 - Whitney Mercilus or Mario Williams?

I think the most realistic answer to this is Mario will end up with more sacks, but when you factor into account salary, then Mercilus provides the better value.

I think if Wade could keep Mario at Mercilus' contract, he'd take Mario every single time.

With that said, Mercilus for DROY!
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