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Old 05-17-2012   #161
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I think it was very clever of Jacoby Jones to find a way to convince Dwight Jones to exchange faces...sort of like Travolta and Cage in the movie Face/Off.

Dwight gets to go to Baltimore and Jacoby gets to stay here with a fresh start. Brilliant.
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I think it was very clever of Jacoby Jones to find a way to convince Dwight Jones to exchange faces...sort of like Travolta and Cage in the movie Face/Off.

Dwight gets to go to Baltimore and Jacoby gets to stay here with a fresh start. Brilliant.
Dwight screwed up the plan by taking jersey #87 instead of #12.
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Dwight screwed up the plan by taking jersey #87 instead of #12.
It's all part of the subterfuge. Instead of taking 12, he took the number that's 12 back from 99, instead.

Hopefully, this reversal of polarity will be evident in a reversal of suck as well.
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If Jones comes prepared to go 110% on the field and the classroom, were talking about a steal. If he comes in acting aloof and entitled, Jones may not make it to training camp.
Well, I guess we know which Jones showed up. Seriously, who quits the NFL? In OTAs? Unbelievable.
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There has to be more to the story. This is a guy that has been doing nothing but training for the NFL for the last 5 months. He has an agent and attended workouts, signed with a team, flew down here, made living arrangements and everything. There's no way he just had some sort of epiphany on memorial day. Thank god this chump didn't get the chance pan out, it could have turned into a Ricky Williams situation.
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There has to be more to the story. This is a guy that has been doing nothing but training for the NFL for the last 5 months. He has an agent and attended workouts, signed with a team, flew down here, made living arrangements and everything. There's no way he just had some sort of epiphany on memorial day. Thank god this chump didn't get the chance pan out, it could have turned into a Ricky Williams situation.
Yeah... the real story can't be this simple as "this is too hard, I'm going home". ...after only three days too? If our local media had any investigative chops about them, they'd do a little digging.
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Dwight Jones is still listed on the HT.com official roster. Think this might be a mistake or oversight, I checked around and found the same roster status on ESPN, FOXsports, and even NFL.com So I went to Ourlads which is noted to have the reputation for maintaining the most up to date roster listings...........and there he is......Dwight Jones WR. Then I thought maybe there could still an "update" problem. But that isn't the case. The most recent roster addition of Moran Norris was found in each roster listing.

Is there something going on in the background? An extended open door? A form of punishment? At very least.......strange.
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Dwight Jones is still listed on the HT.com official roster. Think this might be a mistake or oversight, I checked around and found the same roster status on ESPN, FOXsports, and even NFL.com So I went to Ourlads which is noted to have the reputation for maintaining the most up to date roster listings...........and there he is......Dwight Jones WR. Then I thought maybe there could still an "update" problem. But that isn't the case. The most recent roster addition of Moran Norris was found in each roster listing.

Is there something going on in the background? An extended open door? A form of punishment? At very least.......strange.


HoustonTexans.com noted that he is still on the 90 man roster even though he hasn't come back since quitting. Even though he is still on, they are at 89 men on the roster. He will probably be cut once the roster is required to be trimmed.
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Dwight Jones is still listed on the HT.com official roster... Is there something going on in the background? An extended open door? A form of punishment? At very least.......strange.
I'm thinking Rick & Gary don't want to be taken off DJ's future sexxxy casual party exclusive invitation lists, ya know?
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When Jones quit Kubiak made a statement to the effect that he was leaving the door open for Jones to come back, making it sound as if Jones was just on information overload and needed some time. Keeping him on the roster could also be punishment, maybe as long as he's on our roster he's not allowed to sign with anyone else since he was signed by us as an UDFA. Their might have been some personality issues and keeping him on the roster might prevent him from just shopping his skills around to the rest of the league.
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When Jones quit Kubiak made a statement to the effect that he was leaving the door open for Jones to come back, making it sound as if Jones was just on information overload and needed some time. Keeping him on the roster could also be punishment, maybe as long as he's on our roster he's not allowed to sign with anyone else since he was signed by us as an UDFA. Their might have been some personality issues and keeping him on the roster might prevent him from just shopping his skills around to the rest of the league.
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When Jones quit Kubiak made a statement to the effect that he was leaving the door open for Jones to come back, making it sound as if Jones was just on information overload and needed some time. Keeping him on the roster could also be punishment, maybe as long as he's on our roster he's not allowed to sign with anyone else since he was signed by us as an UDFA. Their might have been some personality issues and keeping him on the roster might prevent him from just shopping his skills around to the rest of the league.
UNC runs almost a copy-cat of the Texans system; how can DJ has a case of information-overload, especially with his former teammate Yates here to help make the transition even easier for him?
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I'm thinking it was more work ethic overload & little fish/big pond switch-a-roo. Talent alone doesn't cut it.
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UNC runs almost a copy-cat of the Texans system; how can DJ has a case of information-overload, especially with his former teammate Yates here to help make the transition even easier for him?
Exactly. In essence this kid should already know the scheme well enough to quickly master the playbook. Looks like he is just a quitter and thats a shame because he seemed to have the physical ability, just no heart I guess.
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Whatever the reason, he's blowing a perfect opportunity. AJ is out, Walter is a low bar and the rest are a bunch of young guys like himself.
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Whatever the reason, he's blowing a perfect opportunity. AJ is out, Walter is a low bar and the rest are a bunch of young guys like himself.
Maybe it is stage fright NFL style. It effects people differently.
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Maybe he just doesn't want to play anymore?

It happens. You spend a majority of your young life doing nothing but football. All year long. You don't lead a regular life and you are under strict guidelines even in the off-season. Your whole life is football.

Maybe when he got to the NFL and he realized that it was about to get even more serious he decided that he wanted to be a regular guy for a while. Do things on his own terms. Do what he wanted to, when he wanted to.

Just throwing the possiblity out there since we're all speculating...
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Maybe he just doesn't want to play anymore?

It happens. You spend a majority of your young life doing nothing but football. All year long. You don't lead a regular life and you are under strict guidelines even in the off-season. Your whole life is football.

Maybe when he got to the NFL and he realized that it was about to get even more serious he decided that he wanted to be a regular guy for a while. Do things on his own terms. Do what he wanted to, when he wanted to.

Just throwing the possiblity out there since we're all speculating...
If that's the case, then he got a head start back when he was still in college.

Maybe he's just always been a bit "flighty" and he stood no chance as the years passed by and his lifestyle became so much of a habit that it over-shadowed everything else?

From appearances, I think he was a borderline flight risk most of his college life too. A lot of talent, a lot of help from those around him, and now he had a chance to do something on his own and he couldn't get the help he had in high school and college.

In the NFL, it's different than high school in college. In HS and College, your star athletes are extremely pampered because everyone who has a say in that athlete's life knows that the athlete is what can make the team (and the school) really leap forward...if the player juuuust has a little help. Help with classes, help with grades, help with tardies, help with other things.

Flash forward to the NFL: No help except the help you EARN and go after via your own efforts. Look at Brandon Brooks. The texans could easily hire and pay for a nutritionist (on their own dime) to make sure he sheds pounds like Kubiak wants him to. Nope, they're seeing if he WANTS to do this on his own or not. He'll be encouraged, no doubt, but they're not babysitting these ex-college players. It's a whole new world for them--A life of earning 100% by means of going after it on their own.

My money, if we're betting, is that Dwight Jones saw that an NFL camp is a lot more like the real world than what he expected. 3 days was enough, which tells me he was unable to start from scratch...he likely wanted things handed to him, like he probably enjoyed in HS and college. IMO.

People bag on Terrell Owens a lot. But guys like him, and I wonder about Dwight Jones childhood too, are immediately at a disadvantage if they have never had genuinely "good" role models in their life as children. A wasted childhood affects people when they enter adulthood. It's not an excuse, it's just saying that it DOES impact how an adult filters the world around them. To me, it's the difference between laying down and taking what life gives you vs. rising up and overcoming those obstacles.

What makes some guys rise above, and what makes some guys wallow in misery and implode??? I dunno. I just think it's sad no matter what. If time could be reversed, I wonder what becomes of Terrell Owens if he had a stable childhood and was held to a standard and had genuine support around him. I guess that's the whole nature vs. nurture argument, but still...the older I get, and as I see my kids grow up, the more these things are at the forefront of my mind.

Does anyone think Dwight Jones has/had a genuinely GOOD support system around him? Family and friends who are/were always helping him to help himself...or was it sort of a broken system where people aided and abetted a dysfunctional view of the real world? I genuinely wonder.
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If that's the case, then he got a head start back when he was still in college.

Maybe he's just always been a bit "flighty" and he stood no chance as the years passed by and his lifestyle became so much of a habit that it over-shadowed everything else?

From appearances, I think he was a borderline flight risk most of his college life too. A lot of talent, a lot of help from those around him, and now he had a chance to do something on his own and he couldn't get the help he had in high school and college.

In the NFL, it's different than high school in college. In HS and College, your star athletes are extremely pampered because everyone who has a say in that athlete's life knows that the athlete is what can make the team (and the school) really leap forward...if the player juuuust has a little help. Help with classes, help with grades, help with tardies, help with other things.

Flash forward to the NFL: No help except the help you EARN and go after via your own efforts. Look at Brandon Brooks. The texans could easily hire and pay for a nutritionist (on their own dime) to make sure he sheds pounds like Kubiak wants him to. Nope, they're seeing if he WANTS to do this on his own or not. He'll be encouraged, no doubt, but they're not babysitting these ex-college players. It's a whole new world for them--A life of earning 100% by means of going after it on their own.

My money, if we're betting, is that Dwight Jones saw that an NFL camp is a lot more like the real world than what he expected. 3 days was enough, which tells me he was unable to start from scratch...he likely wanted things handed to him, like he probably enjoyed in HS and college. IMO.

People bag on Terrell Owens a lot. But guys like him, and I wonder about Dwight Jones childhood too, are immediately at a disadvantage if they have never had genuinely "good" role models in their life as children. A wasted childhood affects people when they enter adulthood. It's not an excuse, it's just saying that it DOES impact how an adult filters the world around them. To me, it's the difference between laying down and taking what life gives you vs. rising up and overcoming those obstacles.

What makes some guys rise above, and what makes some guys wallow in misery and implode??? I dunno. I just think it's sad no matter what. If time could be reversed, I wonder what becomes of Terrell Owens if he had a stable childhood and was held to a standard and had genuine support around him. I guess that's the whole nature vs. nurture argument, but still...the older I get, and as I see my kids grow up, the more these things are at the forefront of my mind.

Does anyone think Dwight Jones has/had a genuinely GOOD support system around him? Family and friends who are/were always helping him to help himself...or was it sort of a broken system where people aided and abetted a dysfunctional view of the real world? I genuinely wonder.
If bolded is true, he is now in that real world and is considering how he will buy food & shelter. Maybe that is what Gary is hoping and Jones will reconsider.
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