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Old 04-29-2012   #81
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I am saying this right now, and trust me I am not a Cougar homer...

Case Keenum will be starting for the Texans in 3 years...

They will let him sit under Schaub and learn the offense and he will take the job from TJ Yates. Everything I have seen in him has Kubiak written all over him, EXCEPT for the height. Kubiak likes tall QBs but in Kubiaks system, Keenum can be very successful.....
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That pass went about 45 yards in the air. Not sure how that proves anything.
cause he was running forward, didnt get to plant his foot and throw, he did that effortlessely !!! The boy can play, same critics were saying the same crap about Foster when he went undrafted, now look at him. And i dont mean people on here i mean the experts.
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Just proves that some scouting report you read about a guy and actually watching the same guy play the game, are two totally seperate things.

Anyone who thinks Case has arm strength issues, is inaccurate, or has a slow release, hasn't seen the guy play more than a snap or two, if that much.

Anyway, disappointed he didn't get drafted, but happy he's a Texan.
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Kubiak said he came away impressed with Keenum after a private workout earlier this month.

“If other teams had seen him work out for us, he would have been drafted,” Kubiak said. “He was a sponge when I was telling him things. He picked them up right away.”

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Kubiak said he came away impressed with Keenum after a private workout earlier this month.

“If other teams had seen him work out for us, he would have been drafted,” Kubiak said. “He was a sponge when I was telling him things. He picked them up right away.”
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...and yet Kubiak, who did work him out, didn't spend a pick on him

...guess it all worked itself out in the end though
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...and yet Kubiak, who did work him out, didn't spend a pick on him

...guess it all worked itself out in the end though
Evidently, Kubiak felt that we had more need at other positions for one of our formal draft picks. Keenum was grabbed right after the draft was completed.
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Everything I have seen in him has Kubiak written all over him...
Keenum probably reminds Kubiak of himself. Smart, good athlete, average arm. Kubiak didn't play in the wide open offense that Case ran. Other than that, very similar QBs.

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I think Case Keenum's biggest problem is the stigma of being a QB from UH and putting up huge numbers.
Texas Tech ran a similar offense for years, their QBs put up tremendous numbers, but couldn't make NFL rosters. Keenum is going to be compared to those guys, as well. What the NFL teams are missing is Case's plus athleticism. He entered UH as a running QB and became a passer under Briles and Kingsbury. Keenum routinely made plays with his feet earlier in his career, and that will show more with the bootlegs and playaction in the Texans offense.
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Arm strength comes into play more when a guy can't fit balls into tight windows in short space. Not putting as much air under the ball. Being able to zing it...
It's also about timing, which Keenum had with his UH receivers and didn't at the combine. If you don't have timing, you better have a rocket arm. Which is why a dud QB like Jordan Jefferson looked good at the combine.
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...and yet Kubiak, who did work him out, didn't spend a pick on him

...guess it all worked itself out in the end though
You have to know the draft and understand where a guy can be drafted (or signed later). Could be that Smithiak are becoming more expert in this area?
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who cares if he went undrafted, i hope and pray we become the kings of getting undrafted players who become Hall of Famers, means we save lots of money not having to pay big 1st round bucks, look smart, have plenty to choose from

You dont have to be drafted to be a good players, funny that over half the guys drafted every first round become busts, and 3/4 in the draft total become are busts.
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"system quarterback...didn't have to go against SEC defenses.."

A lot of excuses for why not to draft the guy, but his arm is there...
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If he's a system QB, it's worth noting that he played in the same system as RG3.
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IMO opinion, Keenums greatest asset is his unbelievable ability to keep a play alive with his legs. The guy is almost unsackable if he can see what side the pressure is coming from.

He would be DEVASTATING in Kubiak's roll-out schemes as he can throw with great accuracy running out of the pocket.

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First, let me join in the excitement of my fellow Coogs. I am elated that Case and the Texans managed to hook-up.

Second, I agree, Speedfreek. That elusiveness and pocket presence is what will be his greatest asset to the Texans. He should be great competition for Yates as the back-up and who knows what the future holds.
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"system quarterback...didn't have to go against SEC defenses.."
Keenum did face two SEC teams, defeating Mississippi State on the road in 2009 and nearly rallying the Coogs to a win (after being down 23-0) in Tuscaloosa as a freshman, way back in 2007.
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"system quarterback...didn't have to go against SEC defenses.."

A lot of excuses for why not to draft the guy, but his arm is there...
All those highly coveted Big 10 players selected in Texans draft

Keenum dominated ranked Big 10 school Penn State in an actual bowl game

Keenum/CUSA >> Big 10 (not necessarily, but...)

A bit of irony that Keenum beat the conference Texans coveted most. And Whitney Mercilus and Devier Posey didnt go against any SEC or Big 12 schools (last year at least)

NFL is hardcore, but I don't see Texans pissing off the fan base cutting Keenum preseason. A conservative outlook is he gets a complimentary practice squad signing for at least a few weeks. Some "Alex Brink" treatment.
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IMO opinion, Keenums greatest asset is his unbelievable ability to keep a play alive with his legs. The guy is almost unsackable if he can see what side the pressure is coming from.

He would be DEVASTATING in Kubiak's roll-out schemes as he can throw with great accuracy running out of the pocket.

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Yah, i have to agree with him keeping plays alive with his feet... His junior year playing at Baylor he did it a couple of times...led to a game winning FG as time expired... Of course it was the 2004 class 3A state championship game in Waco, and it was my guys he beat...i hate you Keenum!
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Just now seeing this.

We need more QBs, so this was a win-win for us. He's a UDFA and a local guy who ain't scared to throw the ball.

I like it. Cherry on top, as someone else said. Now we need a RB off UDFA too.
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Just saw this headline on the front page of Chron.com. Well done to the chimps who work for the Chronicle!

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I don't think Keenum has arm strength issues, but arm strength isn't as much about the long ball as it is about the short and intermediate balls.

Arm strength comes into play more when a guy can't fit balls into tight windows in short space. Not putting as much air under the ball. Being able to zing it...
^^This^^

& arm strength is what saves a QB when he can't set up perfectly to throw the ball, or get proper follow through.. which is actually a high percentage of throws for most QBs.
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