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Old 05-03-2012   #181
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I get a feeling that Keenum is going to turn into our Tony Romo.
I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
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Tony can be a turnover machine, Keenum is generally safer with the ball..

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First thing first, I believe Keenum can be very beneficial to the Texans by running the scout team.

I read a book in which a coach described how hard it was to prepare for Barry Sanders. There's noboby on the team that can come anywhere close to emulate him to prepare the defense.

With Keenum, the defense will be well prepared against situations where the opponent runs an up-tempo/no huddle offense.

Early on in the season, Keenum was moving the offense too fast for the defense to keep up with. The UH coaches decided to "slow it down" some to give the defense some rest because they were spending too much time on the field.

Keenum was always ready to go on to the next play as soon as the previous one was done with. The ref couldn't place the ball quickly enough for him.

The last few years, there wasn't any college QB that runs the no huddle/up tempo as efficiently as Keenum.

At the moment, I think this is the value that he can bring to the Texans.
By running the scout team, he will help prepare the Texans defense for those occasions better than any back-up QB that have ever been on the Texans roster.
He will help keep the defensive players sharp and on their heels, and the team will be better because of it.
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I don't know if this VIDEO was posted in this thread but nice to see actual game footage of keenum instead of just highlights. I didn't get a chance to watch it all but looks good so far.
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I'm just glad we have him. The guy has a TON of potential and as a UDFA no downside. I'm pretty sure he sticks to the team unless he just royally screws up in camp and pre-season. Which I donthink he will.
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This is a better example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTLN6...17537D7E4CDA0B

Keenum took an unranked UH team into stillwater and beat #5 OSU.

It's a better example, because in 2009 the cougar defense was a disaster and the offense had to win every game in a shootout. OSU had better talent across the board (including NFL talent on offense and defense).

By the time the 2011 Penn State game rolled around, the talent level (and defense) had increased at UH to the point where they were a legitimate top 25 team. (finished #14)

In 2007, Keenum lead a comeback (and almost won) in tuscaloosa against Alabama. Houston lost the game when they came up short in the endzone as time expired after rallying from almost 20 points down -- in front of a crowd of 93,000. He did not start, but came in after the other QB proved incapable of moving the ball.

The guy is used to playing well in big games in front of large crowds.

If he can translate that to the NFL we should be in for some fun times in the future.. If not, he at least got his shot with the hometown good-guys..

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Some people seem to be absolutely in love with Case and I hope he turns out the be a real special find for the Texans but the odds just arent in our favor that it will roll that way
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Some people seem to be absolutely in love with Case and I hope he turns out the be a real special find for the Texans but the odds just arent in our favor that it will roll that way
Home boy makes good is always a great story. I'm really looking forward to seeing him this pre-season. But as with any player, the pudding is in the proof, or the icing is on the cake, or the beer is in the fridge, or something like that. LOL
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He'll be starting by the Thanksgiving game against Detroit.

Let's hope not but I really like this kid.
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I like the kid but don't want him starting this year either.

Getting thrown into the fire too soon kills your career.
I'd rather give him time to learn under Kubiak (pro red-shirt..)

If Gary can do what he did with Plumber, then Case's potential
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I like the kid but don't want him starting this year either.

Getting thrown into the fire too soon kills your career.
I'd rather give him time to learn under Kubiak (pro red-shirt..)

If Gary can do what he did with Plumber, then Case's potential
could be pretty high..

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Im not sure "I like the kid" is the right statement, you seem extremely fond of him. I dont think anyone is talking about him starting this year.
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I get a feeling that Keenum is going to turn into our Tony Romo.
He'll go from a place holder to starting QB.
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The guy brought my college team from the doldrums to the national
spotlight.

Now I'm just hoping he can do something similar for the Texans.

It's more like "I appreciate what he did", than it is "I am fond of him".

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Im not sure "I like the kid" is the right statement, you seem extremely fond of him. I dont think anyone is talking about him starting this year.
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Im not sure "I like the kid" is the right statement, you seem extremely fond of him. I dont think anyone is talking about him starting this year.
Well, to be fair...anything can happen. Nobody here thought we'd be watching TJ Yates play a single snap in the 2011 season. Let alone in a playoff game.

I think anytime a QB comes back from blowing an ACL and he STILL is dominant the next year...that speaks volumes to me. To battle through adversity and to actually continue the same performance as before, it means he is tough as nails and always finds ways to succeed. The great QBs are not just talented, they are mentally and emotionally tough...and I think Keenum has the potential to be a good QB.

To be fair, nobody here thought all that much of Zabransky from Boise State when he was on our roster. You had a sense that he was genuinely a system QB on a team that did a lot of gimmickry types of plays, as well. It seems different with Keenum. He looks more like a traditional QB than "just a system QB" and I think the fact that he's from UH is just a coincidence.
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Well, to be fair...anything can happen. Nobody here thought we'd be watching TJ Yates play a single snap in the 2011 season. Let alone in a playoff game.

I think anytime a QB comes back from blowing an ACL and he STILL is dominant the next year...that speaks volumes to me. To battle through adversity and to actually continue the same performance as before, it means he is tough as nails and always finds ways to succeed. The great QBs are not just talented, they are mentally and emotionally tough...and I think Keenum has the potential to be a good QB.

To be fair, nobody here thought all that much of Zabransky from Boise State when he was on our roster. You had a sense that he was genuinely a system QB on a team that did a lot of gimmickry types of plays, as well. It seems different with Keenum. He looks more like a traditional QB than "just a system QB" and I think the fact that he's from UH is just a coincidence.


Yeah anything can happen, I could win powerball but its not likely. Like I said I hope it turns out to be a lottery ticket but some people here are acting like this kid is a first round pick
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Don't forget Kevin Kolb. Hate to say it, but he just hasn't lived up to expectations.
Personally, I think the jury is still out on Kolb. He had a flash, then he was put into some "iffy" situations if you ask me.

I still think he'll put together a decent NFL career.
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Yeah anything can happen, I could win powerball but its not likely. Like I said I hope it turns out to be a lottery ticket but some people here are acting like this kid is a first round pick
It's just part of the game.

Kurt Warner and Tom Brady are living proof that late-round guys, or even UDFAs, can succeed in the NFL. If teams had it to do over again, they would love to have one of those guys in the first round.

Plus, QBs drift in and out of luck all the time. Where they land, and what time they land there, has a lot to do with it. Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer, Kurt Warner, those are guys who struck gold by being in the right place at the right time.

Stars aligned in such a way that TJ Yates was a few plays away from being in the AFC Championship game last year. Anything can happen. The upside to Case Keenum is that he wasn't chosen in a top round of the draft...he has no pressure to make a team a winner, he just has to soak up the playbook and learn in a setting that I think benefits him and his skill set.

We wasted a lot of time with Matt Leinart, IMO. He used up the QB2 reps when Yates should have been in the mix...instead, Yates is running scout team (the OTHER team's playbook/system) and I actually hope Kubiak bumps Keenum up to QB2 during OTAs and camp. Learn from least year's problems.
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It's just part of the game.

Kurt Warner and Tom Brady are living proof that late-round guys, or even UDFAs, can succeed in the NFL. If teams had it to do over again, they would love to have one of those guys in the first round.

Plus, QBs drift in and out of luck all the time. Where they land, and what time they land there, has a lot to do with it. Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer, Kurt Warner, those are guys who struck gold by being in the right place at the right time.

Stars aligned in such a way that TJ Yates was a few plays away from being in the AFC Championship game last year. Anything can happen. The upside to Case Keenum is that he wasn't chosen in a top round of the draft...he has no pressure to make a team a winner, he just has to soak up the playbook and learn in a setting that I think benefits him and his skill set.

We wasted a lot of time with Matt Leinart, IMO. He used up the QB2 reps when Yates should have been in the mix...instead, Yates is running scout team (the OTHER team's playbook/system) and I actually hope Kubiak bumps Keenum up to QB2 during OTAs and camp. Learn from least year's problems.
And do what with Yates?
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And do what with Yates?
Gary is on record stating that he'll keep Matt outta harm's way during camp, that he'll be doing individual drills but not getting in harm's way. Thus TJ will essentially be #1 in camp.
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And do what with Yates?
Oh I forgot. Matt Schaub is "on track" and will be QB1.
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