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Old 05-01-2012   #281
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I've heard he was "lazy"...take it fwiw.
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Yeah...that would drop him off my list...
Too bad, jersey #12 just became available.
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I am still a little surprised that the Texans drafted Posey with 'character' concerns. I guess the taste of winning is chipping away at their apprehensions.

Just make sure we dont become a win at all costs team like a Fisher led team, or Bengals team.
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Hopefully for owners of the Jones#12, Dwight Jones will pick that for his number. Problem solved. Until August...
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I am still a little surprised that the Texans drafted Posey with 'character' concerns. I guess the taste of winning is chipping away at their apprehensions.

Just make sure we dont become a win at all costs team like a Fisher led team, or Bengals team.
He doesn't have character concerns. I wish people would stop trying to paint him that color. The NCAA is just a giant douche organization
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How does a big time weapon @ WR become a hidden gem, the NCAA.

This is one of my favorite videos of DeVier. Big body, physical, like his body lean in & out of breaks along with excellent use of hands this is how you create separation throughout route tree. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4cabr5OT7o
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He doesn't have character concerns. I wish people would stop trying to paint him that color. The NCAA is just a giant douche organization
Yes he does. He took excess money for a job, received improper benefits and sold memorabilia, all NCAA violation.

It doesnt matter if you agree with it or not. All are violations. I could steal food to feed my starving family. Doesnt mean I didnt do anything wrong.
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NCAA violations, for a documented union job, and selling his own stuff, big friggen deal. That's like saying players who get fined for wearing the wrong colored socks or Brian Urlacher for sporting Vitamin Water gear have character issues.
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NCAA violations, for a documented union job, and selling his own stuff, big friggen deal. That's like saying players who get fined for wearing the wrong colored socks or Brian Urlacher for sporting Vitamin Water gear have character issues.
Rationalize it however you want. Doesnt change the facts that Posey thought he could break the rules and get away with it.
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Yes he does. He took excess money for a job, received improper benefits and sold memorabilia, all NCAA violation.

It doesnt matter if you agree with it or not. All are violations. I could steal food to feed my starving family. Doesnt mean I didnt do anything wrong.
But you would be stealing. That is against the law.

He sold his own possessions. He worked a Union job - he had to get paid Union wages. Neither is illegal. Only against the antiquated NCAA rules.

Wrong - yes. Character issue - no way.
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But you would be stealing. That is against the law.

He sold his own possessions. He worked a Union job - he had to get paid Union wages. Neither is illegal. Only against the antiquated NCAA rules.

Wrong - yes. Character issue - no way.
Thank you.

I'm not "rationalizing" anything. I do not see any "Character Issues" when it comes to this kid, and I don't even have an opinion for this kid yet. I just find it annoying that he's being labeled as a character concern for stupid stuff. I'm more concerned with his lack of playtime last season but he's reportedly kept in football shape during his off time, so again, I'm neutral on this kid.

Hell, the receiver who "does" have character concerns is Dwight Jones, and I still want to see what he can do for this team come offseason.
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I guess we will see it differently. It just seems that some are willing to overlook his mistakes due to the logo on his helmet.

Maybe getting him away from OSU and Columbus will straighten him out. No offense Yankee but OSU harbor's this type of behavior. From Clarette to Pryor. Tressel has really jacked up the program with his win at all costs scheme.
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It just seems that some are willing to overlook his mistakes due to the logo on his helmet.
No one is overlooking Posey's mistakes, most of us just honestly do not give a damn... Big difference...

If he were busted a few times in college for smokin' some reefer, then i'd care a little more...not because i'm Mr. Anti-Pot, hell i want it to be legalized and i don't even smoke it (another topic for another board), but continuing to smoke the reef while in the NFL can get you suspended... That effects the team...

He will be making quite a bit of money legally, and the NFL's policy encourages it...
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I guess we will see it differently. It just seems that some are willing to overlook his mistakes due to the logo on his helmet.

Maybe getting him away from OSU and Columbus will straighten him out. No offense Yankee but OSU harbor's this type of behavior. From Clarette to Pryor. Tressel has really jacked up the program with his win at all costs scheme.
ALL schools, including Ohio State and Penn State, play to win at all costs. That's a part of the twisted world of college athletics. If you think differently about Penn State or any other school, you're probably wrong. It always cracks me up when one school gets caught, the fans of their rivals start pointing fingers, all the while they're school is doing the same thing or worse.
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I guess we will see it differently. It just seems that some are willing to overlook his mistakes due to the logo on his helmet.

Maybe getting him away from OSU and Columbus will straighten him out. No offense Yankee but OSU harbor's this type of behavior. From Clarette to Pryor. Tressel has really jacked up the program with his win at all costs scheme.
This has nothing to do with the logo on his helmet.

There's a whole different class of "wrong" between being a thug and a poison in the locker room vs. doing things you should be able to do. When the rules themselves are wrong, we should all be outlaws.

Now, I understand why the NCAA has these rules in place because there are ways that players could get paid by people breaking the rules. But the NCAA needs to do a better job of figuring out if someone's trying to make a lot of money by working the system or whether they're just trying to make ends meet.

IIRC, Arian was pissed off about this whole thing and called the NCAA out on it long before Posey was drafted.

So, no. I don't think this kid has character concerns.
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Yes he does. He took excess money for a job, received improper benefits and sold memorabilia, all NCAA violation.

It doesnt matter if you agree with it or not. All are violations. I could steal food to feed my starving family. Doesnt mean I didnt do anything wrong.
Does getting caught make the character concerns bigger for him than those who didn't get caught. How many NFL players have accepted cash "donations" from overzealous boosters? I'm not going to guess at a percentage, but I think it's safe to assume there's a fair number of those players in the NFL that we aren't aware of. Heck, Nevin Shapiro alleges that Andre Johnson accepted free drinks and VIP room access while at the U. Any character issues that may have existed had this been known at the time Andre was drafted would appear to be unwarranted at this point.

There are character concerns, and "real" character concerns. Violence, and self destructive activities would warrant genuine reluctance on the part of NFL teams. IMO, the type of things we're hearing with Posey warrant awareness, but certainly not anywhere near the level that the breaking of actual laws would.
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Lets get one thing straight. I do not think only OSU and OSU players break the rules. So dont even bother arguing that. But I refuse to ignore rule breaking by someone just because others who have not been caught do it. I can only view a player with the information given to me. Regardless of who breaks the rules, I do think OSU needs to clean up their program. But thats another debate.

Lastly, I am not trying to force anyone to think he has 'character' concerns. I said that I view him as a player with 'character' flaws and that it surprised me because we usually dont draft players that have done something like this. If you want to view his actions as understandable then go ahead. I have already stated that some of us will view it differently.
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