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Old 04-29-2012   #181
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Top of my head 3 games 2 TDs, certainly didn't get rusty with that time off.
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Top of my head 3 games 2 TDs, certainly didn't get rusty with that time off.
I think had he played his Sr year in its entirety he would have been the 3rd WR off the board behind Blackmon and Floyd.


Heard a podcast a while ago discussing Posey with a reporter who covers Ohio St. saying that the second suspension should have been overturned as his lawyer proved the violations to be false. The NCAA held firm on the suspension .... We as Texans fans should thank them.

I dont have a link to that podcast - think it was on CBSsports.com if someone wants to search for it.


As for the original suspension .... selling his own property?! .....
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http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.s...evier_pos.html

Here is info on 2nd 5 game suspension.
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http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.s...evier_pos.html

Here is info on 2nd 5 game suspension.
Good find.


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Bobby DiGeronimo, the owner of Independence Excavating and an OSU booster now disassociated by the school, said previously that Posey was paid properly. James said phone records and credit card records showed Posey worked as claimed. He also said the NCAA rule that players couldn't be paid more than $15 an hour did not account for the higher union wages that Posey had to be paid while working alongside union employees.

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"I could try this case 100 times and 100 times I'd win it," James said. "The NCAA just ignored [the documentation]."
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I think had he played his Sr year in its entirety he would have been the 3rd WR off the board behind Blackmon and Floyd.


Heard a podcast a while ago discussing Posey with a reporter who covers Ohio St. saying that the second suspension should have been overturned as his lawyer proved the violations to be false. The NCAA held firm on the suspension .... We as Texans fans should thank them.

I dont have a link to that podcast - think it was on CBSsports.com if someone wants to search for it.


As for the original suspension .... selling his own property?! .....

When the Texans drafted JJ folks on this board had a hissy because they didn't take some guy from WSU who ran a good 40 . There was several other guys who I bet aren't in the league anymore that we were calling for . The Texans look for guys who are good route runners and not sprinters .


http://www.ourlads.com/nfl-combine-ratings/2012/
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exactly as i said, a couple of good seasons and then he got distracted. do you justify reggie bush or the OSU players we didnt draft or others with similar black marks? if you fail to resist temptation (and as reported are at best a "4 letter word" to your peers) in school, and cant behave for 12 months to get 10+ million dollars simply by being drafted ... what does that say about his priorities? a diva has his interests ahead of his team's ... what were posey's stats as a senior? now tell me those numbers again while "i'd do it again" plays in the background.
So, because he sold his own merchandise and got a discount on tattoos, he is a trouble maker? What else horrible has he done that you know of? Was it working out and helping the team while he was on his suspension? Was it working out with Cris Carter? Was it giving the money to his mom? The guy put up pretty good numbers in a running offense. The games he played his senior year, he played well. I'm getting a Victor Cruz vibe from him in the Texans offense.
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Those are his charges really

Come on now people, those are some of the most retarded charges i have ever heard of, and to think Ray Lewis was an accused murder at one time and some of you are sweating this crap ??? Get over it people you all act as if you have never done anything worse. I do worse things on a daily basis !!!!
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Not that he's worth a sh!t, but Kiper on Posey:

He's not a great value at No. 68 overall, but I'm intrigued by the DeVier Posey pick. He had to sit out so many games last year I don't think scouts saw enough of him. He has really good hands, can create some matchup problems, and might be a little underrated in his ability to stretch the field.
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from everything i've read and heard, i worry that GP is correct in saying that he is a combination of walter and jacoby ... in the wrong way. jacoby's head in walter's body. we all want to say "andre will be able to ...", but we forget that our legend hasnt made a dent on jacoby or anyone else. jacoby is actually the most developed receiver we've ever drafted, think about that. andre's not going to create a receiver ... horse to water (or miniature pony to a trough).
Let's think about that.

Jacoby has not had any off-field incidents last year, not that I know of & that's the knucklehead stuff that Andre's influence is supposed to help.

He makes some interesting decisions when it comes to returning punts. But hopefully we've got someone who can actually get on the field & take that duty from him.

Jacoby isn't a #2 reciever, Andre did his best, but it just isn't meant to be. However, he is a better receiver, much better receiver than he was when he got here.

Posey has already garnered the reputation of a hardworker, a team player, & a family man. All that other stuff will work itself out.
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If people on here are still complaining about this pick because of the suspensions, well, we'll agree to disagree (with you being wrong).
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If this kid had played the whole season, his numbers project to 52 catches, 702 yards, and 8-9 TDs. That's in-line with his production in previous years. And that's on an offense that was DEAD LAST in the Big-10 in passing yardage. They ended up with only 1489 passing yards all season.

When I looked at the video, I thought he looked kinda slow until I realized that he was moving past the DBs. I think he's one of those guys with deceptive speed.

This pick isn't the normal Houston Texan 4-year starter, Big Conference Captain. But I think this guy could turn into a very good player for us.

And I don't care about those suspensions. I mean, really? Guys get suspensions for drug use and DUI and doing stupid stuff. This guy gets a suspension for selling stuff for more than it was worth and for getting paid a union wage to work. Really?

I think we got a steal. But with WRs, it's a tough call. WRs bust almost as much as NTs do.
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If people on here are still complaining about this pick because of the suspensions, well, we'll agree to disagree (with you being wrong).
I guess we've appeased the Coog , Aggie , and Buckhorn fans this year .
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from everything i've read and heard, i worry that GP is correct in saying that he is a combination of walter and jacoby ... in the wrong way. jacoby's head in walter's body. we all want to say "andre will be able to ...", but we forget that our legend hasnt made a dent on jacoby or anyone else. jacoby is actually the most developed receiver we've ever drafted, think about that. andre's not going to create a receiver ... horse to water (or miniature pony to a trough).

from what i see on the field, he's a 4.5-4.6 with no on field "running away" from average CB's, so this 4.37 is a bleacher stopwatch (obviously). this is consistent with the inconsistent reports. "high points the ball - fails to high point the ball" ... "zero burst - great burst" ... these things reek of propping a player up. i see his numbers speaking to who he is. a pretty good couple of years and then disappears when he gets distracted or changes his priorities ... i smell a mediocre diva.

i hope i'm wrong because he could transform our offense with his potential.

edit: not sober when writing this lol.
Finally. Someone who isn't going to rah-rah this pick "just because."

I have zero expectation of the guy. Until he's a weekly CONSISTENT part of the offense, to me he's a late round WR whom Smith gambled on about three rounds too early.

The rest of our draft was so solid, so reasonable in its nature (picks fitting instead of feeling forced) that I don't care that much about Posey. Does fine, then I'm wrong. Does poorly, then I'm right BUT we also got a 4th rounder out of the deal. That's my happy place.
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from everything i've read and heard, i worry that GP is correct in saying that he is a combination of walter and jacoby ... in the wrong way. jacoby's head in walter's body. we all want to say "andre will be able to ...", but we forget that our legend hasnt made a dent on jacoby or anyone else. jacoby is actually the most developed receiver we've ever drafted, think about that. andre's not going to create a receiver ... horse to water (or miniature pony to a trough).

from what i see on the field, he's a 4.5-4.6 with no on field "running away" from average CB's, so this 4.37 is a bleacher stopwatch (obviously). this is consistent with the inconsistent reports. "high points the ball - fails to high point the ball" ... "zero burst - great burst" ... these things reek of propping a player up. i see his numbers speaking to who he is. a pretty good couple of years and then disappears when he gets distracted or changes his priorities ... i smell a mediocre diva.

i hope i'm wrong because he could transform our offense with his potential.

edit: not sober when writing this lol.
I'm curious how does still attending every practice when you know there is no chance of playing and at the same time finishing off your degree equate into having a "Jacoby" like head?

To me it shows character, committment to team and a desire to always be improving.
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This is the typical 'he didn't go to us or anyone near us in any of the major mock drafts' disappointment. People need to get over it. Saying he's a combination of Jacoby and Walter without seeing him play a down for the Texans is just absurd. And don't get me started on 'third round value'. It's not like we whiffed on a top ten first round pick.

None of the guys people wanted instead are sure things either. If anything we got two guys (Posey and Crick) that probably would have gone much higher if it wasn't for bad senior seasons (one for a non-drug/violence related suspension and the other for injury). I think that's something to be excited about until on the field performance proves otherwise.
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Other than the first two-four receivers off the board, the rest were a crapshoot in their order.

None of the "talking heads" expected Posey to go this high, and I'd wager the majority of NFL teams had significant variability in his ranking as well.

After the "can't miss" guys, success and predictability begins to depend on some very specific player-team combinations.
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If this kid had played the whole season, his numbers project to 52 catches, 702 yards, and 8-9 TDs. That's in-line with his production in previous years. And that's on an offense that was DEAD LAST in the Big-10 in passing yardage. They ended up with only 1489 passing yards all season.

When I looked at the video, I thought he looked kinda slow until I realized that he was moving past the DBs. I think he's one of those guys with deceptive speed.

This pick isn't the normal Houston Texan 4-year starter, Big Conference Captain. But I think this guy could turn into a very good player for us.

And I don't care about those suspensions. I mean, really? Guys get suspensions for drug use and DUI and doing stupid stuff. This guy gets a suspension for selling stuff for more than it was worth and for getting paid a union wage to work. Really?

I think we got a steal. But with WRs, it's a tough call. WRs bust almost as much as NTs do.
He has Victor Cruz written all over him.
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Yeah its weird cause Quin, McCain, Nolan all suck and were high round whiffs.
1 good S, 1 decent backup S, a nickle CB.

I wouldn't say Rick has done a good job of picking CB's.

Afterall he did give us the most pro ready CB in the daft. (KJ's great)

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I was reading some Browns forums, and several people were upset that the Browns traded back from 67 to 87 and picked up 120. The reason being that the Texans took Posey at 68. He's an Ohio guy, and people always like to get local players, but the big complaint was that he was seriously underrated due to the suspension. I'm hoping Kubiak is right about this kid, he may become our #2.
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