Draft day 2. Who do you want?

[Vinny]

Originally Posted by Corrosion

I've been out-guru'd

[BrwnsTown]

Originally Posted by Corrosion

Posey is not bad, especially since you have one of the best wideouts in the game already. No major off the field problems except for the stupid tattoo and selling memorabilia.

Not blazing fast but quick, and if you nap on him he will slip deep...

[Pantherstang84]

Originally Posted by CretorFrigg

DeVier Posey...

Do you guys think Rick Smith traded down thinking he could get Randle, then was surprised the Giants took him, leaving us with DeVier Posey?

Once they traded down, I knew they lost Randle. Someone ahead of them was going to pick him up.

[VTexan]

McNutt still available? Broyles went a lot earlier than I anticipated.

[Carr Bombed]

This kid says he's ALWAYS wanted to be a Texan... He even entered a contest when he was a kid.

This might work out... Is he a local product of something. There aren't too many Texan fans outside of Houston

[tvaughan]

Originally Posted by BrwnsTown

Posey is not bad, especially since you have one of the best wideouts in the game already. No major off the field problems except for the stupid tattoo and selling memorabilia.

Not blazing fast but quick, and if you nap on him he will slip deep...

That stuff cost him 10 games. That's no small thing.

I haven't seem any analysis that has him ranked as highly as the Texans took him.

Hopefully they know something.

[Carr Bombed]

I'm liking what I'm hearing so far... Says "Sir", sounds very humble and says he sold his ring in order to get his mom's lights turned back on... Says if he had to, he'd do it again, because at the time the money really helped his family.

[CloakNNNdagger]

The Texans have just traded their five 3rd and 4th round picks for ten 6th round picks, a 2014 7th round pick, and an autographed Justin Blackmon jersey.

[CretorFrigg]

Originally Posted by Pantherstang84

Once they traded down, I knew they lost Randle. Someone ahead of them was going to pick him up.

Yeah, it's just a hypothesis. We will never know what goes on in the draft room.

[tvaughan]

Originally Posted by Carr Bombed

I'm liking what I'm hearing so far... Says "Sir", sounds very humble and says he sold his ring in order to get his mom's lights turned back on... Says if he had to he'd do it again, because at the time the money really helped his family.

That certainly puts it in a different light. I wonder why they were so harsh on him. Maybe because it was OSU and they had to show zero tolerance?

[Carr Bombed]

Oh he's from St Clair catholic school in Florida.. Was a huge Andre Johnson fan and became a Texans' fan when they drafted Andre Johnson.

I'm sold.

This kid sounds humble and he's going to be in Andre's hip pocket. Houston is the team he always wanted to play for and now he is.. how cool is that? This could be a great story.

[BrwnsTown]

Originally Posted by tvaughan

That stuff cost him 10 games. That's no small thing.

I haven't seem any analysis that has him ranked as highly as the Texans took him.

Hopefully they know something.

It was a stupid a rule to break, but why you get in trouble for selling something that is yours is just silly.

Be glad you didn't draft Adams he is a pot head, glad the steelers grabbed him, hopefully he is all stoned every time my Browns play them.

But as far as Posey goes, he can catch, and block. And one on one he will do fine with Johnson drawing the doubles.

[sakebomb]

Originally Posted by BrwnsTown

But as far as Posey goes, he can catch, and block. And one on one he will do fine with Johnson drawing the doubles.

This sounds good to me. He's got "catch" down so that puts him in front of Jones on the depth chart.

[CloakNNNdagger]

Here's the background story on Posey for anyone interested.

DeVier Posey, three others suspendedUpdated: October 7, 2011, 10:32 PM ET
Associated Press

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- The NCAA suspended Ohio State wide receiver DeVier Posey for five more games Friday -- leaving him with only two regular-season games in his senior season -- and three other Buckeyes for one game for taking too much money for a summer job.

Posey's attorney said he was incensed at the penalty. In response, the NCAA called Columbus lawyer Larry James' contentions "patently false."

Offensive lineman Marcus Hall, defensive lineman Melvin Fellows and last year's leading rusher, Dan Herron, will miss this week's game at No. 14 Nebraska on Saturday. They also must repay benefits after receiving pay for work not performed from booster Bobby DiGeronimo, who has been banned from any further contact with Ohio State athletes.

Posey, already forced to sit out the first five games, will not return until Ohio State's home game against Penn State on Nov. 19. He will be able to play against the Nittany Lions and also the following week, the annual matchup with archrival Michigan that concludes the regular season.

"I am extremely disappointed with the NCAA's decision regarding Devier Posey," Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith said in a statement. "This penalty is harsh considering the nature of the violation and the five-game suspension already served by this student-athlete."

James, Posey's attorney, was angry at the severity of the penalty.

"I've been doing this for 30 years and I have not had anything that I think has incensed me more," James said.

According to the NCAA, Posey was overpaid $728. Herron and Fellows both accepted approximately $290 in excess pay while Hall received $230 in overpayment.

Posey and Herron already had been suspended five games for accepting cash and tattoos from a Columbus tattoo-parlor owner.

All but Posey will be available to play at Illinois a week from Saturday, although Fellows is out with a medical issue.

In its decision, the NCAA noted the overpayment occurred over an extended period of time.

James said he had records which proved that the players worked and were not substantially overpaid.

"My hard evidence and common sense and logic from 30-plus years of practice tells me (the NCAA's decision) is not supported by sound, reliable information and documentation," he said. "We were able to document that all these players had worked the hours that they had said. Even if we were to concede where there might be holes, less than five hours are in dispute. That takes them under 100 bucks. In DeVier Posey's situation, (the NCAA) just absolutely disregarded evidence that any person with common sense would accept. Why they did it, I do not know."


The NCAA lashed out in response to James' contentions.

"These statements are patently false," NCAA spokeswoman Stacey Osburn said. "To ensure a fair process for the involved student-athlete, each reinstatement decision is determined based on its own merits. The staff carefully reviews all information that the university puts forward during the reinstatement process. Posey's (suspension) is based on his own actions and responsibility for the violation."

Herron, Posey, left tackle Mike Adams and defensive end Solomon Thomas, along with star quarterback Terrelle Pryor and Dorian Bell, were suspended last December for the first five games this fall. Bell has since transferred to Duquesne.

All were found to have received cash and free or discounted tattoos from Edward Rife, who has pleaded guilty to federal charges of money laundering and drug trafficking unrelated to the Ohio State case and is awaiting sentencing.

Herron, Posey, Adams and Thomas were originally set to rejoin the team this week. Adams and Thomas have been cleared to play against Nebraska.

When Ohio State went before the NCAA's committee on infractions on Aug. 12, the major issue was the players who took improper benefits from Rife and the actions (or inaction) of then-Ohio State coach Jim Tressel. Tressel, the Buckeyes' successful coach for 10 years, was forced to resign because he did not tell his superiors when he found out about possible violations. He used ineligible players throughout the 2010 season.

Soon after Tressel was pushed out, Pryor left school a year early to jump to the NFL and is now a member of the Oakland Raiders, although is suspended by the NFL due to his problems at Ohio State and his unconventional route to the league.

James thinks the NCAA was harder on Posey because of his friendship with Pryor, who was at the center of several areas of investigation when he announced he was leaving Ohio State.

"My hunch is for some reason they have discredited him because he was close to Terrelle," James said. "I think that's what it is. As a result of that, they don't want to believe anything that we put forward. But I can't prove that."

DiGeronimo helped run an annual charity event which led to three other players being suspended for the first two games this season.

Ohio State is awaiting the NCAA's report of sanctions for the Tressel/tattoo violations. Smith said this week he expected the NCAA to announce final penalties late this year, perhaps in December.

The university has offered penalties including vacating the 2010 season's 12-1 record, returning bowl payments totaling almost $339,000 from last season, and accepting a two-year NCAA probation. The NCAA could add to those penalties based on all of the subsequent violations and suspensions.

The NCAA also determined Posey accepted approximately $100 in golf fees from another individual, which it called "a preferential treatment violation."

[Corrosion]

Originally Posted by sakebomb

This sounds good to me. He's got "catch" down so that puts him in front of Jones on the depth chart.

When I saw him work out , he caught everything .... even when the ball was off target ,if he could get a hand on it , he brought it in.

[CloakNNNdagger]

NFL.com had this to say.

Overview

Posey is a savvy route runner who has overcome various obstacles during his time at Ohio State. He is athletic and understands how to run routes and get open. He can be counted on to secure the catch when he is not draped by a defender. Though suspended on two separate occasions for his role in NCAA violations involving boosters, Posey showed in his short opportunity during his senior year why he has third-round value in this year's draft.

Analysis

Strengths

Posey can struggle off the line but understands, for the most part, how to stem his routes to set up a defender and then use his suddenness to change directions. He can burst and stick his foot in the ground at the top of routes to gain separation. Except when going across the middle and facing a big hit, he is superb at adjusting his body once the ball is thrown to secure the catch. He is effective after the catch with the ball in his hands and can make a small move to get up field. He is a very polished as a route runner and overall receiver.

Weaknesses

Posey will get caught peeking at incoming safeties when going across the middle. He shows toughness when blocking, but not here. He sometimes will seem uninvolved in the physical aspect of the game or when the ball and play are not coming toward him.

Evidently great route runner. But this is what caught my eye......I hope not another JJ (in this respect) without the speed.