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Old 04-29-2012   #81
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I meant more along the line of our defense is going to have a harder time maintaining #2 in Defense this year again when the Colts (might) have a QB and most teams have more offensive threats.
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I meant more along the line of our defense is going to have a harder time maintaining #2 in Defense this year again when the Colts (might) have a QB and most teams have more offensive threats.
I see what you're saying, I was just having fun with your choice of words. I think our only weak spot is CB after Joseph, so I'm still not too worried. Preseason and the first few games could change that, but I'll wait and see.
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Sorry im still on edge from the political side of the forums, totally agree with you though.
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Kenny Britt has potential, but do you really think Kendall Wright is a "big time" WR?
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Sorry im still on edge from the political side of the forums, totally agree with you though.
No problem, I had to ban myself from those areas. It's too easy to get myself riled up.
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Kenny Britt has potential, but do you really think Kendall Wright is a "big time" WR?
He makes things happen after the catch, and he adjusts very well to deep balls while they're in the air. He made RG3 look better than even he was on a few throws I saw last season because of his ability to adjust and go get it.

He was a consistent producer, even when RG3 missed most of one season a few years ago, and he consistently improved throughout his career.

As for big time, he's not going to be elite like Andre, but he could potentially be well above your average guy. We'll have to see how he transitions.
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I meant more along the line of our defense is going to have a harder time maintaining #2 in Defense this year again when the Colts (might) have a QB and most teams have more offensive threats.
Not even Peyton Manning came into the league on fire. I'm not worried about Andrew Luck. You've got your Cam Newtons, Dante Culpeppers, & Donovan McNabbs who appear to have "instant" success, but those guys usually have guys like Randy Moss & Steve Smith to help them out.


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Not even Peyton Manning came into the league on fire. I'm not worried about Andrew Luck. You've got your Cam Newtons, Dante Culpeppers, & Donovan McNabbs who appear to have "instant" success, but those guys usually have guys like Randy Moss & Steve Smith to help them out.


Andrew Luck doesn't.
Reggie Wayne isn't exactly chopped liver...
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Reggie Wayne isn't exactly chopped liver...
No he's not chopped liver, but he is about 67 years old.
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Reggie Wayne isn't exactly chopped liver...
More like a TV dinner Salisbury Steak.
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Not even Peyton Manning came into the league on fire. I'm not worried about Andrew Luck. You've got your Cam Newtons, Dante Culpeppers, & Donovan McNabbs who appear to have "instant" success, but those guys usually have guys like Randy Moss & Steve Smith to help them out.


Andrew Luck doesn't.
Steve Smith was thought to be washed up since he had basically put up pedestrian numbers in the last few years of the Fox regime. Cam Newton's success in Carolina during his rookie year was nothing short of amazing and easily the best rookie QB performance you, I, or anybody else who has been watching the NFL has seen, like ever. You can't really lump that guy in with anybody else as far as discussing singular rookie success. And remember, Carolina was an absolute dumpster fire the year before.

Really my point is, Luck could surprise just like Newton did his rookie year (albeit, I find it extremely hard to believe he'd have nearly as many rushing TD's), and Wayne is as decent of a target as Smith. I don't think the Colts offense will be bad, per se, I think that defense is what's going to undo Luck for the next couple of years.
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Steve Smith was thought to be washed up since he had basically put up pedestrian numbers in the last few years of the Fox regime. Cam Newton's success in Carolina during his rookie year was nothing short of amazing and easily the best rookie QB performance you, I, or anybody else who has been watching the NFL has seen, like ever. You can't really lump that guy in with anybody else as far as discussing singular rookie success. And remember, Carolina was an absolute dumpster fire the year before.

Really my point is, Luck could surprise just like Newton did his rookie year (albeit, I find it extremely hard to believe he'd have nearly as many rushing TD's), and Wayne is as decent of a target as Smith. I don't think the Colts offense will be bad, per se, I think that defense is what's going to undo Luck for the next couple of years.

The fact that we don't play Luck until the end of the season gives even more credence to what you're saying...

Theoretically he should have improved by that time...
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The fact that we don't play Luck until the end of the season gives even more credence to what you're saying...

Theoretically he should have improved by that time...
Wade's going to figure out how to get to him by then.
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Steve Smith was thought to be washed up since he had basically put up pedestrian numbers in the last few years of the Fox regime. Cam Newton's success in Carolina during his rookie year was nothing short of amazing and easily the best rookie QB performance you, I, or anybody else who has been watching the NFL has seen, like ever. You can't really lump that guy in with anybody else as far as discussing singular rookie success. And remember, Carolina was an absolute dumpster fire the year before.

Really my point is, Luck could surprise just like Newton did his rookie year (albeit, I find it extremely hard to believe he'd have nearly as many rushing TD's), and Wayne is as decent of a target as Smith. I don't think the Colts offense will be bad, per se, I think that defense is what's going to undo Luck for the next couple of years.
Wont HWWNBM's "invisible offensive line" be blocking for Luck next year ?!
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This. If Allen was so much better than KJ to command that level of FA $$$, do you honestly believe that Wade would let him go and keep KJ?

Not to mention, if Allen was that good, why couldn't he keep KJ on the bench and take all the snaps?

Never take the $$$ amount of a FA contract to effectively represent the talent of the player. Teams overpay for their needs all the time.
If the Bengals were only given a choice of KJ or Allen, which one do you think they would pick?

Let's pretend that KJ was a free agent just like Allen was this year. Do you genuinely think the Bengals would invest the money into KJ instead of Allen?

No way would they spend the same cash on KJ. Plus, they had to do something because they let Joseph go the year before. Allen represented the best bang for the buck with what was out there.
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Aren't the Bengals playing Allen at Safety? They have Leon Hall, Nate Clements, Terence Newman, Pac-man, and just picked a CB in the first round. That's a lot of CBs fighting for playing time. I can't imagine they give Allen the contract they did and not give him a significant role, and it looks like he'd be more prominent at safety.
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Our two division rivals did what to stop



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Aren't the Bengals playing Allen at Safety? They have Leon Hall, Nate Clements, Terence Newman, Pac-man, and just picked a CB in the first round.
The Bengals cut Clements last week.
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The Bengals cut Clements last week.
I couldn't find any confirmation on this.
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