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Old 05-14-2005   #41
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Well.... considering they havent seen him play since 2003 I doubt it.
All the more reason to think he has...
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Texans | Harrison Released - from www.KFFL.com
Fri, 13 May 2005 15:28:17 -0700

The Associated Press reports the Houston Texans have released LB Tyreo Harrison. He was signed by the team January 19.

With Harrison released, that leaves a roster spot open...I bet we're about to make a big run at Boulware...

How's that for overreacting?
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I don't know about picking him up, his production has been slipping the last couple of years and picking him up will stunt the development of our younger players.
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where would PB play if he was a starter??? do u really think the texans are willing to replace wong, much less, greenwood, who was signed to a bg deal???
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Wong and Greenwood are both going to be ILBs, Boulware is an OLB...If we were to sign him, he'd most likely take the ROLB job away from Peek...
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Wong and Greenwood are both going to be ILBs, Boulware is an OLB...If we were to sign him, he'd most likely take the ROLB job away from Peek...
If you look at Capers history he likes to have a lot of really good LB that he platoons and brings at the quaterback from all angles. The addtion of another LB is a good thing. Look this will be the first year that most of you have seen Capers system. He will be bringing the LB in blitz from all angles. You need extra LB when you do this they can get tired fast.
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The Redskins signed Warrick Holdman, the Bears are meeting with Anthony Simmons, and the Packers stated that Boulware is unlikely to go to Green Bay so there is three teams I definately don't see getting him.
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If it's ready to go, then Boulware is an upgrade over Peek. He averaged nearly 10 sacks a game from '97-'03 & plays the run much better than Peek.
Bring him on! If he's even half the player he was before getting injured then that's what? 80 sacks he's going to get us?

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If it's ready to go, then Boulware is an upgrade over Peek. He averaged nearly 10 sacks a game from '97-'03 & plays the run much better than Peek.
That was a little too optimistic. At least I know someone reads my posts.
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Easy guys, I'm sure he meant 10 sacks a season. Derrick Thomas has been dead for quite some time now, I wonder if he would have been considered more successfull that L.T. had he played longer??
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I think the question regarding Boulware is the status of his knee injury. If it's ready to go, then Boulware is an upgrade over Peek. He averaged nearly 10 sacks a game from '97-'03 & plays the run much better than Peek. There's really no comparision, one guy has done it, one guy hasn't. If the knee is not ready to go full tilt, don't bring Boulware in. Peek or bust.

As Texan fans, we tend to overvalue the players on our roster. Nowhere else will you see fans consider a healthy Peter Boulware having to compete for a job against a Peek type player. Of course if Boulware's knee is healthy, he'll want to get paid accordingly. Other teams will be interested & he won't come cheap. My guess would be that Boulware will get a better offer from Cleveland (they need good pub) or Seattle.
As nfl fans, we tend to overvalue a players name and the past success he has had. I'm telling yall Boulware would be a horrible horrible signing. I live near dallas so I have the pleasure ( :brickwall curse) in listening in to all their offseason moves. The dallas cowboys are switching to the 3-4 this season and they have undersized lbs and are going to be going into camp with needs at that position and they don't even want to touch this guy and the rumors around the league are he has bad knees. I'm not saying Boulware can't be productive if put in the right role, but he has already stated that he wants to be a starter and wants to be paid like one. If yall are frustrated with the G. Walker contract, lets see how upset people get if we sign a 31 year old who hasn't played in a year comming off major knee surgery and toe injuries (yall have seen what toe injuries has done to G. Walker). Agian Boulware is 31, its not like a 25 or 26 year old comming off a knee injury at his age it takes alot longer to heal and he might not be anything like the player yall remember.The last thing we need to do is start signing names ala Hugh Douglas, Marceles Wiley, Warren Sapp, Emmit Smith, Eddie G., and so on and so on, if yall want me to go on I will. Boulware, sounds great, gets fans all excited and brings high expectations, but = BAD SIGNING, especialy at the deal he wants. Everybody praises the job New Englands front office has done during their Superbowl runs and how many Big Name signing did they make. Sometimes its best not to sign a Big name, especially one whos 31, hasn't played in a year and is comming off a MAJOR knee injury. Sometimes its best to give a player an opportunity to make a name for himself, ala Peek and the other quality young players we have on this team, they have alot more upside and are ALOT cheaper.
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hmm is our whole Defense gonna consist of nothing but LBs this year or something ?
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I don't think anyone here wants Boulware if the team doesn't check out his knees and find them in good health. Furthermore, nobody is suggesting that we sign him to an 8 million dollar signing bonus and a 5 year contract.

Regardless of what he wants, a competitive bid for a healthy Boulware that is structured in a cap-friendly way for probably two years, would be a good thing for this team to do. Boulware is not unlike Wong in that he could play 3 positions for this defense. He could play one of the ILB positions or either of the OLB positions... He would provide us great depth, whether he was starting or not.
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I don't think anyone here wants Boulware if the team doesn't check out his knees and find them in good health. Furthermore, nobody is suggesting that we sign him to an 8 million dollar signing bonus and a 5 year contract.

Regardless of what he wants, a competitive bid for a healthy Boulware that is structured in a cap-friendly way for probably two years, would be a good thing for this team to do. Boulware is not unlike Wong in that he could play 3 positions for this defense. He could play one of the ILB positions or either of the OLB positions... He would provide us great depth, whether he was starting or not.
Well I guess we don't have to worry about signing Boulware, since he doesn't want to take a short term back up role for the league min. If this team wants to go out and sign a FA splash. do so on the OL or the WR posistion, the last thing we need is a aging LB with rebuilt knees and wheels. Look I'm not trying to be hard on Boulware, but I've seen this story to many times and if yall forget yall are Texan fans for a sec., yall would realize this is not a good signing. Boulware is 31 , comming off a major knee injury and other foot problems and didn't play last year, at his age it is wishful thinking that he is going to be able to return to anything we once was. Believe me I hate to be the voice of reason here, but if any of our divisional rivals were to pull this deal off we would be hounding them.

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...Boulware is 31 , comming off a major knee injury and other foot problems and didn't play last year, at his age it is wishful thinking that he is going to be able to return to anything we once was. Believe me I hate to be the voice of reason here, but if any of our divisional rivals were to pull this deal off we would be hounding them.
dalemurphy pretty much hit on my points. No one is suggesting signing Boulware unless his knee checks out. And if his knee does check out, why couldn't Boulware play at a level approaching his previous seasons? Jason Taylor & Simeon Rice are still getting to the QB, and they're the same age as Boulware. Don't tell me you wouldn't want the Texans to consider those guys. Or do they also pale in comparison to Antwan Peek?

Not that it matters, but Peter Boulware's birthday is 12/18/74. Which would make him 30 years of age until Week 15 of the '05 season. So if you're going to repeatedly post his age, you may as well get it right. FWIW, Boulware says he's healthy & has a couple of more good years left. I think Casserly would be derelict in his duty as GM if he didn't bring Boulware in for a physical & gauge his interest in joining the team. Here are some reasonable facts that are undeniable: Peter Boulware has 67.5 career sacks. Antwan Peek has 3 career sacks. I don't think I'd "hound" any team that was wise enough to sign Boulware.
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Peter Boulware has 67.5 career sacks. Antwan Peek has 3 career sacks. I don't think I'd "hound" any team that was wise enough to sign Boulware.
of course hes going to have more sacks hes been playing longer and has been a starter to of which peek hasnt been. IMHO i would much rather have peek then someone we'd sign and he'd play maybe 1 or 2 more years with us. I think ur facts are skewed if your goin to compare peek and Boulware.
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of course hes going to have more sacks hes been playing longer and has been a starter to of which peek hasnt been. IMHO i would much rather have peek then someone we'd sign and he'd play maybe 1 or 2 more years with us. I think ur facts are skewed if your goin to compare peek and Boulware.
I guess comparing Boulware to any reserve LB in the league is absurd. The reserve LB might be as good as a 4-time Pro Bowler if just given the chance. Do I really know that Dave Ragone isn't as good as Daunte Culpepper? The facts are "skewed" in Culpepper's favor, so I can't really compare the two.

Another "skewed" fact: Peek is in the last year of his contract. Do we really know how much longer he'll be around?
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.......Get Boulware, heck of a player, Peek leaves and goes to indy or Jax and becomes the next Boulware.
Or dont pick up Boulware and let Peek show us what he can do.I am a BIG PEEK FAN, hope he gets is chance HERE! I am glad Iam not making this decision.

Signing Boulware has nothing to do with what happens with Peek. Peek won't be going anywhere for two years. Whether he plays much or sits on the bench, he'll go where he's offered the most money. If he doesn't play, do you really think teams are going to be throwing $20 million dollar contracts at him?
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I agree...Boulware was the FOURTH overall pick in the 1977 draft. Peek is not that kind of prospect.

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lets just keep on getting people so we can have the best off all positions, we need it so we can have the best chance to win
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